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Why does the world allow ISRAEL to "GET AWAY WITH IT" ??

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CaptainCourtesy said:
Wow, something we agree on.


You two may agree on that one, but you would have to also agree that there is no such thing as a narcissic personality disorder.
 

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arussian said:
It seems to me that all this current massacre is one BIG pretext for BIG, BIG, BIG US-Lead invasion into Syria and Iran.

Just remember how it was about 25 years ago.

It seems to me that Russia sold rockets capable of carrying a nuclear payload to IRAN. As such, Russia is 90% responsible for the threat that Iran currently poses to the rest of the world.

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Auftrag said:
Being a racist is not the same as being mentally ill. I think you would find it impossible to get someone in the medical profession to confirm that opinion.

True enough but it certainly implies a bias that would naturally affect your objectivity.
 

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Gardener said:
You two may agree on that one, but you would have to also agree that there is no such thing as a narcissic personality disorder.

What I'm guessing you mean by that is that you believe that Auftrag has this disorder; therefore if he is not mentally ill, this disorder does not exist. The disorder exists, but I think it is impossible to diagnose someone based on comments on an internet message board.

Look, I abhorr what he stands for, and plan to continue to attack his points, but attacking, personally, someone of his ilk, just allows them to feel victimized and gives strength to those feelings of persecution that they often exhibit. It also demeans our stance and tactics as being no better than theirs.

Just my opinion, my two cents, and how I plan on dealing (and have dealt) with those like Auftrag.

Again, just my opinion.
 

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Crispy said:
True enough ...

Tendency to hung out with those, who are similar to us in skin color, culture, nationality, profession, life experience, political views, – does not constitute a mental disorder.
Autfag creates mental picture of the world which does not reflect general reality and actually is not a reality. The important feature is that, his actions among us and his words are based on the distorted reality. He keeps on building his isolated world finding those who similar to him – individuals with similar mental anomalies. He does not have to be a racist or a fascist or a socialist. I carry similar “’looklike’’ features of a nationalist or – one can say - even a fascist when I pledge my allegiance to the American flag: ‘’one nation indivisible, ’’ etc.
The mentality in which, others are stupid and/or less valid and/or they are a barrier on the way of one’s group or one’s humanity (when one equals him/herself to humanity), - just because they are Jews, French, black, whites, - and often just because they are fans of another NFL team, liberals, conservatives, Christians, atheists, etc – is also the first step on the slope to a psychological disorder.. Desire to eliminate those others as an obstacle to one’s well-being is a certain sign of one’s disorder.. Arabs are not enemy of my American flag because they are Arabs, I have no reason to eliminate them, the only reason I have is to live with them in piece, I am not in war to kill Arabs, I am in war to kill their self-imposed hatred to me, - then our children can be good neighbors and marry each other. . Aufag walked in looking normal, looking like capable of building his speech in orderly manner, --but then and soon he has said enough to diagnose him. Take all his posts to a psychiatrist … Just one of his disorders: Jews controlling banks, Western politics, TV, movies, newspapers for Jewish purposes, when he is not a Jew – is a sure sign of a paranoid development of his mind.. As well he has exhibited other clinical problems.
 

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Question why dosnt isreal arrest these terroists instead of blowing them up along with civillians.
 

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Hisb'allah is a genocidal organization that enjoys popular support among the Lebanese, with only 7% of the population wanting them disarmed. The PROPORTIONAL response, therefore, would be to commit genocide upon the Lebanese, or at leat 93%.

Indeed, and that's why Israel shouldn't be concerned about 'public opinion', nor should it's supporters. Whatever deaths are incurred in this fumigation of Lebanon's southern province is entirely on the Lebanese, and Hezbollah's, shoulders.

The absurd 'proportionality' fallacy is merely the rehashed 'Isrealis aren't dead in great enough numbers' argument, and ridiculous on it's face; it's just some absurd 'talking point' from propogandists. Not even worth considering.

It seems to me that Russia sold rockets capable of carrying a nuclear payload to IRAN. As such, Russia is 90% responsible for the threat that Iran currently poses to the rest of the world.

Yes. And, several European countries, as well as Russia and/or China, are perfectly willing to sell them warheads for those nukes as well. So much for 'reasoning'.

Now Hezbollah on the other hand, places no value on the lives of women and children so there is no need for bomb shelters. They are worth much more dead than alive for propaganda purposes.

Yes. Civilian casualties are a primary goal of these Pan-Arabist Nazis.

Ever read Queen Noors book? She clearly states that Israel is the aggressor and do not have the right to defend themselves. She bashes them throughout her entire book. She only gives sympathy to the Palestinians for their causes and thinks they have done nothing wrong.

Then all she has to do is take them back in. Her husband threw them out; it was her beloved faux 'Palis' that wrecked Lebanon. She's just another hypocrite and terrorist enabler.

The absurd 'Two State Solution' has already been tried and failed; only idiots would try it again. They already have their own states. Those Arab countries are barely older than Israel, in case anybody bothers to look at their origins. Saudi Arabis is far larger than it was originally. Guess why ...

Since when do we bomb indiscriminately? I'm pretty sure trojan was referring to letting Israel do what needs to be done but suprise, suprise, you keep twisting it around. Getting kinda old...

They don't even see how absurd their arguments are. Are they saying Israelis are such bad shots they can only kill around 20 people a day average out of a fairly densely populated country of some 5 or 6 million? that's the only way their stupid charges of 'indiscriminate and random bombing' could be possible ...

Your intelligence is palpable. Not surprising really.

And yours isn't. Not surprising. Really! ...

Israel used to go after terrorists individually, but the UN and Europe whined about that, since they liked to shelter the vermin. Now they complain about the way they go about it now. True fecklessness, and exactly why Israel is doing the right thing this time by not agreeing to a 'cease fire'.

I extend my personal thanks to the IDF. Every one of the Hamas, Fatah, and Hezbollah vermin you kill is one less thug the rest of the world has to worry about. Thank you.
 
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I extend my personal thanks to the IDF. Every one of the Hamas, Fatah, and Hezbollah vermin you kill is one less thug the rest of the world has to worry about. Thank you.
Well said. :applaud
 

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Auftrag said:
I'm confident you don't actually believe any of that. Even you have the intelligence to see how illogical that assertion is.


No it's not you're a national socialist ie you believe the state should be vested with ultimate authority and that the purpose of the citizenry is to serve the state not the other way around. In effect your whole philisophical perspective is grounded in subservience and submission to the will of the state.
 

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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
No it's not you're a national socialist ie you believe the state should be vested with ultimate authority and that the purpose of the citizenry is to serve the state not the other way around. In effect your whole philisophical perspective is grounded in subservience and submission to the will of the state.

What does that have to do with me persnonality?

The state is an entity much like that of god. It is the force which guides, teaches, protects and gives cause to the strength, discipline and power of nations.

It is every Teutons duty to serve the state, for by doing so, the state serves the people. By serving the state and helping perpetuate its power, you are serving your people.

But that state can be organised in anyway you choose. National Socialism/NSL advocates a tierarchical structure of responsability. Everyone has the place and everyone has their purpose.
 
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nogoodname said:
Question why dosnt isreal arrest these terroists instead of blowing them up along with civillians.


Israel used to do that, via selective assassination and abductions that minimized collateral exposure of 'citizens'. The rest of the world objected, of course, since countries, like France and several South American dictatorships for instance, liked to harbor and protect terrorists, as long as they only killed Jews and Israelis. Now, Israel does goes about it the exact way the rest of world approves of, which is getting a lot more 'civilians' killed. Life really means nothing at all to the faux 'peace left', and most of them literally have orgasms reading about dead children and such; they don't have anything to discuss without lots of bodies lying around, and they especially don't like being named as the primary reason there are 'civilian' casualties, either.

But, the rest of the world is catching on to this scam, and it is no longer nearly as effective as it used to be, since it's clear to even the most casual observer who is responsible for the casualties and dead children, and it isn't Israelis.

Not that this is going to stop their active encouragement of the terrorists and hence a lot more deaths, since they're not very bright, and peer pressure is a far more important influence on them than facts.
 

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Auftrag said:
But that state can be organised in anyway you choose. National Socialism/NSL advocates a tierarchical structure of responsability. Everyone has the place and everyone has their purpose.

And in the Teutonic state where everyone has their place, your purpose is to troll on message boards?

Wow. Talk about short end of the stick.
 

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And in the Teutonic state where everyone has their place, your purpose is to troll on message boards?

Wow. Talk about short end of the stick.

I don't live in a Teutonic National Socialist state, you fool and I'm not trolling. I cant help the fact your limited intelligence is incapable of understanding the complexities of political ideas.

If anyones trolling it's you with that stupid post.
 

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Auftrag said:
I don't live in a Teutonic National Socialist state, you fool and I'm not trolling. I cant help the fact your limited intelligence is incapable of understanding the complexities of political ideas.

If anyones trolling it's you with that stupid post.

Forgive me, I forgot to include the smiley face to make it clear that my comments were in jest.

And why don't you live in a Teutonic state? What happened to the last one?

And how exactly is my disdain and dismissal of your personal and political beliefs indicative of an inability to understand their complexity? It's not like they're overly complex, to the contrary, they're exceedingly dumbed down in comparison to most political ideologies. Perhaps the result of a necessity to make them simpler to understand for the target market whom you and your ilk pander to?
 

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And why don't you live in a Teutonic state? What happened to the last one?

After 6 painstaking and isolated years it was finally destroyed by three massive armies from the three most powerfulest countries on the planet.

And how exactly is my disdain and dismissal of your personal and political beliefs indicative of an inability to understand their complexity?

As of yet, I have not seen you engage me in serious political discussion or attempt to discover or understand what it is I actually believe. You have made prejudicial statements, judging me as you would judge any National Socialist without a regard for the fact.s

It's not like they're overly complex, to the contrary, they're exceedingly dumbed down in comparison to most political ideologies.

The organisation I belong to have published many pamplets such as 'Dialectical Darwinism' and ‘Society and the struggle between races’ in which the ideas of "racialism" are laid out indepth.

When challanged seriously on these issues I will be sure to discuss, indepth, their contents and attempt to make you at least understand my point of view before you dismiss it.

Perhaps the result of a necessity to make them simpler to understand for the target market whom you and your ilk pander to?

Once again you are judging me based on what? That I am National Socialist? I do not belong, nor do I associate myself with the NSM, KKK, White Revolution or Blood and Honour or any of the other so called Aryan movement.

My ilk is a specific group of academics and artisans, but I'm sure even that is enough to fry your brain beyond comprehension.

That's right...National Socialists who think...
 

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Auftrag said:
After 6 painstaking and isolated years it was finally destroyed by three massive armies from the three most powerfulest countries on the planet.

Really? The "most powerfulest?" So much for the intellectual superiority of the Teutonic race.:doh


As of yet, I have not seen you engage me in serious political discussion or attempt to discover or understand what it is I actually believe. You have made prejudicial statements, judging me as you would judge any National Socialist without a regard for the fact.

So let's hear it. Everyone on this board has a standing invitation to lay out their own beliefs to the fullest as far as I'm concerned. I'd love to hear what you have to say.

The organisation I belong to have published many pamplets such as 'Dialectical Darwinism' and ‘Society and the struggle between races’ in which the ideas of "racialism" are laid out indepth.

Are all those pamphlets worded so clearly with such magnificent subject-verb agreement? I'll certainly have to see if I can get my hands on some of those.

And to actually address your point: Are you really arguing that because your "organisation have published" pamphlets with titles that purport to be the works of intellectuals, that the ideas are actually complex, have merit, and are logically consistent?

If you actually think that pretentious titles and the use of ten dollar words makes something intelligent or compelling, I've got a stack of about 40 Literature major's honors theses I'd LOVE to have you take a look at.

When challanged seriously on these issues I will be sure to discuss, indepth, their contents and attempt to make you at least understand my point of view before you dismiss it.

Like I said, feel free.

Once again you are judging me based on what? That I am National Socialist? I do not belong, nor do I associate myself with the NSM, KKK, White Revolution or Blood and Honour or any of the other so called Aryan movement.

I don't recall ever accusing you of associating with those organizations. By your own admission, you seem to have a deep respect bordering on affinity for the actions and beliefs of the Nazi party. I think that gives me a good idea of where to start my judgment.

My ilk is a specific group of academics and artisans, but I'm sure even that is enough to fry your brain beyond comprehension.

......right.
That's right...National Socialists who think...

Never said you don't think. Everyone thinks, the vast majority just happen to do it poorly. So far, you seem thoroughly unexceptional.
 

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Really? The "most powerfulest?" So much for the intellectual superiority of the Teutonic race.:doh

My first language isn't English. It isn't even my second language come to think of it. I think however that I am doing quite well. Sometimes I make up words without realising that they are not actually an English word.

This is what happens when you have three languages in your head.

So let's hear it. Everyone on this board has a standing invitation to lay out their own beliefs to the fullest as far as I'm concerned. I'd love to hear what you have to say.

About what in particular?

And to actually address your point: Are you really arguing that because your "organisation have published" pamphlets with titles that purport to be the works of intellectuals, that the ideas are actually complex, have merit, and are logically consistent?

Not because of the titles, but essentially yes, that is precisley what I am arguing.

If you actually think that pretentious titles and the use of ten dollar words makes something intelligent or compelling, I've got a stack of about 40 Literature major's honors theses I'd LOVE to have you take a look at.

Perhaps you will be enlightened.

I don't recall ever accusing you of associating with those organizations. By your own admission, you seem to have a deep respect bordering on affinity for the actions and beliefs of the Nazi party. I think that gives me a good idea of where to start my judgment.

I am a Classical National Socialist (1919-1934) and am opposed to revision, which is precisely what the contemporary National Socialist movements attempt to do.

I suppose you could say, we're "anti-vulger" National Socialists. In so far as w espouse Hitlerism, rather than this blood and honour nonsense.

......right.

I dont' know what that means.

Never said you don't think. Everyone thinks, the vast majority just happen to do it poorly. So far, you seem thoroughly unexceptional.

Then perhaps I will have the opportunity to discuss with you indepth my political beliefs amd demonstrate that I am not as vacuous as you seemingly accept.
 

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Auftrag said:
My first language isn't English. It isn't even my second language come to think of it. I think however that I am doing quite well. Sometimes I make up words without realising that they are not actually an English word.

This is what happens when you have three languages in your head.



About what in particular?



Not because of the titles, but essentially yes, that is precisley what I am arguing.



Perhaps you will be enlightened.



I am a Classical National Socialist (1919-1934) and am opposed to revision, which is precisely what the contemporary National Socialist movements attempt to do.

I suppose you could say, we're "anti-vulger" National Socialists. In so far as w espouse Hitlerism, rather than this blood and honour nonsense.



I dont' know what that means.



Then perhaps I will have the opportunity to discuss with you indepth my political beliefs amd demonstrate that I am not as vacuous as you seemingly accept.


I would recommend the new " Tortured Debate " format...found in the basement for this Lovers Quarrel....


Actually I just want to see NYU in serious action
 

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Probably because United Nations (of tyrants too) resolution 242 is being violated by Syria and the Palestinians...ever since 1967 by support for terrorism.

I am sure the United Nations (of tyrants too) only wants to send peacekeepers to protect the terrorists. :cool:

Syria has always been a terrorist-infested hellhole! The peace-keepers would be deployed to keep the terrorist scumbags in PERMENANT check.

The UN is NOT tyrants, that is the belief of a corrupt terrorist-loving fruitcake, who follows the terrorist version of Islam (which has been named "Is-LAME" by non-terrorists everywhere) while murdering defensless civilians.
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Iran and Syria are very close to find out what it feels like to get owned like the terrorist whores they are.
 

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tecoyah said:
I would recommend the new " Tortured Debate " format...found in the basement for this Lovers Quarrel....


Actually I just want to see NYU in serious action

I'm sorry, I don't understand?
 

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What does that have to do with me persnonality?

The state is an entity much like that of god. It is the force which guides, teaches, protects and gives cause to the strength, discipline and power of nations.

It is every Teutons duty to serve the state, for by doing so, the state serves the people. By serving the state and helping perpetuate its power, you are serving your people.

But that state can be organised in anyway you choose. National Socialism/NSL advocates a tierarchical structure of responsability. Everyone has the place and everyone has their purpose.

And that purpose is to serve the state which requires you to submit fully to the will of the state ergo my reference to your submissive personality so bow down and lick the hand which feeds you, enjoy the tranquility of servitude, and may your chains set lightly upon you.
 
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Israel is allowed to get away with it because the only people that have the power to stop Israel are Europe and America - both of whom have agendas of their own that favor Israel "Getting away with it".
 

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Israel is allowed to get away with it because the only people that have the power to stop Israel are Europe and America - both of whom have agendas of their own that favor Israel "Getting away with it".

Israel is allowed to get away with what? Defending themselves from destructive attacks? You sure have a distorted lens like the world at large.

The one that the world allowed to get away from crime against humanity is Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during WWII. The root of Islamic Arab hatred on Jews and Islamic terrorism can be traced to the Nazi connection from Haj Amin al-Husseini to Adolf Hitler.

Under Husseini, using Nazi power, the fate of 4,000 thousand Bulgaria Jewish children in the train turned from hope to destiny in the death camp due to Husseini's intervention to prevent their departure.

And under Husseini, Bosnian and Croatian Jews were massacred by Yugoslavian Muslims. In 1920 Husseini instigated Arab attack against Jews who were praying at the Western Wall. In 1929 Husseini instigated major Arab riots under false pretext against the Jews of Palestine and called for "Slaughter the Jews!". The Nazi intended to drive all the remaining European Jews to one location in Palestine and exterminate them there as their final solution.

All these fanatic violence against Jews were so perversely evil and occurred even before the modern State of Israel was established. The Arabs lost their war during World War II when they bet on the Nazi to help them to conquer the whole of middle east from Africa to Saudi Arabia.

To the winners should go the spoil. But the Allied were generous enough to let the Arabs to have their lands. Yet they want it all even though they lost the war. But the same perversity refused to die and continued to be the root cause of modern Islamic terrorism's ongoing genocidal program against the Jews of Israel.

Hezbollah and other Islamic terrorists are Husseini's modern day followers with the same call to kill Jews whereever they find them. How is Israel not supposed to defend themselves?
 
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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
And that purpose is to serve the state which requires you to submit fully to the will of the state ergo my reference to your submissive personality so bow down and lick the hand which feeds you, enjoy the tranquility of servitude, and may your chains set lightly upon you.

Thank you for you reponse. Unfortunatly there is nothing for me to say to you in the context of your statements. I. however accept your right to blabell
 
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