Why do Conservatives hate the free press? (1 Viewer)

[Marcus Maloy]

They seem to rail endlessly on the "liberal media" whenever a news outlet dares to sport a somewhat reality-leaning bias and call for the collectivization of all independent and media association press under the iron fist of Fox News

Is this because conservatives hate dissent and dream of plunging america into an 11th century theocratic orwellian utopia or because conservatives simply hate the free market thriving under the journalistic integrity of CNN, NBC and the like?

Your thoughts and opinions welcome

 

[Stinger]

They don't. If anyone is trying to censure the press it the liberals. They have tried to get Limbaugh off the air, Dr. Laura, censor conservative speech on campuses and lots more.

Is this because conservatives hate dissent

Sorry but it's the liberal side that wants to shut up the opposition, either through the law or with the hammer of accusing anyone with a different view as racist or homophobic etc.

You mention FOX, when in fact FOX brings the most balanced view to the airways. The other media are all slanted to the left and make no bones about it.

Is this because conservatives hate dissent and dream of plunging america into an 11th century theocratic orwellian utopia or because conservatives simply hate the free market thriving under the journalistic integrity of CNN, NBC and the like?

Just look how the liberal propaganda has fooled you. The whole propaganda campaign against FOX is a perfect example. They can't compete with them so they try to denigrate and deride them on baseless assertion.

 

[Marcus Maloy]

FOX News is a fairly unbalanced biased mouthpiece that seems to only cater to the news needs of gluttonous windbags and anorexic sociopaths and screams for terrorist acts to be performed on the NYT staff for not submitting to the iron fist of the Bush Administration

 

[The Real McCoy]

Seems like most people (those with strong political leanings anyway) don't much agree with the media that puts out information contrary to their particular ideology. Neither side of the spectrum has a monopoly on this behavior.

 

[Obama08]

They don't. If anyone is trying to censure the press it the liberals. They have tried to get Limbaugh off the air, Dr. Laura, censor conservative speech on campuses and lots more.

Well, when you make fun of someones disorder because they are an advocate on stem cell research, that croses the line.
And when you think it's even the slightest bit funny to tell a newspaper that your only regret with Timothy McVeigh is that he didn't blow up The New York times building...well then we have some serious problems.

You mention FOX, when in fact FOX brings the most balanced view to the airways. The other media are all slanted to the left and make no bones about it.

HAHA. Yeah ok.
Back in 2006, when Rick Santorum was still a senator, he held a press conference on a report that claimed "WMD's" had been found in Iraq. The Fox News propaganda machine instantly jumped on it, and the whole week kept reporting "WMD's FOUND!” Curiously, the mainstream media reported the press conference, but stopped reporting anything else about the topic after an Independent report disputed everything Rick Santorum had said stating the "WMD's" were degraded canisters of what use to be chemical weapons from the 1980's Iran/Iraq war. But NO, The FOX NEWS PROPAGANDA MACHINE wen't at it, spewing out lies.

 

[AcePylut]

Here's a good example of the liberal press leanings...

Read...

House passes 9/11 security bill - CNN.com

"The first item on the House Democrats' "100 hours" legislative agenda, a measure to implement some of the recommendations of the 9/11 commission, passed on Tuesday evening."


Ok, and here's what they aren't telling you... The Democrats campaign promise was to enact ALL recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. So you've got another broken campaign promise from the Democrats being touted as some "Democrats are doing what they said they'd d by enacting 'some' of the 9/11 Commission recommendations".

But we don't get that... we get CNN conveniently "forgetting to inform the viewer" that the Democrats promised to enact ALL of the recommendations.

If it were the GOP that made the campaign promise to enact ALL of the 9/11 Commission recommendations, and they only enacted SOME of the 9/11 Commissions, the article would be all about how the GOP "failed their promise to enact ALL the 9/11 recommendations".


That's why you have many non-liberals upset with the press... because, to use a sporting analogy, conservatives not only have to fight the liberals, they have to fight the referee's (press).

 

[Marcus Maloy]

Why are conservative comrades trying to collectivize the media?

 

[Billo_Really]

What do you mean? Conservatives own the media. Most major media outlets are owned by corporations that are completely conservative based. That's why this bullshit about a "liberal media" is a myth.

Keith Olberman is about the only liberal guy out there. Even Howard Stern is conservative (politically speaking).

 

[RightOfCenter]

call for the collectivization of all independent and media association press under the iron fist of Fox News

Can you give an example of this?

On a related note, I've heard biased media tossed around this site every day. Conservatives call CNN the Communist News Network and liberals call Fox News Faux News, but it seems to me the media must actually be balanced if it has both conservatives and liberals scream about.

 

[Stinger]

FOX News is a fairly unbalanced biased mouthpiece that seems to only cater to the news needs of gluttonous windbags and anorexic sociopaths and screams for terrorist acts to be performed on the NYT staff for not submitting to the iron fist of the Bush Administration

Actually it is quite balanced giving a fair hearing to both sides of an issue. Certainly much more so than the NBC's and CBS's and ABC's and CNN's.

You do realize how petty your ranting comes off.

 

[Stinger]

Seems like most people (those with strong political leanings anyway) don't much agree with the media that puts out information contrary to their particular ideology. Neither side of the spectrum has a monopoly on this behavior.

Except that anyone giving a fair hearing to FOX would see both sides as opposed to the obvious no holds barred slant of MSNBC for example.

 

[Marcus Maloy]

Why do you feel an emotional need to attack others friend?

 

[Stinger]

Well, when you make fun of someones disorder because they are an advocate on stem cell research, that croses the line.

So how does that hate the free press? Who was trying to shut down who. And when someone uses the disorder to advance a political cause it becomes the subject of inquirey.

And when you think it's even the slightest bit funny to tell a newspaper that your only regret with Timothy McVeigh is that he didn't blow up The New York times building...

Which was an obvious Joke aimed at a media that regularly attacks him, fair game.

So are you advocating censoring his free speech?

HAHA. Yeah ok.
Back in 2006, when Rick Santorum was still a senator, he held a press conference on a report that claimed "WMD's" had been found in Iraq.

Which has to what with the subject. And since it was accurate........

The Fox News propaganda machine instantly jumped on it, and the whole week kept reporting "WMD's FOUND!”

Yep.

Curiously, the mainstream media reported the press conference, but stopped reporting anything else about the topic after an Independent report disputed everything Rick Santorum had said stating the "WMD's" were degraded canisters of what use to be chemical weapons from the 1980's Iran/Iraq war.

Which was a moot point. The liberal press was merely trying to censor it because it went against their agenda.

But NO, The FOX NEWS PROPAGANDA MACHINE wen't at it, spewing out lies.

Actually the FOX news agency was reporting the story accurately as opposed to the liberal press which was trying to suppress it.

500 undeclared chemical shells was quite a find. You do know that most of the shells we fired from the BB Indianapolis during the first Gulf War were produced during the WW2, so what is your point? Yes they had degraded they had been hidden and not stored properly for several years.

 

[Stinger]

Why do you feel an emotional need to attack others friend?

Who are you talking to, no one is attacking anyone here. Do you think accusing someone of attacks is the way to make you point? In fact in reviewing the post the only attacks seem to be in your post.

 

[Marcus Maloy]

Who are you talking to, no one is attacking anyone here. Do you think accusing someone of attacks is the way to make you point? In fact in reviewing the post the only attacks seem to be in your post.

Are you saying that attacking others who accuse you of attacking others isn't attacking others?

 

[RightOfCenter]

Are you saying that attacking others who accuse you of attacking others isn't attacking others?

Actually attacking others who have already attacked others and will probably attack you could be seen as attacking others even if the attacking of others leads to them attacking yourself in retaliation for an attack on others.

Also, could you please provide a link showing that conservatives want to collectivize media like I asked earlier.

 

[Stinger]

Are you saying that attacking others who accuse you of attacking others isn't attacking others?

I'm saying you're proving you don't have much on any substance to say do you.

 

[Marcus Maloy]

I'm saying you're proving you don't have much on any substance to say do you.

conservatives attack others for attacking others for attacking others while disrupting threads and yet attack others for not having anything of substance despite the facct that conservatives have nothing of substance except attacks

just disgusting

 

[RightOfCenter]

conservatives attack others for attacking others for attacking others while disrupting threads and yet attack others for not having anything of substance despite the facct that conservatives have nothing of substance except attacks

just disgusting

Could you please provide evidence that conservatives want the media centralized? Pretty please?

 

[Marcus Maloy]

Yes;

see conservative hatred of the free media and rabid support of terrorist attacks on the NYT

 

[RightOfCenter]

Yes;

see conservative hatred of the free media and rabid support of terrorist attacks on the NYT

Rabbid support...one guy...this is rabbid support? Please prove this conservative hatred. I'm a conservative and I definitely don't hate free media. So to borrow from one of Lachaen's sayings, "No Proof? False Claim!"

 

[AcePylut]

Look at the free pass the media gave on Kerry during his presidential election campaign, and never called him to task on the following items that he consistently used to "attack" bush.

YouTube - Kerry on Iraq

No sir-ree, no liberally biased media there. LOL.

Or maybe you outta check out RatherBiased.com: Documenting Dan Rather and CBS News and see how anti-'conservative' Dan Rather is... despite all his claims to be a "neutral commentator".

Or lets talk about George Stephanopolous's program on cable news.... yeah, the guy who worked for Clinton for a number of years, and they think they're fooling us into thinking this guys unbiased? poh-lease.

 

[Marcus Maloy]

I find it quite telling that you refer to Ann Coulter as a guy; judging by her protruding adam's apple i'm going to have to agree with you

 

[RightOfCenter]

I find it quite telling that you refer to Ann Coulter as a guy; judging by her protruding adam's apple i'm going to have to agree with you

:lol: See, just because we disagree doesn't mean we can't have a good time!

 

[Marcus Maloy]

Look at the free pass the media gave on Kerry during his presidential election campaign, and never called him to task on the following items that he consistently used to "attack" bush.

YouTube - Kerry on Iraq

No sir-ree, no liberally biased media there. LOL.

Or maybe you outta check out RatherBiased.com: Documenting Dan Rather and CBS News and see how anti-'conservative' Dan Rather is... despite all his claims to be a "neutral commentator".

Or lets talk about George Stephanopolous's program on cable news.... yeah, the guy who worked for Clinton for a number of years, and they think they're fooling us into thinking this guys unbiased? poh-lease.

Why do conservatives ride the emotional rollercoaster when neutral commentators point out that America is not impressed with their violent unholy crusade against the constitution, the iraqi people, the troops, and all that America stands for?