aquapub
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Muddy Creek said:LOL!!!!!
You have created a straw man here which could actually be the rear side of a horse and covered it with manure.
When you present topics like this, do your really think they should be given the dignity of debate?:roll:
doughgirl said:Yes the Republicans have had their share……but so have the donkeys.
I’m still tryin to figure out how Clinton in his last day in office pardoned 140 criminals. One hundred and forty!!!!!
http://www.ericmargolis.com/archives/2001/02/clinton_money_t.php
Then He pardoned the Puerto Rican terrorists…….
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1106506/posts
http://www.virtualboricua.org/Docs/salon01.htm
And the cover-up…
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2001/printer_838.shtml
Interesting…..
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Not so fast. In the case of Jeff Hurley…the ACLU represented the two who raped and killed him.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/949422/posts
And for an organization who stands on their “free speech” tower…
They wanted a gag order placed on the case and the boys parents.
Guess they didnt want to give the parents free speech.
Can you just imagine having your son killed in the way those beasts killed Jeff........to sodomize, shove a rag soaked with gasoline down his throat.....and kill him......chop his body up and put in tupperware containers......and then keep your mouth shut?
aquapub said:Wow. Somebody who gets it.
We are at war in this country...and liberals always seem to be playing for the other side.
Another liberal has allowed another pedophile get off...
FOXNews.com - No Justice in Vermont? - Bill O’Reilly | The O’Reilly Factor
where did those darn liberal side with Criminals? I'll tell ya where. the first two are those nasty guys Dulay and Rove. liberals like people so they would have to love creeps like Rove and Dulay.I know the usual Democrat apologists will try to deny that liberals constantly side with criminals over middle America, so let’s put that one to rest right now…
1) A gigantic spotlight has been shined on two liberal judges in Vermont and Massachutes (largely due to Bill O’Reilly) who recently sentenced one man to 60 days and the other to NO TIME at all, both for child rape. One judge explained his decision by saying he does not believe in punishment anymore. Spoken like a true liberal. These cases are FAR from isolated, but they are the most infamous right now.
FOXNews.com - Worst Judge Award? - Bill O’Reilly | The O’Reilly Factor
2) It is common knowledge that criminals overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. This is why Democrats keep trying to give violent felons the right to vote. In Election 2000 they claimed Al Gore would have won if only violent felons (you know, the people who have proved themselves to have horrible judgment) were allowed to help determine who our representatives were. Of course, Democrats claim that it’s racist to prevent so many blacks from voting-with no mention of the fact that no one forces blacks to commit the violent crimes. Like many, many other things, Democrats play the race card to distract from the appalling reality of what they are advocating, and to camouflage their calculated, self-serving, partisan intent.
But of course, Democrats would never trust a violent ex-felon’s 2nd Amendment rights because…they’ve demonstrated how horrible their judgment is…but we can trust their judgment to pick the leaders of our country.
3) In addition to fighting for the rights of sex-offenders to not be tracked and registered; in addition to arguing in a Kansas City courtroom that a 15 year old boy has a Constitutional right to sleep with grown men; in addition to fighting Jessica’s law; in addition to fighting mandatory minimum sentences for molesters, the ACLU (backed and funded by Democrats-and tax dollars) has now decided to represent, in every single state, NAMBLA-the pro-molestation group-free of charge, in trials all over the country, at a MAXIMUM expense to taxpayers.
Deroy Murdock on ACLU & NAMBLA on National Review Online
4) It is overwhelmingly well-known that those who oppose the death penalty are almost always Democrats (and Bill O’Reilly).
5) Democrats have whined, moaned about and opposed EVERY SINGLE ACTION the president has taken to prevent further terrorist attacks since 9/11. Guantanamo Bay, the Patriot Act, wiretapping terrorist phone calls, taking out a genocidal terror sponsor in Iraq and giving the terrorists a VOLUNTEER MILITARY target instead of a Lower Manhattan CIVILIAN target….EVERY SINGLE THING.
And they haven’t just opposed these things, they’ve used them to incessantly smear Bush and compare him to Hitler. Republicans actually DO something about foreign threats. None of it has been unconstitutional, and the American people overwhelmingly have supported most of the president’s national security decisions-because they are things we should have been doing for the FIRST decade in which Bin Laden was attacking us with impunity. But at that time, we had a criminal-friendly Democrat in office, so we spent that time further tying the hands of the FBI and the CIA instead.
6) Democrats are the ones who made it so that ILLEGAL aliens could come to this country and face no consequences. They are also the reason ILLEGAL aliens qualify for welfare benefits and free healthcare at our expense.
WorldNetDaily: Illegal aliens threaten U.S. medical system
7) Perhaps if sleazy, ambulance-chasing, economy-raping trial lawyers weren’t such a huge source of campaign contributions to Democrats, Democrats wouldn’t constantly give the clients of trial lawyers everything under the sun at taxpayer expense. Trial lawyers give almost exclusively to Democrats.
Trial Lawyers Inc. Health Care
Jim Copland on Trial Lawyers and Election 2004 on National Review Online
Now that we have preemptively put to rest any potential attempts to blur the issue, let’s have an honest discussion about why liberals side with criminals.
Yeah, I saw that on The Factor Friday and last night... I don't understand how the prosecutor and the judge can let that guy off with that type of sentence.
And Vermont has also decided not to pass Jessica's Law for some reason. It appears, at least on the surface, that Vermont is a child predator's paradise. If someone wants to prey on children, you can go to Vermont and not get punishment for it...
I don't see how ANYBODY can defend that sentence or lack thereof..
Liberals have been the primary obstacle to Jessica's Law, Megan's Law, going after NAMBLA, maintaining sex offender registrations...for every measure against pedophiles, there is a liberal in the way.
Liberals are also the ones who started this idiocy about building more jails not being the answer. All they focus on is "fixing" the criminal, rather than admitting that sex offenders don't change and agreeing to permanently get them out of society on their first offense.
I will take your avoidance of the topic as a confirmation that you have no argument.
I completely agree with you. Proof of your argument is Hilary siding with Bush on Iraq.
First, you're talking about the policies associated with liberals, not their lifestyle.The overall answer to your question as to why liberals embed with criminals, is because they're own lifestyle is criminally oriented. They support policies that favor the criminal, i.e. the prevention of capital punsihment for our most evil criminals; the acceptance of and support of abortionists to murder our precious and innocent youth; the continuance of class warfare of pitting the rich against the poor in hopes of evening out the playing field into some sort of socialist (unionized)--(equal rights) state; the need to over tax the rich--thus crippling our economy and further enhancing the welfare/socialist state.
Wouldn't you say that EVERY is a little strong? A Democratic president fought WWI (and refrained from entering as a result of the conservative ideology of isolationism) while a republican congress struck down a treaty that would have helped stabilize Europe. If by the prison guard reference you meant Abu Ghraib, please clarify your position on the release of those photos. I think all people, even Americans, should be held accountable for human rights abuses. By the same token, the President of the United States must act within the confines of the Constitution. I hope you don't mean "constitutional" when you said "frivolous and needless."Liberals probably have no clue that they've been on the side of our enemies in every American war to date--thus their need to undermine our soldiers and war missions by ridiculing our prison guards, and handcuffing our president during war by creating frivolous and needless wiretapping proceedures. Remember how the liberals sided with the Sandanistas (Marxists/Socialists) in South America, while Reagan was helping the Contras by jailing Noreiga?
This is silly. Liberal ≠ Communist.Should be interesting to see the liberal accolades once their hero Castro takes his final dirt nap.
This is silly. Liberal ≠ Communist.
I know the usual Democrat apologists will try to deny that liberals constantly side with criminals over middle America, so let’s put that one to rest right now…
1) A gigantic spotlight has been shined on two liberal judges in Vermont and Massachutes (largely due to Bill O’Reilly) who recently sentenced one man to 60 days and the other to NO TIME at all, both for child rape. One judge explained his decision by saying he does not believe in punishment anymore. Spoken like a true liberal. These cases are FAR from isolated, but they are the most infamous right now.
FOXNews.com - Worst Judge Award? - Bill O’Reilly | The O’Reilly Factor
2) It is common knowledge that criminals overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. This is why Democrats keep trying to give violent felons the right to vote. In Election 2000 they claimed Al Gore would have won if only violent felons (you know, the people who have proved themselves to have horrible judgment) were allowed to help determine who our representatives were. Of course, Democrats claim that it’s racist to prevent so many blacks from voting-with no mention of the fact that no one forces blacks to commit the violent crimes. Like many, many other things, Democrats play the race card to distract from the appalling reality of what they are advocating, and to camouflage their calculated, self-serving, partisan intent.
But of course, Democrats would never trust a violent ex-felon’s 2nd Amendment rights because…they’ve demonstrated how horrible their judgment is…but we can trust their judgment to pick the leaders of our country.
3) In addition to fighting for the rights of sex-offenders to not be tracked and registered; in addition to arguing in a Kansas City courtroom that a 15 year old boy has a Constitutional right to sleep with grown men; in addition to fighting Jessica’s law; in addition to fighting mandatory minimum sentences for molesters, the ACLU (backed and funded by Democrats-and tax dollars) has now decided to represent, in every single state, NAMBLA-the pro-molestation group-free of charge, in trials all over the country, at a MAXIMUM expense to taxpayers.
Deroy Murdock on ACLU & NAMBLA on National Review Online
4) It is overwhelmingly well-known that those who oppose the death penalty are almost always Democrats (and Bill O’Reilly).
5) Democrats have whined, moaned about and opposed EVERY SINGLE ACTION the president has taken to prevent further terrorist attacks since 9/11. Guantanamo Bay, the Patriot Act, wiretapping terrorist phone calls, taking out a genocidal terror sponsor in Iraq and giving the terrorists a VOLUNTEER MILITARY target instead of a Lower Manhattan CIVILIAN target….EVERY SINGLE THING.
And they haven’t just opposed these things, they’ve used them to incessantly smear Bush and compare him to Hitler. Republicans actually DO something about foreign threats. None of it has been unconstitutional, and the American people overwhelmingly have supported most of the president’s national security decisions-because they are things we should have been doing for the FIRST decade in which Bin Laden was attacking us with impunity. But at that time, we had a criminal-friendly Democrat in office, so we spent that time further tying the hands of the FBI and the CIA instead.
6) Democrats are the ones who made it so that ILLEGAL aliens could come to this country and face no consequences. They are also the reason ILLEGAL aliens qualify for welfare benefits and free healthcare at our expense.
WorldNetDaily: Illegal aliens threaten U.S. medical system
7) Perhaps if sleazy, ambulance-chasing, economy-raping trial lawyers weren’t such a huge source of campaign contributions to Democrats, Democrats wouldn’t constantly give the clients of trial lawyers everything under the sun at taxpayer expense. Trial lawyers give almost exclusively to Democrats.
http://www.triallawyersinc.com/healthcare/hc07.html
Jim Copland on Trial Lawyers and Election 2004 on National Review Online
Now that we have preemptively put to rest any potential attempts to blur the issue, let’s have an honest discussion about why liberals side with criminals.
Heck we only side with criminals once in while. The biggest criminals are Bush and Cheney, we democrats only side with them now and then.I know the usual Democrat apologists will try to deny that liberals constantly side with criminals over middle America, so let’s put that one to rest right now…
1) A gigantic spotlight has been shined on two liberal judges in Vermont and Massachutes (largely due to Bill O’Reilly) who recently sentenced one man to 60 days and the other to NO TIME at all, both for child rape. One judge explained his decision by saying he does not believe in punishment anymore. Spoken like a true liberal. These cases are FAR from isolated, but they are the most infamous right now.
FOXNews.com - Worst Judge Award? - Bill O’Reilly | The O’Reilly Factor
2) It is common knowledge that criminals overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. This is why Democrats keep trying to give violent felons the right to vote. In Election 2000 they claimed Al Gore would have won if only violent felons (you know, the people who have proved themselves to have horrible judgment) were allowed to help determine who our representatives were. Of course, Democrats claim that it’s racist to prevent so many blacks from voting-with no mention of the fact that no one forces blacks to commit the violent crimes. Like many, many other things, Democrats play the race card to distract from the appalling reality of what they are advocating, and to camouflage their calculated, self-serving, partisan intent.
But of course, Democrats would never trust a violent ex-felon’s 2nd Amendment rights because…they’ve demonstrated how horrible their judgment is…but we can trust their judgment to pick the leaders of our country.
3) In addition to fighting for the rights of sex-offenders to not be tracked and registered; in addition to arguing in a Kansas City courtroom that a 15 year old boy has a Constitutional right to sleep with grown men; in addition to fighting Jessica’s law; in addition to fighting mandatory minimum sentences for molesters, the ACLU (backed and funded by Democrats-and tax dollars) has now decided to represent, in every single state, NAMBLA-the pro-molestation group-free of charge, in trials all over the country, at a MAXIMUM expense to taxpayers.
Deroy Murdock on ACLU & NAMBLA on National Review Online
4) It is overwhelmingly well-known that those who oppose the death penalty are almost always Democrats (and Bill O’Reilly).
5) Democrats have whined, moaned about and opposed EVERY SINGLE ACTION the president has taken to prevent further terrorist attacks since 9/11. Guantanamo Bay, the Patriot Act, wiretapping terrorist phone calls, taking out a genocidal terror sponsor in Iraq and giving the terrorists a VOLUNTEER MILITARY target instead of a Lower Manhattan CIVILIAN target….EVERY SINGLE THING.
And they haven’t just opposed these things, they’ve used them to incessantly smear Bush and compare him to Hitler. Republicans actually DO something about foreign threats. None of it has been unconstitutional, and the American people overwhelmingly have supported most of the president’s national security decisions-because they are things we should have been doing for the FIRST decade in which Bin Laden was attacking us with impunity. But at that time, we had a criminal-friendly Democrat in office, so we spent that time further tying the hands of the FBI and the CIA instead.
6) Democrats are the ones who made it so that ILLEGAL aliens could come to this country and face no consequences. They are also the reason ILLEGAL aliens qualify for welfare benefits and free healthcare at our expense.
WorldNetDaily: Illegal aliens threaten U.S. medical system
7) Perhaps if sleazy, ambulance-chasing, economy-raping trial lawyers weren’t such a huge source of campaign contributions to Democrats, Democrats wouldn’t constantly give the clients of trial lawyers everything under the sun at taxpayer expense. Trial lawyers give almost exclusively to Democrats.
Trial Lawyers Inc. Health Care
Jim Copland on Trial Lawyers and Election 2004 on National Review Online
Now that we have preemptively put to rest any potential attempts to blur the issue, let’s have an honest discussion about why liberals side with criminals.
Heck we only side with criminals once in while. The biggest criminals are Bush and Cheney, we democrats only side with them now and then.
Be Nice To America Or We'll Bring Democracy To Your Country.
what happened concerning Gore and the 00 election. I thought it was Katherin Harris from the Geb Bush administration in florida that ruined the election and the supreme court deciding the election.rather lame. of course keeping Gore from stealing the 00 Election upsets the dems more than say murdering 3000 people 6 years ago etc
what happened concerning Gore and the 00 election. I thought it was Katherin Harris from the Geb Bush administration in florida that ruined the election and the supreme court deciding the election.
About 10 p.m. EST on December 12, the United States Supreme Court handed down its ruling in favor of Bush by a 7–2 vote that the Florida Supreme Court's scheme for recounting ballots was unconstitutional, as well as a 5-4 United States Supreme Court decision that ended the Florida recounts and allowed Florida to certify its vote. effectively ending the legal review of the vote count with Bush in the lead. Seven of the nine justices cited differing vote-counting standards from county to county and the lack of a single judicial officer to oversee the recount, both of which, they ruled, violated the Equal Protection Clause of the United States Constitution.
Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris became a controversial figure during the Florida election controversyThis ruling stopped the vote recount, allowing Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris to certify the election results. This allowed Florida's electoral votes to be cast for Bush, making him the winner. Seven of the nine Justices agreed that the lack of unified standards in counting votes violated the Constitutional guarantee of equal protection of the laws, but five agreed that there was insufficient time to impose a unified standard and that the recounts should therefore be stopped.
So instead of recounting the votes like has happened in many elections, we got Bush and Cheney. If the courts had not stopped the count Gore would have been president.
Irregularities
"Butterfly ballot"The Florida election has been closely scrutinized since the election, and several irregularities are thought to have favored Bush. These included the Palm Beach "butterfly ballot,""Hanging Chads" which produced an unexpectedly large number of votes for third-party candidate Patrick Buchanan, and a purge of some 50,000 alleged felons from the Florida voting rolls that included many voters who were eligible to vote under Florida law. Some commentators still consider such irregularities and the legal maneuvering around the recounts to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the vote, but as a matter of law the issue was settled when the United States Congress accepted Florida's electoral delegation.
Originally Posted by TurtleDude
of course keeping Gore from stealing the 00 Election upsets the dems more than say murdering 3000 people 6 years ago etc
Grow up. Try actually debating his points, if you can.I completely agree with you. Proof of your argument is Hilary siding with Bush on Iraq.
what happened concerning Gore and the 00 election. I thought it was Katherin Harris from the Geb Bush administration in florida that ruined the election and the supreme court deciding the election.
About 10 p.m. EST on December 12, the United States Supreme Court handed down its ruling in favor of Bush by a 7–2 vote that the Florida Supreme Court's scheme for recounting ballots was unconstitutional, as well as a 5-4 United States Supreme Court decision that ended the Florida recounts and allowed Florida to certify its vote. effectively ending the legal review of the vote count with Bush in the lead. Seven of the nine justices cited differing vote-counting standards from county to county and the lack of a single judicial officer to oversee the recount, both of which, they ruled, violated the Equal Protection Clause of the United States Constitution.
Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris became a controversial figure during the Florida election controversyThis ruling stopped the vote recount, allowing Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris to certify the election results. This allowed Florida's electoral votes to be cast for Bush, making him the winner. Seven of the nine Justices agreed that the lack of unified standards in counting votes violated the Constitutional guarantee of equal protection of the laws, but five agreed that there was insufficient time to impose a unified standard and that the recounts should therefore be stopped.
So instead of recounting the votes like has happened in many elections, we got Bush and Cheney. If the courts had not stopped the count Gore would have been president.
Irregularities
"Butterfly ballot"The Florida election has been closely scrutinized since the election, and several irregularities are thought to have favored Bush. These included the Palm Beach "butterfly ballot,""Hanging Chads" which produced an unexpectedly large number of votes for third-party candidate Patrick Buchanan, and a purge of some 50,000 alleged felons from the Florida voting rolls that included many voters who were eligible to vote under Florida law. Some commentators still consider such irregularities and the legal maneuvering around the recounts to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the vote, but as a matter of law the issue was settled when the United States Congress accepted Florida's electoral delegation.
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