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Why doesn't the RNC evict Trump from the GOP?

Irrelevant. Popular vote is a close enough approximation of the Electoral College: 91% of elections have had agreement between the popular vote and the outcome.

Point of information regarding the bolded. NO it is not! Hillary allegedly won the popular vote in 2016. Trump got more electors.


Or you could pretend that Republicans won 2020 and made massive gains in 2022, but somehow "the system" robbed them.

The argument is not necessarily the vote in 2022 (although I will continue to have personal views on the last-minute changes allowing for poorly controlled mass-mail voting).

The issue is with what led to so many people voting for "Basement Biden" who hardly campaigned, and the few times he did he drew ridiculously small crowds.

It was the mass propaganda and misinformation campaign waged in Media/social media, and online information sources like Google, Wikipedia, and other "search engines."

You should at least admit that without the Republican Party, Trump would never have got anywhere near the White House.

Silly argument. There are only two major Parties in the USA.

Your point is like saying "If not for the Democrat Party, Biden would never have got anywhere near the White House."
 
Be careful there is stating facts means you're wrong. Or at least that's what I've got my to believe by this poster.
 
Strangely enough, it would be maybe even more correct to say that, if not for the Republican Party, Biden would not have become president.
 
Seriously, at this point it appears that the GOP is standing back as Traitor Trump destroys himself.

Might be the smartest thing the party has done in the last 6+ years.
 

91% is a "reasonable approximation" by any definition of "reasonable" or of "approximation"

If we were talking about the Senate, then yes you could say the outcome does not approximate the popular vote.


Massive rallies worked for Hitler, but we have mass media now. All that's necessary is a camera.

That was the mass propaganda and misinformation campaign wages in Media/social media, online information sources like Google, Wikipedia, and other "search engines."

Blame the People for trusting those sources, then. Unless you'd like to turn on Republicans and claim that corporations DON'T have freedom of speech?

Silly argument. There are only two major Parties in the USA.

Your point is like saying "If not for the Democrat Party, Biden would never have got anywhere near the White House."

Absolutely. Even Teddy Roosevelt failed, without a major party.

The point I was trying to make is that Trump supporters SHOULD have loyalty to the party which put their guy in power. But seemingly they don't (at least in CLAX's case) and that's despite Trumpists being a majority of the party now.

Not even a shred of loyalty for McConnell, who got them a Supreme Court Justice (if not two). On our side, we know he's the enemy, and despite his age there's a very real chance he'll be back. Unlike that clumsy criminal Trump.
 
91% is a "reasonable approximation" by any definition of "reasonable" or of "approximation"

No, it is not! The Founding Fathers originally set up the Electoral College to prevent a direct election of a President by popular vote.

In fact, originally it was up to the States to decide how Electors would be selected. Some went with voting others by simple selection of the State Legislatures.

If we were talking about the Senate, then yes you could say the outcome does not approximate the popular vote.

Non sequitur.

Blame the People for trusting those sources, then. Unless you'd like to turn on Republicans and claim that corporations DON'T have freedom of speech?

People in the USA "trust those sources" because they presume that they are honestly reporting the news. This despite the history of "yellow journalism" our society has been subject to. IMO it was the Vietnam Era with anchors like Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow (CBS), David Brinkly (NBC and ABC), Chet Huntley NBC, etc.

We don't really have people like these today.

...The point I was trying to make is that Trump supporters SHOULD have loyalty to the party which put their guy in power. But seemingly they don't (at least in CLAX's case) and that's despite Trumpists being a majority of the party now.

Those you call "Trumpists" are not all Republican. They are made up variously of Republicans, disaffected Democrats, and Independents.

Not even a shred of loyalty for McConnell, who got them a Supreme Court Justice (if not two). On our side, we know he's the enemy, and despite his age there's a very real chance he'll be back. Unlike that clumsy criminal Trump.

They are not "loyal" due to Party affiliation (as pointed out above.) They are supportive for all sorts of reasons, but most actually believe in American Exceptionalism, and the ideals of individual liberty, equal opportunity, equal justice, and fair play.
 
No, it is not! The Founding Fathers originally set up the Electoral College to prevent a direct election of a President by popular vote.

What they "orgininally" meant is actually disputable. They didn't all agree on the Electoral College, but came around to it because some States wouldn't sign up otherwise. American politics started BEFORE the Constitution, and this State powers nonsense corrupted the Constitution from the start.

In fact, originally it was up to the States to decide how Electors would be selected. Some went with voting others by simple selection of the State Legislatures.

Further evidence that original intent does not matter. The States themselves gave up that power.

Non sequitur.

Not at all. The Senate does not even approximate the national popular vote. And that's by design (it's the States' House). I mentioned that by contrast to the Electoral College which DOES approximate the national popular vote. 91% of the time: that's a "reasonable approximation" to anyone who is being reasonable.


I don't remember them, however I know Walter Cronkite stated his opposition to the Vietnam War when he was supposed to be presenting the news. Perhaps your idea of press neutrality is a bit nostaligic.

Not to mention that most newspapers explicitly endorse candidates, and have done so for living memory.

Those you call "Trumpists" are not all Republican. They are made up variously of Republicans, disaffected Democrats, and Independents.

Again, you're challenging a generalization without the necessary qualification that it's mostly right. Most Trumpists are Republican voters; I can't believe you're trying to obfuscate that.


Trumpists do not believe in equal justice. They believe in Presidential Exceptionalism.

"Equal opportunity" means very different things to Republicans and to Democrats. I find the Democrat version more authentic, because they recognize that opportunity begins at birth ... not at age 18.

And American Exceptionalism has a really bad history of being used by blowhard patriots to excuse the US ranking quite badly in things like secondary education outcomes, crime, or democracy. And now apparently, quality of the news media. Perhaps I'm wrong about what YOU mean by Exceptionalism ...
 
Because he says exactly and specifically what the vile base wants to hear (hating the correct people).
 

There are moderate Republicans who avoid watching or reading news and they vote. They forgot about trump and it bugs them he is back.
There's a wide swath of other republican voters who don't like him anymore but they would vote for him anyway. His approval rating wanes with every post on his beloved truth social. When he sinks below 30% nationally he can't win. Give him enough rope and he'll hang himself.
 
No, it was years of watching president Trump try to dismantle the Affordable Care Act. It was months of watching Trump mismanage covid. It was an impeachment that showed Trump tried to extort a foreign country for his own political purposes. It was Trump calling racists "very fine people." It watching cabinet-level staff leave on almost a weekly basis. It was watching Trump pardon criminals because they were loyal to him. It was watching Trump kiss the ass of Putin at every turn. It was his incessant golfing.

It was his total lack of empathy or compassion for people who were suffering, whether it was a war widow, or people displaced by wildfires or hurricanes, or dying from covid and their corpses being stored in refrigerator trucks. It was his constant lying about everything from the size of his inauguration crowd to the amount of legislation he was responsible for to whether Alabama was at risk because of a hurricane to when he was going to release his tax returns. We could not believe a word that came out of his mouth.

The American people had had enough of Trump and his buffoonery, his schoolyard bully taunts. There has never been a person less qualified or prepared to be president. There has never been anyone less willing to grow into the job than Trump. Every time any media outlet published anything critical of Trump it was "Fake News" this and "Fake News" that. He was an international joke. he actually got laughed at by the entire general assembly of the UN because of some ridiculous claim he made. Trump was a huge mistake.

That is why America voted for Biden.
 
Read about the uptick in anti-Semitic posts on social media. This does matter to left and right, as my posts pointed out.
 
No, it was years of watching president Trump try to dismantle the Affordable Care Act.

I didn't support the affordable care act as IMO we already have too damn many "social welfare programs" to pay for. So there we differ.

It was months of watching Trump mismanage covid.

Trump did not "mismanage Covid." He was guided by his so-called "medical advisors" like Dr. Fauci, and others, who have been subsequently shown to have lied, obfuscated, deceived America, while also "mismanaging" the process.

IMO Trump was right on the money when he fought against "closing the country," and strove to keep things open and running. To focus on finding out who was actually "most at risk" and in need of care, while letting the rest of us go about our lives and businesses. This has subsequently proven to be the best course wherever in was done at the State level.

Moreover, HE was responsible for "warp speed" in developing vaccines and treatments. This so that those at actual most risk could be treated. Hell, the issues raised by your side of the point have since been shown to be fearmongering.


LOL! The real extortion occurred when Biden was VP, and his SON was on the Ukrainian company Burisma's "Board of Directors" facing investigation by that "corrupt prosecutor." To cite Mr. Biden himself "I told them to get rid of that guy or no 'Billion Dollars" and they had six hours to do so. Damned if they did so!" I wonder why anyone in the USA thought getting rid of that prosecutor would be a matter of national interest...as opposed to actual American interference?


Blah, Blah, Blah. Emotional appeal denied. It was the MSM and Social Media lapdogs of the DNC who painted Trump as "uncaring." He was "bragging" not "lying." You need to really study your "Trump history." The man has always sold himself as "bigger, better, the greatest ever." That's his business schtick.


Nope. The "American people" were lied to constantly about everything, from "Russia collusion," through "Ukraine extortion," and on and on.

Trump was a huge mistake.

Nope again, as IMO he was a breath of fresh air needed in a government that has been getting too big, to corrupt, and too damn intrusive in American lives.

That is why America voted for Biden.

IMO most of those Americans voted for Biden because of all the above combined with treachery from within his Administration, and poison pen propaganda posing as reporting in the MSM....plus "collusion" in the above via Twitter, Facebook, Google, and so on. The "machine" that lies and lies and lies and people like you simply accept them as truth.

Trump was and is no "angel." But he sure as "hell" is not the "Devil" you think he is.
 
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Who cares what clowns say on social media?
You should, we all should...

 
The users care.
Stop caring so much. Don't you see that's the attention they want?
If Twitter's new policy is to allow anti-semitic trolling, it will destroy their business.
So why did they allow ISIS accounts for so long? That didn't hurt their business nether did the child pornography.

Nobody complained about that.
 
Stop caring so much. Don't you see that's the attention they want?

So why did they allow ISIS accounts for so long? That didn't hurt their business nether did the child pornography.

Nobody complained about that.

It's not just your right, but your duty, to report content which promotes illegal activity.

But I'm sure you don't see it that way. To you, all speech is worth what you paid for it: ie, nothing.
 
I don't think they can. There's no process for it. Anyone can join a party for any reason.
 
I don't think they can. There's no process for it. Anyone can join a party for any reason.

That's true for the two major parties, but only because (in most states) voters can register as that party. This gives them de facto membership. Though possibly that doesn't apply to persons prohibited to vote.

Here's an example of an elected Republican expelled from the Republican caucus: Wikipedia. I acknowledge that it's not the same as being expelled from the party.

Another consideration is whether minor parties can expel a member. They're more likely to use a membership list, for voting or even attendance at their meetings.
 
It's not just your right, but your duty, to report content which promotes illegal activity.
Well it's not illegal to be a jerk.
But I'm sure you don't see it that way. To you, all speech is worth what you paid for it: ie, nothing.
I don't participate on Twitter people like you are there and I get enough of you here.
 
I don't think they can. There's no process for it. Anyone can join a party for any reason.
They can do things like pass resolutions and they could have voted to convict on impeachment twice. They voted Liz Cheney out of her state party.
 
Well it's not illegal to be a jerk.

I don't participate on Twitter people like you are there and I get enough of you here.

Yeah, well if you're aware of child pornography ANYWHERE, you'd be a jerk not to report it.

"It's just free speech" does not cut it.
 
They can do things like pass resolutions and they could have voted to convict on impeachment twice. They voted Liz Cheney out of her state party.

They voted Cheney out of the state party? I didn't know that.
 
They can do things like pass resolutions and they could have voted to convict on impeachment twice. They voted Liz Cheney out of her state party.
So in theory the Republican State Party in Florida (he is registered in Florida, right?) can vote to exclude Trump from the party. Especially if they want to go all in for DeSantis.
 
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