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Why do conservatives value landlords and employers over families?

phattonez

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Especially when landlord profits average 5-15% per year without taking into account property value increases. It's a lucrative field, but families are getting crushed.

Further, wages aren't coming anywhere close to keeping up with the cost of living, not to mention productivity. Are you okay with average people finding it harder to start families and provide for them even though we're supposedly richer?

To what do you have higher loyalty? Obscure economic principles? Or families?

And especially Catholics, if you're not concerned about what's going on, you're directly contradicting Catholic social teaching.
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I do t give preference to either. Property owners have a right to set the price at which they’re willing to rent their property.

What gives you the right to use someone’s property to implement your preferred policy objectives?
 
I do t give preference to either. Property owners have a right to set the price at which they’re willing to rent their property.

What gives you the right to use someone’s property to implement your preferred policy objectives?
If I find you dying of thirst in the desert, am I justified in charging you $500 for it? After all, it's my water.
 
I do t give preference to either. Property owners have a right to set the price at which they’re willing to rent their property.

What gives you the right to use someone’s property to implement your preferred policy objectives?

Same right that grants the government power to tax me to fund unjust wars, I suppose.
 
... and then hold bibles on Sundays.
 
Depends ... how much did that water cost you in the first place?
Lol. The answer is no. It's obviously unjust because the price is way out of line relative to the cost
 
Especially when landlord profits average 5-15% per year without taking into account property value increases. It's a lucrative field, but families are getting crushed.

Further, wages aren't coming anywhere close to keeping up with the cost of living, not to mention productivity. Are you okay with average people finding it harder to start families and provide for them even though we're supposedly richer?

To what do you have higher loyalty? Obscure economic principles? Or families?

And especially Catholics, if you're not concerned about what's going on, you're directly contradicting Catholic social teaching.
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Wages have grown at an average of 3.3% - higher for some of the lower earners; CPI has been running around 2%. I think you have a distorted view of the landlord's business and risks.
 
Wages have grown at an average of 3.3% - higher for some of the lower earners; CPI has been running around 2%. I think you have a distorted view of the landlord's business and risks.
And my chart shows that wages have grown in recent years, but that growth is minuscule relative to 50 years of decreases, especially since the housing costs have risen much more than inflation.
 
Most of us conservatives...especially us landlords...also value families.

Why do whiny pathetic crippled dependent pets that did a **** job of preparing for their lives always believe that their misery is the faulty of someone else?
 
Most of us conservatives...especially us landlords...also value families.

Why do whiny pathetic crippled dependent pets that did a **** job of preparing for their lives always believe that their misery is the faulty of someone else?
How can you say you support families while it is more expensive to raise a family today than it was 50 years ago?

You supposed support isn't real. It's rhetoric. It's meaningless.
 
Most of us conservatives...especially us landlords...also value families.

Why do whiny pathetic crippled dependent pets that did a **** job of preparing for their lives always believe that their misery is the faulty of someone else?

:lamo

Yeah vance, you conservatives and your "family values", which values say that it is a good thing to vote for then tell any lie to defend a serial sex criminal buddy with Epstein, who among other things bragged about walking in on minors in the changing room because he owned the pageant; an arch-bastard who cheated on every last wife he had, the only one sticking on for money despite his apparently horridly lack-luster humping of a porn star.






Family values.

Right.

:lamo
 
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The dirty little secret in this whole thing is the inflation rate. We do not have 1.7% inflation as anyone who goes to the grocery store knows. The method of calculation has been changed to deceive the public.

Alternate Inflation Charts
 
There's always another renter. Basic Capitalism insists the rent must go as high as it possibly can, so long as it still rents.

And for the people priced out of their homes? **** them, they should have had more money. What are they, Communists?

It's the U.S.'s new motto in action: "**** you, I got mine."
 
Same right that grants the government power to tax me to fund unjust wars, I suppose.

Taxing authority is well defined. Interfering in private. Interacts not so much.

Instead of putting the burden on landlords and property owners why don’t we implement housing policy like this on the backs of all taxpayers?
 
If I find you dying of thirst in the desert, am I justified in charging you $500 for it? After all, it's my water.

You and your conscience are free to do whatever you want.

That aside landlords charge what the market will bear.
 
:lamo

Yeah vance, you conservatives and your "family values", which values say that it is a good thing to vote for then tell any lie to defend a serial sex criminal buddy with Epstein, who among other things bragged about walking in on minors in the changing room because he owned the pageant; an arch-bastard who cheated on every last wife he had, the only one sticking on for money despite his apparently horridly lack-luster humping of a porn star.






Family values.

Right.

:lamo

Oh please. You left wing folks sure are able to overlook the sexual exploits of your past Presidents. Funny how I can't remember the democrats complaining about JFK and WJC. Nobody is going to say everything a person does is ok but the primary job is being President and most of us are more concerned with what he is doing now, and not 10 years prior to becoming President. Take a look at the life history and Presidential exploits of those two democrats I mentioned
 
How can you say you support families while it is more expensive to raise a family today than it was 50 years ago?

You supposed support isn't real. It's rhetoric. It's meaningless.
Dood...do you think I create the rules, roles, and fabric of society?

I absolutely support families. In fact I think one of the greatest crimes committed on the black American community has been what the liberals did to black families in rat controlled cities. You arent doing families any favors by destroying their foundations. And if you have ever read anything I have ever written on the levels of social reform that we should be doing in this country you would see know I would make most liberals blush. Now run along...your tired poor me rhetoric is boring the **** out of me.
 
Especially when landlord profits average 5-15% per year without taking into account property value increases. It's a lucrative field, but families are getting crushed.

Further, wages aren't coming anywhere close to keeping up with the cost of living, not to mention productivity. Are you okay with average people finding it harder to start families and provide for them even though we're supposedly richer?

To what do you have higher loyalty? Obscure economic principles? Or families?

Economic principles are not "obscure"...except to the uneducated.
 
Especially when landlord profits average 5-15% per year without taking into account property value increases. It's a lucrative field, but families are getting crushed.

Further, wages aren't coming anywhere close to keeping up with the cost of living, not to mention productivity. Are you okay with average people finding it harder to start families and provide for them even though we're supposedly richer?

To what do you have higher loyalty? Obscure economic principles? Or families?

And especially Catholics, if you're not concerned about what's going on, you're directly contradicting Catholic social teaching.
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Out of curiosity, do you own real estate beyond a personal residence, phattonez? If so, how do you generally rent out property? For free where you cover all expenses? Do you just have your renters cover the utilities and basic costs? A below-market rate?

And if you only own a personal residence, do you rent out rooms for below-market rates to down-on-their-luck families or allow them to dwell in your home for free?
 
And my chart shows that wages have grown in recent years, but that growth is minuscule relative to 50 years of decreases, especially since the housing costs have risen much more than inflation.
But most families haven't been together for fifty years. Your charts are cherry-picking nonsense.
 
There's always another renter. Basic Capitalism insists the rent must go as high as it possibly can, so long as it still rents.

And for the people priced out of their homes? **** them, they should have had more money. What are they, Communists?

It's the U.S.'s new motto in action: "**** you, I got mine."

It goes both ways. Landlords often do not care about their renters' problems. Renters do not care about the costs and duties that landlords have, and seem to assume that landlords do not have a mortgage to pay or costs of maintaining a property that they need to worry about, and that if they own a home they can rent out, they must be rich and can afford the loss.
 
Rent controls usually result in higher rents due to lower supply.
 
If I find you dying of thirst in the desert, am I justified in charging you $500 for it? After all, it's my water.

If that water cost you $499.00 to get, and you had to get a loan to buy that water that you are presently repaying, and you had to file a water license with the county, and you have to maintain the integrity of the water at your own cost, certainly phattonez. No one should blame you for charging that much if they knew what it cost you.
 
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