Auftrag said:
Stop giving me your bullshit. Israel has oppressed the Palestinian people and broken countless UN resolutions, it is perfectly clear and logical to understand and assert that what Israel has done in Lebonan and in Palestine has flamed muslim aggression.
Furthermore, tell me, is bombing a house and killing 40 people, 21 of them children in proportion?
Can't handle truth, can you. This is growing tiring. You consistently avoid topics and refuse to substantiate. As someone who, obviously, has been taught anti-Jew rhetoric, I recognize that you will not change your views. It would be nice, however if you could substantiate a few of them. You use words like 'oppression' without understanding their meaning or looking at the big picture.
Let's start from the beginning...I'll try to be as brief as possible:
The Ottoman Empire ruled Palestine, until defeated after WWI. At that point, based on the Palestine Mandate, passed by the League of Nations, Great Britian was to administrate Palestine and secure a homeland for Jews. The Balfour Declaration identifies this and both discussed the Jewish homeland and the fact that civil and religious rights of both non-Jews in the Jewish state and Jews in orhter parts of Palestine would be upheld. Jewish immigration then proceeded (the popuation was already 11% Jewish). As anti-Semitism grew in Europe, it spread to the Middle East. Jews were often terrorized in Arab countries or forced to leave. They were treated poorly by many of the Arabs they lived along side of in Palestine and by the Brittish.
During WWII, The Brittish refused immigration of Jews escaping Nazi extermination to Palestine. The Brittish tended to be pro-Arab in many of the conflicts both due to their concerns of the instability of many of the Arab countries, elimination of Arab support for the Allies, and, especially, reduction/elimination of oil support. The Jewish cause was not helped by terrorist attacks and assasinations on Brittish soldiers and politicians.
After WWII, with increasing U.S. pressure, the Brittish decided to terminate the madate in 1948. At this point, UNSCOP was formed, the organization that was to decide the fate of Palestine. The came up withthe partition plan, whereas part of Palestine was to be the Jewish homeland and part was to be Arabian. The proposal recognized that there would end up being Jews in the Arab partition and Arabs in the Jewish partition. They indicated that these two groups needed each other economically and that working together helped both groups. They
did not recommend anyone move. The Jewish Agency in stating their case to the U.N. encourage continued Arab residency and stated that no Arabs would be displaced by the partition (UNSCOP report, Chap. 2 Sect. D Para, 133 & 134). Arabs rejected the UNSCOP report and the U.N. resolution it spawned. Since Arabs refused to accept this, an Arab state of Palestine was never created.
Even after the 1948 war, where Arab countries attacked Israel, unprovoked (again, as stated in the U.N. resolution, no Arabs were required to leave). Palestinian Arabs were again told that they were not required to leave, just to "live in peace with their neighbors". This is stated in U.N. Resolution 194, a resolution rejectd by all Arab states. Israel has been accused of oppressing Palestinian Arabs a refusing to allow them to live in Israel or to have "the right of return". The resolution is clear on this; if they agree to live in peace with their neighbors. Palestinian Arabs and all Arab countries, at the time, were committed to the destruction of Israel. Doesn't sound like wanting to "live in peace with their neighbors" to me. It is certain that many Arab Palestinians left Israel. Some were, undobtedly expelled. It is improtant to note that one would not encourage someone, aimed at your destruction, to live in your country.
The plight of Palestinian Arabs is a direct result of their refusal to abide by UNSCOP or by Resolution 194. Israel has consistently responded to Arabic aggression.
I hope this educates you on this situation. I do not expect you to 'get it', but to, rather retort with some anti-Jewish rhetoric which, only shows biased, undocumented facts which you seem infamous for.
Here are the links to non-biased UN documents:
UNSCOP
http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/eed216406b50bf6485256ce10072f637/07175de9fa2de563852568d3006e10f3!OpenDocument
Resolution 194
http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/a06f2943c226015c85256c40005d359c/c758572b78d1cd0085256bcf0077e51a!OpenDocument
BTW, you never answered my question. Define 'proportional response'.