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Why do Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Adolf Hitler?

Dayton3

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For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.

Yet in a number of ways, Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Hitler.

How so? We've seen people here and elsewhere routinely criticize and condemn anything and everyone even remotely associated with Donald Trump.
Yet, we don't see those same people condemning architecture or German Shepherds (to name just two things) because Adolf Hitler was interested in both.

Why?
Doesn't strike me as right.
 
Why do Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Adolf Hitler?

Because nearly all are corporate-fascists demanding an authoritarian plutocratic and kleptocratic government. They love burning books and censorship.
 
Oh no, some people are being mean about Trump!!!!!!

Do you not remember the stuff that was said about Obama by conservatives?

If Trump can't handle criticism then he has no business being in politics let alone the President.
 
Dayton3 said:
For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.

Yet in a number of ways, Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Hitler.

How so? We've seen people here and elsewhere routinely criticize and condemn anything and everyone even remotely associated with Donald Trump.
Yet, we don't see those same people condemning architecture or German Shepherds (to name just two things) because Adolf Hitler was interested in both.

Why?
Doesn't strike me as right.
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Yes, making fun of his spray tan is JUST THE SAME as backing him into a bunker to shoot himself.
 
Peter said:
Oh no, some people are being mean about Trump!!!!!!

Do you not remember the stuff that was said about Obama by conservatives?
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The worst stuff said about President Obama was racist. And that had to be expected given the uniqueness of his situation.
 
Dayton3 said:
For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.

Yet in a number of ways, Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Hitler.

How so? We've seen people here and elsewhere routinely criticize and condemn anything and everyone even remotely associated with Donald Trump.
Yet, we don't see those same people condemning architecture or German Shepherds (to name just two things) because Adolf Hitler was interested in both.

Why?
Doesn't strike me as right.
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How has Trump been treated worse than your beloved fascist hero, Adolph Hitler? Has he been bombed, subject to assassination attempts, or shot at? Is being held criminally and politically accountable for his actions a form of persecution?

Being a fascist drama lama isn't working for you.
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The OP is such a ridiculous premise/over exaggeration. And false equivalence (architecture, german shepherds?)

Perhaps you can narrow the scope by identifying what specifically Trump has been criticized for that he should not have been?
 
Dayton3 said:
For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.

Yet in a number of ways, Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Hitler.

How so? We've seen people here and elsewhere routinely criticize and condemn anything and everyone even remotely associated with Donald Trump.
Yet, we don't see those same people condemning architecture or German Shepherds (to name just two things) because Adolf Hitler was interested in both.

Why?
Doesn't strike me as right.
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the only way they can keep their multiple tent caucus together is to have hate filled constituents, so they do it when given a target.

of course, Trump certainly did not do himself any favors by making himself an easy target more often than not... not to say he deserves it in any sense, just that sometimes you have to choose your words carefully around cancel culture idiots.
 
Dayton3 said:
For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.

Yet in a number of ways, Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Hitler.

How so? We've seen people here and elsewhere routinely criticize and condemn anything and everyone even remotely associated with Donald Trump.
Yet, we don't see those same people condemning architecture or German Shepherds (to name just two things) because Adolf Hitler was interested in both.

Why?
Doesn't strike me as right.
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The OP assumes facts not in evidence.
 
Dayton3 said:
For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.

Yet in a number of ways, Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Hitler.

How so? We've seen people here and elsewhere routinely criticize and condemn anything and everyone even remotely associated with Donald Trump.
Yet, we don't see those same people condemning architecture or German Shepherds (to name just two things) because Adolf Hitler was interested in both.

Why?
Doesn't strike me as right.
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Name one of these ways.
 
Buckeyes85 said:
The OP is such a ridiculous premise/over exaggeration. And false equivalence (architecture, german shepherds?)

Perhaps you can narrow the scope by identifying what specifically Trump has been criticized for that he should not have been?
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Being overweight and orange with a low IQ and a ridiculous wig? Nobody ever stooped that low with Hitler!
 
zyzygy said:
Being overweight and orange with a low IQ? Nobody ever stooped that low with Hitler!
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In their eyes, Trump was never supposed to be held accountable to the laws of the US or to social repercussions from his actions because he agreed with them and made them feel powerful again.
 
Dayton3 said:
For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.

Yet in a number of ways, Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Hitler.

How so? We've seen people here and elsewhere routinely criticize and condemn anything and everyone even remotely associated with Donald Trump.
Yet, we don't see those same people condemning architecture or German Shepherds (to name just two things) because Adolf Hitler was interested in both.

Why?
Doesn't strike me as right.
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Did Hitler routinely stiff workers he owed money to? What a false premise. I will say that djt is a far greater danger to the country than Hitler is.
 
I think this might be the first time I have ever seen a Hitler thread that is too strange to even call godwin on.
 
Dayton3 said:
For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.

Yet in a number of ways, Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Hitler.

How so? We've seen people here and elsewhere routinely criticize and condemn anything and everyone even remotely associated with Donald Trump.
Yet, we don't see those same people condemning architecture or German Shepherds (to name just two things) because Adolf Hitler was interested in both.

Why?
Doesn't strike me as right.
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I do complain about the use of the Big Lie technique as in the case of the "the election was stolen" Big Lie.

And since Goebbels is credited with perfecting gje technique and both he and Hitler add on record stating that the rReich could never have been without what they learned from the Soviets about propaganda.

So maybe that's it.
 
zyzygy said:
Being overweight and orange with a low IQ and a ridiculous wig? Nobody ever stooped that low with Hitler!
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Well I think him not being very bright is a pretty important job requirement open to criticism. And what president has escaped criticism for their appearance? Do you not recall conservatives blasting Obama for having the gall to wear a tan suit? Calling it unpresidential?
And plenty of people did mock Hitler back in the day- presumably not to his face given that he was after all a brutal murderer. Charlie Chaplin made a whole movie mocking Hitler.
 
Dayton3 said:
For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.
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Only because our institutions held, just barley but they held.

Had Trump ever gained the power Hitler had he would have been ever bit as evil.

This considered, a better populous would be morally obliged to treat Trump worse.
 
Dayton3 said:
His wife Melania being criticized for one.
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I would agree there aren't many times that a 1st lady warrants criticism but were you out of country during the Clinton and Obama administrations? If your intent was to demonstrate how much more unfairly the Trumps were treated than other administrations, this does not help
 
Buckeyes85 said:
I would agree there aren't many times that a 1st lady warrants criticism but were you out of country during the Clinton and Obama administrations? If your intent was to demonstrate how much more unfairly the Trumps were treated than other administrations, this does not help
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How does treatment of the Clintons or Obama's justify the treatment of the Trumps?
 
mrjurrs said:
Did Hitler routinely stiff workers he owed money to? What a false premise. I will say that djt is a far greater danger to the country than Hitler is.
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Hitler was a scum bag but Eva Braun was treated better than Melania. Hitler was only married once and I don't remember that fascist prick bragging about affairs with porn stars burlesque performers. Adolph was not recorded by history saying that he could grab women by the *****, even if they were Jews or black.
 
Hitler wound up dead, in a ditch and his body burned, with his bride by his side (dead.). Trump is banned from Twitter.
 
can2man said:
Hitler wound up dead, in a ditch and his body burned, with his bride by his side (dead.). Trump is banned from Twitter.
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But that's the same for the MAGAites. They are being denied their daily dose of hate and spin from their leader and that is inhumane treatment for both him and them.
 
Dayton3 said:
For all his obvious faults (and they are legion) Donald Trump is not and has never been remotely as evil as Hitler was.
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So you're saying, "At least Trump didn't succeed at becoming a murderous fascist dictator!"

Ever hear the phrase "damn with faint praise?"


Yet in a number of ways, Trump opponents treat him worse than they would Hitler.
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Seriously?!?

Let's get real. Trump wants to turn the US into a Banana Republic -- all to feed his ego and bank account. If he was more competent, we'd be on the verge of a civil war right now. (We're already perilously taking steps in that direction.)

To wit: Trump repeatedly relies on the Authoritarian Playbook, including but not limited to:
• Wants maximum power with minimum responsibility
• Deliberately undermines the legitimacy of the government, especially other branches
• Attacks on the press
• Refers to opponents and the press as "enemies of the people" (one of Stalin's favorite slurs)
• Violates norms, constantly, to his advantage
• Exploits and widens political and partisan divisions
• Unleashes a firehose of lies and disinformation, on a daily basis
• Demands one-way loyalty from everyone
• Refuses to accept electoral defeat
• Tries to subvert judicial independence
• Proclaims he favors "law and order," while actually disregarding and subverting the rule of law
• Makes a big show of military trappings (remember when he wanted a Communist-style military parade?)
• Indulge in rampant corruption and self-dealing
• Encourage conspiracy theories and empower conspiracy theorists

Once an autocrat has seized power, they rarely give it up, and often severely damage their nation. Erdogan, Putin, Duterte, Orban -- all admired by Trump -- followed that same pattern. (So did Chavez, Maduro, Pinochet and so on.)

Oh, and let's not forget that Trump is a racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, transphobic, crude, narcissistic bully... who encouraged his followers to ATTACK CONGRESS so that he could remain in office.

Last but not least: Republicans and conservatives spent the past decade heaping the same kind of rhetoric (if not worse), with basically no justification whatsoever, on Obama, Biden, and Harris. Physician, heal thyself.

Sure, he's not as bad as Hitler. But he is almost certainly the 2nd or 3rd worst President in US history. The only worse ones are Pierce and Buchanan, who utterly failed to deal with slavery, and lit the fuse on the Civil War.

I could go on, but hopefully by now you get the picture. A President doesn't need to slaughter millions in order to justify stiff criticism and opposition.
 
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