David D.
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you post something that was blatantly wrong, I correct your dishonest comment and you throw out this sort of nonsense. My taxes are too damn high. I don't get anything extra for paying many times more taxes than the average citizen. I was not GIVEN anything additional by the government yet people like you demand I pay more.
You should look into using more tax loopholes. I bet you can get your percentage down to a nice and manageable 20-25%. Who's your accountant?
what loopholes? I take every deduction that I can and I still pay an effective rate of 24% federal income tax. and I have top accountants. what loopholes are you thinking and how is that responsive to my post.
Libs are brainwashed to believe that "the rich", aka anyone making over minimum wage, are secreting away billions and billions of dollars in super-secret Swiss vaults.
Since they have no concept of overhead, capitol investments or retained earnings, they think you just have all this money laying around.
You do realize that there are many rich liberals... right?
I have proffered an objective basis for tax fairness. what have you done? whine that the rich need to pay more based on what-envy? you sure haven't ever come close to setting an objective standard. tax fairness-if you make 22% of the income you pay 22% of the income tax is a good way to start. You didn't provide ANY FACTS that suggest that the middle class are paying a crippling amount of income tax. You posted claims that support the OPINION that the middle class is disappearing but contains no solutions and certainly does not demonstrate the faulty premise of this thread
Of course that would be dependent on what lean of the court is at that time if they notice the real meaning behind clauses. What you fail to realize and what the founders knew was the shortcoming of the courts. They knew full well they would be inflicted by self interest and the infection of false premises of what they did. They knew full well you people would come. The thing about rules of the land is no matter how well you do it people will want power over other people.
You are opposed to this country's system of rule of law. Got it!
Please, just the facts turtledude.
As referenced above, these facts show the middle class have suffered more from trickle down tax economics than have the rich:
"In 1950, the ratio of the average executive's paycheck to the average worker's paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one."
"As of 2007, the bottom 80 percent of American households held about 7% of the liquid financial assets."
"The bottom 50 percent of income earners in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth."
"Average Wall Street bonuses for 2009 were up 17 percent when compared with 2008."
"The top 1% of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America's corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago."
"For the first time in U.S. history, more than 40 million Americans are on food stamps, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture projects that number will go up to 43 million Americans in 2011."
"Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years."
Now let's see your facts to back up your claim that the rich pay the most crippling amount of income tax?
You do realize that there are many rich liberals... right?
strawman alert.
your facts don't dispute my claim. the rich pay by far the heaviest tax burden. you have a tendency to post facts that are not relevant to your conclusions and demand we dispute facts that are not material to your argument. its a common theme among the lefties on this board
Regarding the thread, I'll take facts over opinion.
They are very relevant, as others have noted. Where are your facts that back up your opinion that the rich have suffered more than the middle class?
you tend to grasp facts that have no relevance to the point you are trying to make. for example, saying that the rich have become richer does not prove that the rich need to pay more and more taxes.
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