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Why did you vote for Trump?

Why did you vote for Trump?

  • Trump is like a monkey throwing its feces at tourists. It's funny.

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • I support gun rights and Trump will appoint conservative judges

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I support a ban on abortion and Trump will appoint conservative justices

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • I think Trump is the best qualified for the job

    Votes: 12 70.6%

  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .
You speak for yourselves, and you all have one thing in common:

You fear Democrats enough to elect a complete idiot into the oval office so long as he claims to be a Republican. Because anything is better than four more years of Democrat rule. You conveniently ignore that 8 years of Democrat control resulted in economic growth and no one took your guns nor did illegal aliens take over your city and make you learn Spanish.

And now you are finding the shoe on the other foot. Because now thanks to your election of an idiot into the White House and the subsequent disintegration of any chance at unity and rational political discourse, Democrats now fear Republicans enough to elect anyone into the White House who claims to be a Democrat. Because anything is better than four more years of Trump.

This is what comes of voting out of irrational fear of the other side rather than voting for the best candidate.

What nonsense.

It's people like yourself, and quite frankly, most anti-Trumps spout the same identity-politics rhetoric, that people are staying with Trump.
 
Why did you vote for Trump?


Something I seen passed around on facebook.These are some reasons someone might vote for Trump. although some of it applies before the whole covid-19 nonsense.

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1. Trump recently signed 3 bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana.

2. Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch.

3. Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences.

4. Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the 2 years before he was elected.

5. Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal.

6. Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan.

7. Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.

8. Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on Pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information.

9. Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking.

10. Trump signed a bill to require airports to provide spaces for breastfeeding Moms.

11. The 25% lowest-paid Americans enjoyed a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country's highest-paid workers.

12. Low-wage workers are benefiting from higher minimum wages and from corporations that are increasing entry-level pay.

13. Trump signed the biggest wilderness protection & conservation bill in a decade and designated 375,000 acres as protected land.

14. Trump signed the Save our Seas Act which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic & garbage from the ocean.

15. He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down.

16. Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much less providers charge insurance companies.

17. When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance.

18. Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept.

19. In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month.

20. He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.

21. VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.

22. Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.

23. Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, In 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years.

24. Trump signed into a law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.

25. Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.

26. All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays.

27. Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price

28. President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.

29. In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill which enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society.

30. The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.

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31. The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in sentencing of non-violent crimes.

32. Over 90% of those benefitting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans.

33. The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime.

34. Trump increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%.

35. Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs.

36. New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago.

37. Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs.

38. Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments.

39. The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment.

40. Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.


41. President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund.

42. Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure.

43. Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all-time high.

44. More than 7 million jobs created since election.

45. More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.

46. More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election.

47. Trump appointed 5 openly gay ambassadors.

48. Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.

49. Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts.

50. In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking.

51. Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat human trafficking.

52. Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking.

53. Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need.

54. The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases.

55. Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018.

56. The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support.

57. President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code.

58. The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million.

59. The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education.

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60. Under his leadership ISIS has lost most of their territory and been largely dismantled.


61. ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed.

62. Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.

63. Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.

64. Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith.

65. Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism.

66. President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions.

67. Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens.

68. Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea.

69. Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.
70. Withdrew the U.S. from the job killing TPP deal.

71. Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.

72. Okay’ d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.

73. Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed.

74. Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades.

75. Trump secured Billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border.

76. The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.

77. Trump’s DOJ and the Board Of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners.

78. President Trump’s historic tax cut legislation included new Opportunity Zone Incentives to promote investment in low-income communities across the country.

79. 8,764 communities across the country have been designated as Opportunity Zones.

80. Opportunity Zones are expected to spur $100 billion in long-term private capital investment in economically distressed communities across the country.

81. Trump directed the Education Secretary to end Common Core.

82. Trump signed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law.

83. Trump signed measure funding prevention programs for Veteran suicide.

84. Companies have brought back over a TRILLION dollars from overseas because of the TCJA bill that Trump signed.

85. Manufacturing jobs are growing at the fastest rate in more than 30 years.

86. Stock Market has reached record highs.

87. Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.

88. African-American unemployment is at an all-time low.(was until Covid bull****)

89. Hispanic-American unemployment is at an all-time low.


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90. Asian-American unemployment is at an all-time low.

91. Women’s unemployment rate is at a 65-year low.

92. Youth unemployment is at a 50-year low.

93. We have the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded.

94. The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.

95. 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future— the highest ever.

96. As a result of the Republican tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

97. Record number of regulations eliminated that hurt small businesses.

98. Signed welfare reform requiring able-bodied adults who don’t have children to work or look for work if they’re on welfare.

99. Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history.

100. Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone.

101. Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before.

102. Secured $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic

103. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

104. U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high so we are less dependent on oil from the Middle East.

105. The U.S. is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

106. NATO allies increased their defense spending because of his pressure campaign.

107. Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord in 2017 and that same year the U.S. still led the world by having the largest reduction in Carbon emissions.

108. Has his circuit court judge nominees being confirmed faster than any other new administration.

109. Had his Supreme Court Justice’s Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh confirmed.

110. Moved U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

111. Agreed to a new trade deal with Mexico & Canada that will increase jobs here and $$$ coming in.

112. Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.

113. Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices, has agreed to a Part One trade deal with China.

114. Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline.

115. Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments.

116. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act signed into law by Trump doubled the maximum amount of the child tax credit available to parents and lifted the income limits so more people could claim it.

117. It also created a new tax credit for other dependents.

118. In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding increase for the Child Care and Development Fund, providing a total of $8.1 billion to States to fund child care for low-income families.

119. The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit (CDCTC) signed into law by Trump provides a tax credit equal to 20-35% of child care expenses, $3,000 per child & $6,000 per family + Flexible Spending Accounts (FSAs) allow you to set aside up to $5,000 in pre-tax $ to use for child care.

120. In 2019 President Donald Trump signed the Autism Collaboration, Accountability, Research, Education and Support Act (CARES) into law which allocates $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years to help people with autism spectrum disorder and to help their families.

121. In 2019 President Trump signed into law two funding packages providing nearly $19 million in new funding for Lupus specific research and education programs, as well an additional $41.7 billion in funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the most Lupus funding EVER.

122. Another upcoming accomplishment to add: In the next week or two Trump will be signing the first major anti-robocall law in decades called the TRACED Act (Telephone Robocall Abuse Criminal Enforcement and Deterrence.) Once it’s the law, the TRACED Act will extend the period of time the FCC has to catch & punish those who intentionally break telemarketing restrictions. The bill also requires voice service providers to develop a framework to verify calls are legitimate before they reach your phone.

123. US stock market continually hits all-time record highs.
 
Why did you vote for Trump?

There is no deny that Trump is like a monkey throwing feces at tourists.

I would roar with laughter when he did his "act."

It was brilliant! Just brilliant.

His foes had no answer for his juvenile approach to politics.

It never dawned on me that he would not put on his big boy pants if elected.

I was shocked, just shocked as it became clear that the bully 8th grader with failing grades was who he really was!

I never suspected his act was no act at all but really him.

That the deplorables love his ignorance, immaturity and lies also has astounded me.

Always I have respected people who voted other than I.

No more.

Now I see them as Hillary said, deplorable.
 
For some people, they get an ideological reward from it.

Republicans are also very good at convincing the pleb class that their core policies are not responsible for their miserable existence. It's not garbage healthcare, low wages, and lack of opportunities that is making them miserable -- it's the fault of [insert cultural / bigoted grievance]. Democrats are also to blame for have milquetoast solutions if not outright adopting many Republican policies. But lets be clear, the fish rots from the head. This all started when the GOP decided to move away from being an alternative ideology and towards simply being a vehicle for corrupt special interests.
 
Why did you vote for Trump?

I sure as hell didn't. But their reasons were owning the libs and stacking the courts with right-wing judges.
 
Don't pretend that you can speak for Trump voters/supporters.
All one would have to do is to read the thousands of DP posts from Trump resistors since election day to understand why I'm motivated to vote for Trump.
If I had a nickel for every post where a Trump supporter was vehemently and incorrectly tagged with one of the basket of deplorable labels meant to marginalize... It didn't work in the 2016 election cycle, and it sure as hell is not going to work now. Many, some just like you, are slow learners.

Don't insult us.

There it is. The all-give-and-no-take attitude of trump supporters.

You have to understand something. Most if not all trump supporters feel entitled to sling the most vile, disgusting, and untruthful invective against anyone who does not fall in line with their right-wing extremism. But you let one single word of criticism return in their direction, and they go bat**** crazy. They NEVER concede one of the endless numbers of problems with trump, instead responding with denials, deflections, and even more intense venom. And they run to Daddy Trump for emotional support. It's as if they all go, "Come at me, bro!" and when we do, they run home screaming, with tears dripping down their faces, "DADDY!! He hurt me!" Lather, rinse, repeat.
 
People don't vote Trump because they are racist or evil. People vote Trump because they have been thoroughly convinced that Democrats are going to culturally marginalize them, take away everything they care about, and then burn their country to ashes. This is not hyperbole, this is what way too many Republicans honestly believe thanks to the incessant fear mongering of conservative propaganda, and for most of them no amount of rational discourse or historical hindsight can penetrate this desperately held belief.

Democrats would do well to remember this: By far the vast majority of Trump supporters are motivated, first and foremost, by existential dread.

It’s not “fear mongering of conservative propaganda “ that drove us to Trump. It was the words right out of the mouths of Chuckie Schumer, No-mask Nancy, Pencil neck Shifty and the rest of the left wingers.


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People don't vote Trump because they are racist or evil. People vote Trump because they have been thoroughly convinced that Democrats are going to culturally marginalize them, take away everything they care about, and then burn their country to ashes. This is not hyperbole, this is what way too many Republicans honestly believe thanks to the incessant fear mongering of conservative propaganda, and for most of them no amount of rational discourse or historical hindsight can penetrate this desperately held belief.

Democrats would do well to remember this: By far the vast majority of Trump supporters are motivated, first and foremost, by existential dread.

I need to finish your thoughts: add “of liberal ideas


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You speak for yourselves, and you all have one thing in common:

You fear Democrats enough to elect a complete idiot into the oval office so long as he claims to be a Republican. Because anything is better than four more years of Democrat rule. You conveniently ignore that 8 years of Democrat control resulted in economic growth and no one took your guns nor did illegal aliens take over your city and make you learn Spanish.

And now you are finding the shoe on the other foot. Because now thanks to your election of an idiot into the White House and the subsequent disintegration of any chance at unity and rational political discourse, Democrats now fear Republicans enough to elect anyone into the White House who claims to be a Democrat. Because anything is better than four more years of Trump.

This is what comes of voting out of irrational fear of the other side rather than voting for the best candidate. If you get it wrong, you might get an even worse candidate next time.

If Biden wins in November, let's hope Democrats didn't fall into the same trap Republicans did in 2016, or we'll likely be in for yet another idiot in 2024 or 2028 when the rubber-band snaps back to the right.

We did vote for the best candidate, knowing FULL WELL what Trump was/is. That may give you an idea of what we think of your candidates, and you have offered up another just as bad this time. You have inflicted this on us, and we don’t forget.


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It’s not “fear mongering of conservative propaganda “ that drove us to Trump. It was the words right out of the mouths of Chuckie Schumer, No-mask Nancy, Pencil neck Shifty and the rest of the left wingers.


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I would argue those words were filtered through and amplified by fear mongering conservative propaganda. Remember the "horde of illegal invaders" streaming towards the border? Remember the NRA telling you that Democrats are coming for your guns? Remember the "war on Christmas" and the notion that gay people face discrimination as being in favor of "outlawing Christianity?"

The GOP is rife with disinformation. There is plenty on the Democrat side as well, but the GOP has become far worse. Where those on the left who embrace leftist propaganda are often considered extremists by the Democratic Party, those on the right who embrace rightist propaganda are tolerated and even embraced by the Republican Party.

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We did vote for the best candidate, knowing FULL WELL what Trump was/is. That may give you an idea of what we think of your candidates, and you have offered up another just as bad this time. You have inflicted this on us, and we don’t forget.

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Yes. And the reason you believed that Trump was a better candidate than Hillary was because of anti-Hillary propaganda disseminated by the GOP and by the Russian government. You were tricked into voting for the worse candidate. Not to say that Hillary was fantastic, but she was by far a better candidate than Donald Trump, and would have made a much better president. Maybe she wouldn't have been great, but at least she wouldn't have been as bad as Donald Trump.
 
I would argue those words were filtered through and amplified by fear mongering conservative propaganda. Remember the "horde of illegal invaders" streaming towards the border? Remember the NRA telling you that Democrats are coming for your guns? Remember the "war on Christmas" and the notion that gay people face discrimination as being in favor of "outlawing Christianity?"

The GOP is rife with disinformation. There is plenty on the Democrat side as well, but the GOP has become far worse. Where those on the left who embrace leftist propaganda are often considered extremists by the Democratic Party, those on the right who embrace rightist propaganda are tolerated and even embraced by the Republican Party.

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Yes. And the reason you believed that Trump was a better candidate than Hillary was because of anti-Hillary propaganda disseminated by the GOP and by the Russian government. You were tricked into voting for the worse candidate. Not to say that Hillary was fantastic, but she was by far a better candidate than Donald Trump, and would have made a much better president. Maybe she wouldn't have been great, but at least she wouldn't have been as bad as Donald Trump.

No, because I watched the Bitch while stationed in Washington, and then read all about her "activities". We got what we needed, it certainly wasn't her.
 
I think the only way I'd vote for Trump was if he was running against a giant asteroid that had promised to wipe out all life on Earth if it won and that it would miss if Trump won.

Even then it would be a tough choice.
 
People don't vote Trump because they are racist or evil. People vote Trump because they have been thoroughly convinced that Democrats are going to culturally marginalize them, take away everything they care about, and then burn their country to ashes. This is not hyperbole, this is what way too many Republicans honestly believe thanks to the incessant fear mongering of conservative propaganda, and for most of them no amount of rational discourse or historical hindsight can penetrate this desperately held belief.

Democrats would do well to remember this: By far the vast majority of Trump supporters are motivated, first and foremost, by existential dread.

Racism was not on my mind when I voted for Trump. I am so pleased with Trump. Trump will remain the president.
 
I think the only way I'd vote for Trump was if he was running against a giant asteroid that had promised to wipe out all life on Earth if it won and that it would miss if Trump won.

Even then it would be a tough choice.

Millions of Americans support Trump. We know he will win.
 
No, because I watched the Bitch while stationed in Washington, and then read all about her "activities". We got what we needed, it certainly wasn't her.

The "activities" you read about turned out to be disinformation intended to trick you into voting against your own interests, and you fell for it hook line and sinker.
 
Racism was not on my mind when I voted for Trump. I am so pleased with Trump. Trump will remain the president.

I'm sure it wasn't. But I suspect that fear of Democrats was. No? Fear of Hillary Clinton and her child sex ring? Fear of her hit squad who murders people who cross her? Fear of her connection to Obama, the man who was going to take away your guns and outlaw your religion for 8 years running?

I suspect that you are pleased with Trump the way the owner of a badly behaved guard dog who eats the furniture is pleased with the dog when it scares away intruders, yes? You ignore the dog **** around the house and pretend like he doesn't routinely bite your hand because you think he does the one thing you need him to do: You think he scares away those you imagine are out to invade your home and take away your stuff.

But the reality is: No one is creeping around your property looking to steal your stuff and do you harm. Those foreign types that you see in lurid stories on the news aren't represented by the few criminals that hide among them. They aren't coming to steal your jobs and vote Democrat. All you are really doing is living with an animal who bites the hand that feeds him and pisses in your bed. You don't have to admit that to me or anyone else, but if you prefer Republican policies in the future then you had better come to terms with this and at least admit it to yourself.

Don't confuse hostility to policies with danger to the party. Donald Trump is more of an enemy to the Republican Party and the conservative agenda than any Democrat will ever be.
 
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