why do you think it's from God?
I could say the exact same thing about the bible...
Now I know, I know you'll have about 10,000 links from confirmation bias echo chambers but your book that you cling so desperately to is in the EXACT same boat.
Can you please stay on-topic.
That's the question.
Who wrote it, and why do you think it's from God?
That's the question.
Who wrote it, and why do you think it's from God?
Because according to Islamic teachings Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم was the last messenger. He received revelation from Allah as did the prophet Moses عليه السلام and Jesus عليه السلام and Abraham عليه السلام. The revelation he received confirm the Torah that Moses عليه السلام received and the Gospel that Jesus عليه السلام received.
If you mean literally, then the revelation was written down by certain scribes. The Quran is a word of God. So it is not text that any human has — or can — put together, but each word is exactly as it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم.
Really the question is, why would you think it isn't from the Abrahamic God.
Khadija | Facts about the Muslims & the Religion of Islam - Toll-free hotline 1-877-WHY-ISLAMThe angel Gabriel came to him during his moment of seclusion and squeezed him very tightly, commanding him to “Read!” three times, although he did not know how. Scared, the Prophet (may the blessings and peace of God be upon him) rushed home to his wife.
At such a vulnerable moment in the Prophet’s (may the blessings and peace of God be upon him) life, Khadija was there to comfort him and reassure him what he experienced was indeed a legitimate occurrence coming from God, and not something of the devil’s work. Thus, she became the first believer in Islam. A’ishah, a later wife of the Prophet (may the blessings and peace of God be upon him) narrated about this same encounter:
“Allah’s Messenger (may the blessings and peace of God be upon him) returned with that experience; and the muscles between his neck and shoulders were trembling until he came upon Khadija and said, ‘Cover me!’ They covered him, and when the state of fear was over, he said to Khadija, ‘O Khadija! What is wrong with me? I was afraid that something bad might happen to me.’
Then he told her the story. Khadija said, ‘Nay! But receive the good tidings! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you, for by Allah, you keep good relations with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, entertain your guests generously and assist those who are stricken with calamities.’”
Really the question is, why would you think it isn't from the Abrahamic God.
I have read the Quran and about the Sunnah of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and I am certain that I have found the truth.But.....where did the Islamic teachings come from?
How do you know it really came from God?
What is?It's because of the ANGEL!
this is not true. The angel Jibril عليه السلام was not violent as you claim. Are you aware of the other times that the angel Jibril is mentioned in the Qur'an or the hadiths?Because......the angel who appeared to Muhammad (which they claim is Gabriel), is nowhere like the angel Gabriel that is described in the Bible.
The angel who appeared to Muhammad was physically violent towards him - so much so that Mohammad was terrified of him.
In all the appearances of Gabriel to people in the Bible - he always reassured them and allayed their fears.
"The greatest of all the angels is Jibreel, upon whom be peace, who was described in the following report:
"From ‘Abdullah ibn Mas‘ood (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) saw Jibreel in his true form. He had six hundred wings, each of which covered the horizon. There fell from his wings jewels, pearls and rubies, only Allah knows about them." It was reported by Ahmad in al-Musnad, and Ibn Katheer said in al-Bidayah that its isnad (chain of narrators) is jayyid (good)."
"Their beauty
Allah said, describing Jibreel, upon whom be peace (interpretation of the meaning):
"He [the Prophet] has been taught by one Mighty in Power, Dhoo Mirrah (free from any defect in body and mind), then he rose and became stable." [53:5-6]
Ibn ‘Abbas said: "‘Dhoo Mirrah means that he has a beautiful appearance." Qutadah said: "He is tall and beautiful.""
Al-Malaa’ikah (Angels) - Islam Question & Answer
I have read the Quran and about the Sunnah of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and I am certain that I have found the truth.
What is? this is not true. The angel Jibril عليه السلام was not violent as you claim. Are you aware of the other times that the angel Jibril is mentioned in the Qur'an or the hadiths?
Qur'an 51:24-28 (interpretation of the meaning):"Have you heard the story of Abrahams honoured guests
When they came to him they said, Peace! He answered, Peace! [saying to himself]. They are strangers
Then he turned quickly to his household, and brought a fatted calf
and placed it before them. Will you not eat? he said
beginning to be afraid of them. But they said, Dont be afraid; and they gave him the good news of a son who would be endowed with knowledge"
Qur'an 19:16-19 (interpretation of the meaning): "Recount in the Book how Mary withdrew from her people to an eastern plac
and kept herself in seclusion from them. We sent her Our angel, who presented himself to her as a full-grown human being
When she saw him, she said, I seek refuge in the compassionate God from you; [do not come near] if you fear the Lord
I am only the messenger of your Lord, he replied. I shall bestow upon you the gift of a son endowed with purity."
What kind of a demon would call a man to call all people to worship Allah, the one God, to believe in His messengers, prophets and revelations, to give charity, establish regular prayer, keep good ties with family, be kind to neighbours, to fast for the sake of Allah, to refrain from major and minor sins, to treat well their families and to race in doing good deeds?
Khadija | Facts about the Muslims & the Religion of Islam - Toll-free hotline 1-877-WHY-ISLAMThe angel Gabriel came to him during his moment of seclusion and squeezed him very tightly, commanding him to “Read!” three times, although he did not know how. Scared, the Prophet (may the blessings and peace of God be upon him) rushed home to his wife.
At such a vulnerable moment in the Prophet’s (may the blessings and peace of God be upon him) life, Khadija was there to comfort him and reassure him what he experienced was indeed a legitimate occurrence coming from God, and not something of the devil’s work.
Thus, she became the first believer in Islam. A’ishah, a later wife of the Prophet (may the blessings and peace of God be upon him) narrated about this same encounter:
“Allah’s Messenger (may the blessings and peace of God be upon him) returned with that experience; and the muscles between his neck and shoulders were trembling until he came upon Khadija and said, ‘Cover me!’ They covered him, and when the state of fear was over, he said to Khadija, ‘O Khadija! What is wrong with me? I was afraid that something bad might happen to me.’
Then he told her the story. Khadija said, ‘Nay! But receive the good tidings! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you, for by Allah, you keep good relations with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, entertain your guests generously and assist those who are stricken with calamities.’”
What kind of a demon would call a man to call all people to worship Allah, the one God, to believe in His messengers, prophets and revelations, to give charity, establish regular prayer, keep good ties with family, be kind to neighbours, to fast for the sake of Allah, to refrain from major and minor sins, to treat well their families and to race in doing good deeds?
Beware of Satan's deceptionBeware of Satan’s Deception
But when the Imam (leader of prayer) begins the prayer, deceives him, and he competes with the Imam (by anticipating him) in bowing (ruku`), prostrating (sujud), straightening up and going down.
This is the deception of Satan, who desires to invalidate his prayer. Then he leaves the mosque, and there is no prayer (accredited) to him.
Another strange thing is that all of the worshippers behind the Imam agree that it is not permissible for anyone to leave the prayer until the Imam does so, all of them wait until the Imam’s tasleem (end of prayer). In spite of this, however, all of them — except as Allah wills— anticipate the Imam in bowing, prostrating, straightening up and going down, due to the deception of Satan, causing them to perform prayer imperfectly, negligently.
It isn't in Satan's nature to lie by spreading God's word... :roll:Why would we assume the devil won't lie......especially, when we know that he is the master of lies?
Would you have followed him if he told you he is the devil and that he wants you to go against Allah?
Islam teaches you to beware of Satan's deceit!
Therefore, it is in your doctrine that Satan is deceitful (the same thing that is taught in the Bible).
Look how Satan can deceive you right in your house of worship! Satan performs his "seeming worship" to Allah!
Beware of Satan's deception
That's why I believe the apparitions of the the spirit who claims to be MARY, is actually demonic!
Behind all the seeming goodness - when you really get into her demands - they're worldly! Narcissistic! All about her.
She doesn't draw people nearer to God............... but actually lures them away from God.
Just because a spirit claims something, and does things that seem good - does not always mean the spirit is from God.
TEST the SPIRIT!
It isn't in Satan's nature to lie by spreading God's word... :roll:
Seeming worship? Did you read what you quoted, because I have no idea how you twisted that into satan seemingly worshipping Allah.
And I showed you how Gabriel in the Qur'an and hadiths, also, shows gentleness — not that this point was on any way decisive since I don't believe in the Bible and what Bible says is irrelevant.Please.....you're side-stepping the issue.
I gave you a clear explanation as to why the angel can't be the same Gabriel of the Bible.
The Biblical Gabriel had a gentleness about him when he appeared to people.post #9
It's not rebuttal. There won't be one until you provide solid evidence for your claim. That way you'll get to do the work that is appropriately yours.How is that a rebuttal to a fact about Mohammad's encounter with the angel?
He was traumatised by that encounter - it terrified him so!
source, please.His first instinct told him the angel was actually from the devil!
He told that to his wife!
it doesn't say what you insinuate.However, his wife managed to convince him that the angel was really from Allah.
Mohammad was really beside himself with fear!
Here is that event. I got it from a Muslim site.
And I showed you how Gabriel in the Qur'an and hadiths, also, shows gentleness — not that this point was on any way decisive since I don't believe in the Bible and what Bible says is irrelevant.
How would I not be "side-stepping" the issue? What exactly is it you want an answer to?
It's not rebuttal. There won't be one until you provide solid evidence for your claim. That way you'll get to do the work that is appropriately yours. source, please. it doesn't say what you insinuate.
*yawn* you have yet to prove that. Why would satan read the bible?Satan can take on the personality of Gabriel! Boy, he reads the Bible too you know.
We're talking about Mohammad's encounter with the angel in that cave. He thought it came from the devil!
*yawn* you have yet to prove that. Why would satan read the bible?
Really the question is, why would you think it isn't from the Abrahamic God.
If that's how he can get your attention - why not? Satan can lie about anything! What happens in between?
He is crafty - just look how he can get others to commit idolatry without them being aware of it!
"seeming," is the keyword. Meaning - it only looks that way.
Read it , and see how he got the congregation members to do a neglectful prayer.
I got that from a Muslim site.
I would like to see your response on post #12. It's the key argument related to the OP.
Mohammad had that experience in the cave, and he thought the angel was from the devil.
:roll:How do you know it's not you that's been deceived?
And I showed you how Gabriel in the Qur'an and hadiths, also, shows gentleness — not that this point was on any way decisive since I don't believe in the Bible and what Bible says is irrelevant.
How would I not be "side-stepping" the issue? What exactly is it you want an answer to?
It's not rebuttal. There won't be one until you provide solid evidence for your claim. That way you'll get to do the work that is appropriately yours. source, please.
it doesn't say what you insinuate.
:roll:
Your response is irrational! The Bible is quite older than Islam!
Furthermore, Muslims claim they worship the same ABRAHAMIC GOD.
Stay on-topic. get in the game.
Bible may be older than Islam, but not the devil, who leads you to false assumptions.
It's not just Muslims who accept the triple whammy of Abrahamic religions. All do, otherwise the term "Abrahamic" wouldn't exist.
Really the question is, why would you think it isn't from the Abrahamic God.