Busta said:
Ah, you have already made up your mind. Well, there isn't much reason for us to debate then.
Where did you get that? Probably an observation beyond perception, I assume?
Busta said:
You did say 2 things that I liked, however.
- A man breaks down his muscle cells. His body reacts and will create more cells. He becomes stronger.
This is a good analogy as to why we are on this Earth. We are braking down our "spiritual muscles" and creating more so that we become stronger. Just as a physical workout hurts (and we might also question our Earthly father as to why he might want us to do something so painfull), so does our spiritual workout on Earth hurt.
"Well, in fact it's the same with mental strength. How can someone become stronger, if he weakens himself by not seeing true facts?"
Indeed.
I'm sorry that you think that you have all of this figured out. Certainly your missconceptions and presumed assumptions about me prove that this is not true, but hay, to each his own.
I just realise what kind of hilaric answer you give me here. You were the first one to compare "medecine" with mental strength and you comparance was even fully wrong.
Obviously, you have a very naieve view of mental strength.
You claim that by "softening" the situation of life, you will become stronger. That is ridiculous. Let's make a comparance with the muscle cells example:
There are two persons, one who lives in a dream world, the believer, and the atheistic, logic person. He, the last one, is able to solve problems quickly by critical thinking and neglecting his immediate desires (such as not being able to confront death). The believer, instead, dreams himself away and tries to neglect true facts, he abandons true knowledge and denies observations.
Tell me what person will be the one who is most competent? Take away the first person's religion and he will fall. While the other, the logic person, will try to find a quick solution whenever he is in trouble.
If he is in big trouble, danger, hazardous conditions, whatever, ... the first will pray to God. The believer got used to have support by his fantasies. He thinks God supports him and when he gets in trouble so deeply, he suddenly starts to question his belief. That is when he will fall.
While the second person, will quickly consider all options and evaluate the best. His chances are higher for survival. He is much stronger, can live without having need to something as a superiour, garding force. He can stand by himself.
Once more: faith is weakness, because a person seeks support and is too lame to make his own situation of life better. He fears death and makes up a story to comfor himself. While an atheist acts to bring hope, he sees the world as it is (maturity) and uses consequent, coherent thinking to handle problems. He is far much more competent and independent.
If you get children and you educate them with religion, you make them weak. It's like a drug: take it away and they fall.
A toddler needs to get 'dis-used' from his baby's dummy.
Also, your misconception of atheism was ridiculous. You point out a detail of all of what I've said. Proving that such "supernatural being" as a deity is immoral (which I haven't even made clear to you yet) is still nothing compared to what true philosophy suggests: the inexistance of a deity. And that is the major point of the atheistic view.