Why Do People (Especially Christians) Hate Jews? (1 Viewer)

[Southern Belle]

I joined this forum to learn about things and opinions that I couldn't find out from people in person. I live in the Bible Belt and I don't know any Jewish people, simply because I've never met any. What I want to know is why so many people hate Jews and refuse to let Israel be. I deffinately don't mean this post to sound Anti-Semetic, but exactly the opposite. Being a Christian, I'm very intrigued by Judaism.

Now to begin, I am a Baptist, and so I'm going by the King James Version of the Bible and nothing more.

Now, we know from the Bible that the Jews, Abraham's children, were the Chosen People. They were given the Covenents, the Torah, and the Ten Commandments. Also, and this is where Jews and Christians disagree, Jesus the Messiah would come from the Jews.

All of Abraham's sons were promised land and a great nation- and this had to include his illegitimant son, Ishmael, I believe. I think Ishmael's line may have been the prophets of Islam, but I can't be sure on that but it does make sense...

Anyway, in the Bible it seems that Israel will be at war for their land until Christ's return, as in, forever. It seems to be destined...

I was taught that we as Christians had to protect Israel. If we protected Israel, we'd be blessed. They are God's people, and also Jesus's people, and it was right. The USA has always supported Israel and look how good we are doing. The Muslims wish to annihilate Israel and look how they suffer! I believe if we were to turn against Israel like some liberals would like, we'd be turning against God.

What I would like to know is why some Christians hate Jews. I don't know much about Catholicism, but Mel Gibson sure does seem to. Is it because they killed Christ? If that is so, Jesus Himself said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." If he said that, I don't think he wanted us to hate them either.

I asked my grandmother why people hate the Jews since they haven't done anything to anyone and she said people probably hate them out of jealousy because Isreal is very successful. I also have a slight theory that hating Israel might be a subconscious hatred of God...

Btw, may I ask a question? What do the Jews expect of a Messiah? Of course, in the Bible it said they expected a king who was loud and flashy and rejected Christ because he was humble and sunk into the populace and mingled with commoners and acted regular. Is that true?

I seriously don't mean any offense to anyone by this post. I have just been wondering this for a very long time (actually since I was a kid in church) and I am grateful for any replies from anyone on this subject. :2wave:

 

[Gibberish]

I believe if we were to turn against Israel like some liberals would like, we'd be turning against God.

Most liberals cheer for Israel. I haven't heard one that hasn't and your below quote contradicts your above statement, unless you meet a lot of radical Christian liberals.

What I would like to know is why some Christians hate Jews. I don't know much about Catholicism, but Mel Gibson sure does seem to. Is it because they killed Christ? If that is so, Jesus Himself said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." If he said that, I don't think he wanted us to hate them either.

First off you will find most Christians cherry pick the passages they want to follow in the bible so your passage is moot. Radical Christians, the ones who hate other religions, seem to hate Jews for two reasons:

1. They are historically weak. The Jewish people always seem to need the aid of other people and cannot successfully fight their own battles, it can seem to some as if they purposefully depend on the help. This would make the Jewish people as a whole unworthy of the holy land in the view of a Radical.
2. They killed Christ and are against his teachings.

Btw, may I ask a question? What do the Jews expect of a Messiah? Of course, in the Bible it said they expected a king who was loud and flashy and rejected Christ because he was humble and sunk into the populace and mingled with commoners and acted regular. Is that true?

Not that I have read. I do remember hearing something that there was a Jewish prophecy that there would be two false messiahs splitting the religion into three before the real messiah came. Jesus turned some jewish to Christianity and Muhammad turned some jewish to Islam.

I'll try to find a source to this.

I seriously don't mean any offense to anyone by this post. I have just been wondering this for a very long time (actually since I was a kid in church) and I am grateful for any replies from anyone on this subject. :2wave:

You'll find most people here have pretty thick skin and understand the point is discussion not an attack.

 

[The Real McCoy]

I've always wondered the same thing myself.

I suspect part of the anti-semetic rhetoric stems from a bit of jealousy. The Jews are smart. In America, they're phenomenally over-represented in the Ivy League schools, laboratories, law firms, etc. and they seem to come out on top in all standardized measures of intellectual performance.


I never quite understood it though. Some of the friendliest, most down to earth people I've ever met were Jewish.

 

[The Real McCoy]

Most liberals cheer for Israel. I haven't heard one that hasn't

You're joking, right?

 

[The face of Jacob]

I joined this forum to learn about things and opinions that I couldn't find out from people in person. I live in the Bible Belt and I don't know any Jewish people, simply because I've never met any. What I want to know is why so many people hate Jews and refuse to let Israel be. I deffinately don't mean this post to sound Anti-Semetic, but exactly the opposite. Being a Christian, I'm very intrigued by Judaism.

Why? Because they jealous at the Jews.

Now to begin, I am a Baptist, and so I'm going by the King James Version of the Bible and nothing more.

The "New Testament" is a book which got the credibility of books like Harry Potter or Peter Penn. The "New Testament" was written by people who we don't know who they were, upon what narcotic they were on the day they wrote it and not the mention the fact that they wrote it according their own will and their own imagination.

Now, we know from the Bible that the Jews, Abraham's children, were the Chosen People. They were given the Covenents, the Torah, and the Ten Commandments. Also, and this is where Jews and Christians disagree, Jesus the Messiah would come from the Jews.

The Bible is invented book. The Tanach is the original holy book which is written in Hebrew and the first 5 books of it aka Torah was given by God to the children of Israel and to them only.

Jews aren't the children of Abraham but the children of his grandson Jacob.

Jesus isn't the Messiah.

Couple of things first: Jesus was a Jewish criminal who was sentenced to death by the Israeli government. Jesus was a Jew. And as a Jew he should have followed the commandments in the Torah that his grand parents got in the revelation in mount Horeb 1300 years before his time. But Jesus didn't follow these commandments. Jesus was sentenced to death by the Israeli government of those days aka Sanhedrin because he enchanted, incited and tempted the nation of Israel to strange worship. God commanded to kill such people like Jesus and he wasn't the only Jewish criminal that we killed. Elijah the prophit slaughtered 400 Jews who were like Jesus couple of hundreds years before.

Messiah is coming from the Hebrew word: Mashiach. The meaning of it is to anoint a king with olive oil. The Israeli prohpets used to anoint the kings hair with olive oil.

There is the prophet of the Israeli prophet Isiah who said (500 years before Jesus time) that after the second destruction of the temple, and after the long exile of the Jews there will be a time in which the Jews will have a leader who will do 3 things:

1. Will built the third temple in Jerusalem.
2. Will gather all the Jews from all over the world to Israel.
3. Will fight the "Wars Of God" in order to restore the greater Israel.

In the times of Jesus the second temple was standing still and the Jews weren't in the exile.

All of Abraham's sons were promised land and a great nation- and this had to include his illegitimant son, Ishmael, I believe. I think Ishmael's line may have been the prophets of Islam, but I can't be sure on that but it does make sense...

NOT TRUE!

God promissed the land to the children of Jacob and only to them.

Anyway, in the Bible it seems that Israel will be at war for their land until Christ's return, as in, forever. It seems to be destined...

There's no such sentence in the Bible.

The Pagan Romans made from a dead Jew a God/Son of God. He won't come back. He is burried for 2000 years and will stay like that.

I was taught that we as Christians had to protect Israel. If we protected Israel, we'd be blessed. They are God's people, and also Jesus's people, and it was right. The USA has always supported Israel and look how good we are doing. The Muslims wish to annihilate Israel and look how they suffer! I believe if we were to turn against Israel like some liberals would like, we'd be turning against God.

Anyone who protect Israel will be blessed. So bless be you.

Jews aren't Jesus's people. Jesus didn't have any people.

USA didn't always supported Israel. In fact, in the first years Israel got most of her help from France and from Europe. In the Yom Kippur war (1973) Israel had tp beg to president Nickson to send an Air Supply of weapons to Israel in order to win the war, he refused, his people said that he was drunk at that time and didn't function at all. Only in the last minute he agreed to sent this help.

USA lied to Israel in the Jonathan Polard case. Israel signed with USA on an agreement in which USA will supply intelligence that she will collect on a certain issues regarding Arab countries. Jonathan Polard who was working in the USA navy intelligence saw that USA didn't provide that data to Israel in the opposite of their promise.

USA helps Israel a lot but Israel depends only on herself.

What I would like to know is why some Christians hate Jews. I don't know much about Catholicism, but Mel Gibson sure does seem to. Is it because they killed Christ? If that is so, Jesus Himself said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." If he said that, I don't think he wanted us to hate them either.

There's no such thing as "Chirstians". Christians are Noachides who betrayed the 7 laws of Noach.

http://www.bneinoach.org/news.php

Christians, Muslims, Jedi, Realists etc are all the children of Noach (so the Jews by the way) and as children of Noach they are obligated to the 7 laws that God gave to Noach and his family after the big flood.

Jews killed a Jewish criminal who later on the Pagan Romans turned him to God/son of God.

How do you know that Jesus said that? How do you know that Jesus was a son of God? The Pagan Romans took a sentence of a prophecy of the Israeli prophet Isiah who said that "The young girl is pregnant" and turn it to "The virgin is pregnant".

I asked my grandmother why people hate the Jews since they haven't done anything to anyone and she said people probably hate them out of jealousy because Isreal is very successful.

Your grandmother is a smart lady.

Btw, may I ask a question? What do the Jews expect of a Messiah? Of course, in the Bible it said they expected a king who was loud and flashy and rejected Christ because he was humble and sunk into the populace and mingled with commoners and acted regular. Is that true?

He wasn't Christ/God/son of God. Your ancestors made him to be so!

He was a Jewish criminal and we rejected him in the same way that you reject criminals there in America.

Have a great day!

 

[Morrow]

If your interested in actual conversation, I will try to offer a little perspective. One logical fallacy at a time.

First, I am Liberal
Second, I am not a Christian, despite what some of my posts might otherwise suggest.
Thirdly, I do not hate the Jews, or anyone to include anti-Semites. I've been accused of being both...
Fourthly, I am strongly opposed to the Israeli states international policy. It is beyond arrogant, racist, and totally irresponsible. I cite on this very forum the posts of ‘the face of jacob’ for the first two, and for the later I say this. The Israeli government was for a very long time the group in power, by virtue of that position they held the power and therefore the responsibility, to resolve their issue with Palestinians. Instead they degraded them, marginalized them, bulldozed their villages and confiscated their property, and some how we’re supposed to think the reason Palestinians the hate the Israelis is think it is anti-Semitism (P.S. This argument makes even less sense with this little factoid… Palestine ARE Semitic).

The point of that is to demonstrate one can be very much opposed to Israeli, because they are the party that not only failed to address a problem, but started it by violating every civil right a human being could have. That doesn’t mean I hate Jews, it means I think the Israeli government is the responsible party..

Why do hate people hate Jews? Or why did they? Very simple, they were a threat to the powers to be. They were involved in money lending, banks, precious metals and jewelling. The Jewish community had enormous wealth in comparison to the Christian communities. But, they were seen as owing their allegiance to their God, and not the rulers of the land. So the rulers of the land found the Jews had to both be prevented from obtaining any political power, and they made handy scapegoats. There were everywhere, they were rich, and they were another religion. It was easy to make it out like these heretics were rich because they had been stealing money and causing the famine, high taxes and other problems that plagued the peasantry. Once that hate is established, it is going to filter down through the ages. Most recently Hitler once again resurrected the Jews as scapegoat. People know it isn’t really true, but it package deal, so they accept it because they are also getting a higher standard of living.

 

[1069]

Why Do People (Especially Christians) Hate Jews?

Well, historically, Jews have made a convenient scapegoat.
The gentile working class tends to perceive Jews as elitists, is my understanding. And it's my understanding that this has been the case for the past millenium, wherever in the world Jews have tried to settle.
Jews historically tended to be of the merchant class; they aroused the emnity of the working class and poor gentiles of Europe by 1. being more affluent than them, and 2. being (or at least having a reputation of being) aloof, elitist, exclusory, clannish... in short, belonging to a closed society into which gentiles were not invited, although being willing to do business with gentiles and take their money.
None of this is reason to "hate" anybody, of course; but over the centuries, rising leaders and revolutionaries who needed the support of the Common Man, the working class, have garnered it by agitating against the Jews, by pointing to the Jews (a convenient target) as the reason for social problems, and then claiming to have the answer: persecute and/or eliminate the Jews, and life will once again be dandy for poor, uneducated working-class gentiles.
In the course of these propaganda campaigns, numerous unsavory characteristics have been attributed to the Jews, outlandish and unsubstantiated allegations made against everything from Jewish business practices and Jewish cultural mores and ethics to Jewish personal hygiene.
Some of these stereotypes, recycled over and over whenever a scapegoat was needed over the years, have unfortunately stuck, and now inform the present-day collective conscious.
Some people think Jews are stingy. Some people think Jews are dishonest in their business practices, out to cheat unwitting Gentiles. Many people think Jews are elitist, leading to many conspiracy theories that have rich liberal Jews covertly controlling the media and/or the world from behind the scenes.

I don't know, I could be totally wrong but those are the reasons I've been able to come up with why some people, especially the uneducated gentile working class, do not today and have not historically liked Jews.

Of course, disagreeing with the current actions and policies of Israel and wishing to cease our support of them is not the same as "hating Jews", any more than disagreeing with the actions and policies of the Senegalese government is equivalent to "hating blacks".

 

[Southern Belle]

Why? Because they jealous at the Jews.


The "New Testament" is a book which got the credibility of books like Harry Potter or Peter Penn. The "New Testament" was written by people who we don't know who they were, upon what narcotic they were on the day they wrote it and not the mention the fact that they wrote it according their own will and their own imagination.

Ahh, I see. We believe the Old Testiment is the history of the Jewish people, and all the wrathful things God had to do until Christ came to save everyone. Now all that has to be done is accept Him or not to, which is why God doesn't intervene like he used to, there's no reason for him to.


The Bible is invented book. The Tanach is the original holy book which is written in Hebrew and the first 5 books of it aka Torah was given by God to the children of Israel and to them only.

Jews aren't the children of Abraham but the children of his grandson Jacob.

Oh yes, Jacob's 12 children... Although, wasn't Abraham the one God mad the first promise to? God had promised Abraham's children a great nation, yet then asked him to sacrifice his son Isaac as a test, but if Isaac was sacrificed, how would his decendants have a nation? That was only a test of faith and Isaac was spared. There was a fun little song we knew in bible school:
Father Abraham had many sons,
Many sons had Father Abraham,
I am one of them, and so are you,
So let's all praise the Lord!
Yes I know the song was talking about the Jewish people in the OT and WE really aren't, but it was still a fun song. ^_^

Jesus isn't the Messiah.

Couple of things first: Jesus was a Jewish criminal who was sentenced to death by the Israeli government. Jesus was a Jew. And as a Jew he should have followed the commandments in the Torah that his grand parents got in the revelation in mount Horeb 1300 years before his time. But Jesus didn't follow these commandments. Jesus was sentenced to death by the Israeli government of those days aka Sanhedrin because he enchanted, incited and tempted the nation of Israel to strange worship. God commanded to kill such people like Jesus and he wasn't the only Jewish criminal that we killed. Elijah the prophit slaughtered 400 Jews who were like Jesus couple of hundreds years before.

Messiah is coming from the Hebrew word: Mashiach. The meaning of it is to anoint a king with olive oil. The Israeli prohpets used to anoint the kings hair with olive oil.

There is the prophet of the Israeli prophet Isiah who said (500 years before Jesus time) that after the second destruction of the temple, and after the long exile of the Jews there will be a time in which the Jews will have a leader who will do 3 things:

1. Will built the third temple in Jerusalem.
2. Will gather all the Jews from all over the world to Israel.
3. Will fight the "Wars Of God" in order to restore the greater Israel.

In the times of Jesus the second temple was standing still and the Jews weren't in the exile.

Thank you for explaining that, it's all very interesting. I remember learning something similar to that, especially the Third Temple.


NOT TRUE!

God promissed the land to the children of Jacob and only to them.

Oh okay, well see above about Abraham... Is that not in the Torah?


There's no such sentence in the Bible.

Yes, you are right, that was just my own thought, probably wrong. ^^

The Pagan Romans made from a dead Jew a God/Son of God. He won't come back. He is burried for 2000 years and will stay like that.

Awwww I have to say I hope you are wrong about this one, hehe...^^

Anyone who protect Israel will be blessed. So bless be you.

Jews aren't Jesus's people. Jesus didn't have any people.

USA didn't always supported Israel. In fact, in the first years Israel got most of her help from France and from Europe. In the Yom Kippur war (1973) Israel had tp beg to president Nickson to send an Air Supply of weapons to Israel in order to win the war, he refused, his people said that he was drunk at that time and didn't function at all. Only in the last minute he agreed to sent this help.

USA lied to Israel in the Jonathan Polard case. Israel signed with USA on an agreement in which USA will supply intelligence that she will collect on a certain issues regarding Arab countries. Jonathan Polard who was working in the USA navy intelligence saw that USA didn't provide that data to Israel in the opposite of their promise.

USA helps Israel a lot but Israel depends only on herself.

Ahh that is also very interesting, thanks. And yes, Israel does well. I just hope we never become enemies with y'all or that would be very bad.


There's no such thing as "Chirstians". Christians are Noachides who betrayed the 7 laws of Noach.

http://www.bneinoach.org/news.php

Christians, Muslims, Jedi, Realists etc are all the children of Noach (so the Jews by the way) and as children of Noach they are obligated to the 7 laws that God gave to Noach and his family after the big flood.

Jews killed a Jewish criminal who later on the Pagan Romans turned him to God/son of God.

How do you know that Jesus said that? How do you know that Jesus was a son of God? The Pagan Romans took a sentence of a prophecy of the Israeli prophet Isiah who said that "The young girl is pregnant" and turn it to "The virgin is pregnant".

Yes, I heard that virgin may have been mistranslated from young girl, hmmm.


Your grandmother is a smart lady.

Yes she is, and she is very Christian and taught me a lot in church growing up.


He wasn't Christ/God/son of God. Your ancestors made him to be so!

He was a Jewish criminal and we rejected him in the same way that you reject criminals there in America.

Oh ok. Again I have to say I hope you are wrong. Can you imagine God making all of us and then only letting a certain group of people into His kingdom? Maybe we could both be right, and Jesus came to give us Gentiles a chance. ^_^ Maybe He will be the one to rebuild the temple, we'll just have to wait and see. (btw, if that's blasphemous I'm very sorry, and really don't mean to upset you...not sure...)

Have a great day!

Thank you, you too!

Oh yes, what is the prophesy about 2 false Messiahs?

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

The roots of European anti-Semitism are based in the medieval Church's prohibition of moneylending for interest, which they defined as "usury". Of course, you combine this with forbidding Jews from owning land... and you end up with a situation that they're the only people allowed to own banks, and owning banks was nearly the only thing they were allowed to do.

Can you think of anyone a poor landowner hates more than the man holding his mortgage?

 

[Gibberish]

You're joking, right?

Not at all. I live in San Diego and travel to L.A. and San Fransisco quite often, I know a lot of liberals. Everyone I have had discussions with are for Israel defending itself from those that wish to exterminate them from the existence.

 

[1069]

The roots of European anti-Semitism are based in the medieval Church's prohibition of moneylending for interest, which they defined as "usury". Of course, you combine this with forbidding Jews from owning land... and you end up with a situation that they're the only people allowed to own banks, and owning banks was nearly the only thing they were allowed to do.

Can you think of anyone a poor landowner hates more than the man holding his mortgage?

Well, there you have it.
That makes perfect sense.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Firstly, Southern Belle, I commend you on an intelligent, inquisitive, genuine, non-racist post, inquiring about Judaism.

I think there are several reasons that some Christians hate Jews.

1. Jealously. Jewish traditions often stress excelling both academically and professionally, leading to Jews often getting ahead of others.

2. Fear. Many Christians, especially in the Bible Belt and Midwest, know few if any Jews. It is often human nature to fear what we don't know. And like other animals, humans will often show aggression and hate towards those they fear.

3. Evangelical interpretation of the New Testament. This interpretation often blames Jews for the death of Christ, causing those who believe this to hate those who killed their Savior.

4. Historically, defiance of Jews to worship the monarchs of kingdoms. This often brought on much persecution. Monarchs were seen as divine and were worshipped. As Jews only recognized God as divine, they were often oppressed because of this, a behavior that has become traditional in some cultures.

5. Scapegoats. Often to make up for their own failings, cultures or groups look for scapegoats so they don't need to take responsibility for their own shortcomings. Or to blame others in order to unite a group against a common enemy, creating strenght in that group. Jews get targetted because of many of the above reasons and because Jews have often been pacifists.

6. Challenging faith. Again, often with religious extremists, Jewish beliefs create the possiblity that the Evangelical faith could be wrong. This challenge could create a question of faith and, perhaps, disenchantment with the Church. Portraying Jews as evil and hating them protects faith and keeps both membership and money coming in.

Also, comments like those from The face of Jacob aren't helpful. Devaluing another religion, which is what he did in many of his comments towards Christianity, Jesus Christ, and the New Testament, only creates more animosity and shows a bit of intolerance.

 

[jfuh]

It's quite simple. It's the same reasons behind ppl's intolerance of homosexuals and varied races. Insecurity.
They have to feel superior about themselves through the hatred or insult of another sexuality, race, or religion.
The islamic extreemist dispise us because we represent something that would tear down thier monopoly of power - hence insecurity.

 

[Thinker]

Not at all. I live in San Diego and travel to L.A. and San Fransisco quite often, I know a lot of liberals. Everyone I have had discussions with are for Israel defending itself from those that wish to exterminate them from the existence.

The world is a lot larger than three cities in California. You cannot extrapolate
your experiences there to conclude anything about "most liberals".

 

[thenextbesthang]

why do people hate jews? Some people see the jews behind the international banking conspiracy, with the rothchild/rohatyn/soros/morgan bankers conspiring to end national soverignity.

Those 'international jews' get confused with 'national jews'.

Other people don't like em, stemming from the tradition that koryimir said.

Other people don't like em, because they are not a numerous people, and thus they are easily scapegoated by a majority population.

There the whole ''religion thing'', where people of other religions dfon't like each other.

I don't think that its really cause of Jesus being killed; after all, if he wasn't killed, isn't it true that all christians would not be saved in terms of their soul and whatnot?

 

[Spartacus FPV]

I always thought it was due to the demonization of Judas Iscariot by Christians, combined with the crucifixion of their lord. And then theres you're tin foil hat wearing "The secret jew menace controls everything" types...

 

[Adrian]

The roots of European anti-Semitism are based in the medieval Church's prohibition of moneylending for interest, which they defined as "usury". Of course, you combine this with forbidding Jews from owning land... and you end up with a situation that they're the only people allowed to own banks, and owning banks was nearly the only thing they were allowed to do.

Can you think of anyone a poor landowner hates more than the man holding his mortgage?

Bingo! And on top of that, debts could be conveniently erased with the deaths or exiles of money lenders. Historically, you'll find that the primary ringleaders of these frequent cleansings were actually the nobility and royalty who had borrowed all they could in order to fund their wars, castles and lavish lifestyles. Jews who were exiled were frequently forced to surrender all their wealth before leaving the borders. So, as usual, it comes down to money. You still hear the same thing today with "Jew bankers" ruling the world.

 

[Gibberish]

The world is a lot larger than three cities in California. You cannot extrapolate
your experiences there to conclude anything about "most liberals".

Obviously but I would like to hear where you will find more liberals then in California's three biggest cities.

Where are these "most liberals" that are against Israel?

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

3. Will fight the "Wars Of God" in order to restore the greater Israel.

What does thsi mean?

 

[Adrian]

Obviously but I would like to hear where you will find more liberals then in California's three biggest cities.

Where are these "most liberals" that are against Israel?

I don't know about you, but I got reeeeaaaallly uncomfortable when an eerily unified left accused a nation under attack by hundreds of missiles and whose soldiers were being kidnapped of "overreacting." It was also more than a little creepy that they ignored the fact that Hezbollah deliberately launched missiles from heavily populated areas in order to increase their own civilian casualties.

That was when I looked around me at the predominantly liberal company I keep and went, "whoah."

 

[Southern Belle]

Wow, so many things to reply to... Let's see...

Gibberish: Adrian is right. When I wrote that I was thinking about the mini-war with Hesaboula and how some Liberals were saying how Israel shouldn't even be there so if they defended theirselves they were terrorists.

Ivan: I don't know the Jewish version but I can kind of give you the Christian version. After the AntiChrist comes and all his stuff happens, Christ will return and rebuild the Earth and Jeruselem.

Captain Courtesy: Thank you. Oh and I did want to know how Jews feel about Christ, and I'm greatful for TFoJ's answers, I knew it was something like that. ^^

Those are all interesting reasons. In our church we weren't told to hate Jews, they were the ones who talked to God and brought and crusified Jesus, and they rejected him as the saviour but nothing about that we were supposed to hate them.

 

[The face of Jacob]

Also, comments like those from The face of Jacob aren't helpful. Devaluing another religion, which is what he did in many of his comments towards Christianity, Jesus Christ, and the New Testament, only creates more animosity and shows a bit of intolerance.

There are couple of posts that I will reply to in this thread but this post cought my eyes so I'll reply first to it.

I think, CaptainCourtesy, that I'm 100% right and you are 100% wrong in that post of yours because you are doing 2 negative things:

1. Twisting the reality and tell lies and slander the name of the Jews.

2. Criticizing me for telling the truth.

Imagine to yourself that tomorrow a pedophile will be angry about you for criticizing his the pedophilia religion or if tomorrow a rapist will be angry about you for criticizing his rape religion?

How would you feel if tomorrow I'll establish a new religion in the name of Polardism? This new religion of mine is based on the fact that Jonathan Polard was a good man who wanted to help America and the bad Americans didn't believe him and put him into jail thus I'll decide that Polard is 100% pure and we all should worship to him and the ones who aren't then they will go straight to hell? (and we will do as much as we can to help them getting to hell as soon as possible...)

How as an American you would feel about that? How would you feel if I'll be angry about you when you will try to explain that Jonathan Polard was nothing but a traitor who betrayed his work and betrayed the ones who trusted his loyalty?

Jesus was one of us so it's up to us to explain who he was. He was a criminal who was sentenced to death by the Israeli government for trying to instigate the nation of Israel to strange worship. END OFF!

Only years after his death, couple of people invented a stupid theaory which is in the opposite to the words of God in the Torah.

Jesus wasn't God/son of God. To say that he was is equal to say that Superman or Spiderman are helping the American forces in Iraq. God doesn't want human sacrificing, and God said more than once (hundreds of years before Jesus time) that there will be no other testament than the Torah (not to mention all the twisting of the Hebrew texture and the changing words to "show that Jesus was son of God".)

Why wouldn't I criticize Christianity? Christianity caused so much horrible things to the Jews in the last 2000 years. The first thing that a Christian boy or a girl learn is to hate Jews cause they killed "God" and the answers to that is well proved in inquisitions, pogroms and the holocaust which was accepted by the Vatican which cooperate with the Nazis and didn't do nothing. Only people who believe that a wodden pupet is "God" who was killed by the Jews, only these kind of people can do the most horrible things to others.

It's important to say that when I criticize Christianity I'm not criticizing a nation or a race. Criticizing Christianity isn't consider to be a racist commnet cause Christianity is a way of thinking, a false one. It's important to say that when I talk about Christians I'm not talking about the people but about the Christian authority, the Church, the Vatican, the leaders of this organisation, leaders who force millions of Noachides to believe in nonsence and to believe in lies.

Please listen to this, CaptainCourtesy, and please listen well:

Christianity is the biggest lie since the dawn of mankind, the biggest lie.

Christianity is responsible to most of the horrible things in the last 2000 years, why? Because it's based upon lies and racism. Christianity is idol worshipping by all definition and Christianity didn't invent anything. The good things in Christianity are taken from the 7 laws of Noach and from the Torah commandments.

Christianity stole 80% of the Pagan religion, then burned people for practicing it!

In the future there will be no Christianity, this is a promise, I promise you that. Those who believe in the "New Testament" - which is an imaginary book which was written by people we don't know, by their own will, with descriptions that nobody was witnessed to, upon twisting former true holy books, in the opposite of God's words that there will be no other revelation in the world like he did to the children of Israel - those people will abandon this invented religion and will come back to follow the true and the only covenant between God to the humans aka the 7 laws of Noach.

And please remember that!

 

[Rev.]

Let's not forget...

The Jews hated Christians first.

 

[Adrian]

Let's not forget...

The Jews hated Christians first.

Ah yes, I nearly forgot what Jesus taught.

"For whoever hateth ye, return thine hatred twentyfold."

 

[1069]

Let's not forget...

The Jews hated Christians first.

Would you care to expand upon that statement?
Because it's preposterous, on the face of it.