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Why are US election campaigns so vicious (1 Viewer)

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as a european I cannot understand that. I have followed several US elections very closely and when I compare the demeanor of US candidates towards each other compared to those in our elective process it is almost as night and day in contrast.

I visit sites like "Factcheck" and read the lies not only the candidates spread about their opponents but also publicly funded attack-groups who lie and attack opponents then I wonder how co-operative government is ever achieved. Working together might be a novel idea but in a lot of political systems it works pretty darned good.

Also the money involved is mind-boggling. If all that money were invested into "good" things (you be the judge of what is good here ;) ) and not in TV/radio adds that spread lies and discourse, then the world would be a lot nicer if you ask me.
 
Politicians are like pigs.

Once they have the smell of power they do anything to obtain that.

If they are already in power and are fighting to retain that power (position) then they will do anything that can loosely be termed legal to the status quo.

For a politician the status quo means sticking their hands into the public trough of money, but more than that it also means they are in a job that has enormous benefits, such as Limousine travel, first class seats on jet aircraft, a pension benefit that is almost obscene in it's generosity, likewise a Health plan that is without Co-Pay, they are guarded on all their travels and generally expect to be and are treated as though they are royalty (which they are not).

Every politician, after he / she has been elected forgets that they are merely being appointed to be the peoples representative, the servant of the (collective) people.

For these renumeration's and benefits, wouldn't you also fight tooth and nail.

Oh yes you would.

I too am of European descent, I see exactly the same ridiculous behavior in any and all European country election.

The only difference between EU country's and USA is that the USA politicians spend vast sums of money, and yes that is truly both obscene and corruptive, which explains why the USA gets the type of Government it deserves.
Alas, the rest of the world has to put up with the stupidity of these corrupt and largely inept US Governments.
 
jujuman13 said:
Politicians are like pigs.

Once they have the smell of power they do anything to obtain that.

If they are already in power and are fighting to retain that power (position) then they will do anything that can loosely be termed legal to the status quo.

For a politician the status quo means sticking their hands into the public trough of money, but more than that it also means they are in a job that has enormous benefits, such as Limousine travel, first class seats on jet aircraft, a pension benefit that is almost obscene in it's generosity, likewise a Health plan that is without Co-Pay, they are guarded on all their travels and generally expect to be and are treated as though they are royalty (which they are not).

Every politician, after he / she has been elected forgets that they are merely being appointed to be the peoples representative, the servant of the (collective) people.

For these renumeration's and benefits, wouldn't you also fight tooth and nail.

Oh yes you would.

I too am of European descent, I see exactly the same ridiculous behavior in any and all European country election.

The only difference between EU country's and USA is that the USA politicians spend vast sums of money, and yes that is truly both obscene and corruptive, which explains why the USA gets the type of Government it deserves.
Alas, the rest of the world has to put up with the stupidity of these corrupt and largely inept US Governments.


as opposed ot corrupt and largely inept Euro governments?

Does anyone remember the campaigns in Jamaica-Manley and Seaga I believe were the two candidates (Bob Marley campaigned for one IIRC). Gun battles between opposing camps.

If you want corruption most of the rest of the world is far worse
 
Vicious campaigns are the American way.

It's all the lawyers fault. Blame them. Lawyers. We used to have nice cordial campaigns until everyone got legal. Or para-legal. Damn barristers.

Although, when I was young, I have to admit, I did watch Owen Marshall religously every week. And once I had this strange attraction to Judge Judy.

Forget that last part.

Just remember, it's all the lawyers fault!
 
Billo_Really said:
Vicious campaigns are the American way.

It's all the lawyers fault. Blame them. Lawyers. We used to have nice cordial campaigns until everyone got legal. Or para-legal. Damn barristers.

Although, when I was young, I have to admit, I did watch Owen Marshall religously every week. And once I had this strange attraction to Judge Judy.

Forget that last part.

Just remember, it's all the lawyers fault!

Chill with the lawyer bashing or I am going to sue your sorry arse into the poorhouse:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
Originally posted by Turtledude:
Chill with the lawyer bashing or I am going to sue your sorry arse into the poorhouse
Go ahead! I'm a turnip. You can't get blood out of me.

I'll ex parte your a.s.s into years of continuances and motions. And if that doesn't work, I'll pick a day when you least expect it, and throw you into the "well" and watch the bailiff kick your a.s.s while I'm eating popcorn.

And if that doesn't work, I excuse juror no. 4.
 
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Billo_Really said:
Go ahead! I'm a turnip. You can't get blood out of me.

I'll ex parte your a.s.s into years of continuances and motions. And if that doesn't work, I'll pick a day when you least expect it, and throw you into the "well" and watch the bailiff kick your a.s.s while I'm eating popcorn.

And if that doesn't work, I excuse juror no. 4.

Hmmmm-DENNY CRAIN!!!!!!
 
Having been propositioned by a well defined and uptown prostitute one evening, a successful single gentleman agreed to have consensual sex with the young lady for the sum of $500.00. After the evening ended the gentleman handed the young lady $250.00. The prostitute immediately demanded the balance and threatened to sue if she didn't get it. "That's a laugh!" the man stated, "I'd like to see you try." A few days later the man was surprised to receive a summons ordering him to appear in court as a defendant in a lawsuit. The man hurried to his lawyer's office and explained the details of the case. His lawyer said, "She can't possibly get a judgment against you on such grounds, but it will be interesting to see how she presents her case." After the usual preliminaries, the parties appeared in court ready for trial.

The prostitute's lawyer addressed the court first, "Your Honor, my client, this lady here, is the owner of a piece of property, a garden spot surrounded by a profuse growth of shrubbery, which property she agreed to rent to the defendant for a specific length of time for the sum of $500.00. The defendant obtained exclusive possession of the property, using it extensively for the purpose for which it was rented. However, upon evacuating the premises, he paid only one-half of the amount agreed upon. The rent was not excessive since it is restricted and exclusive property and we ask that judgment be granted for plaintiff and against defendant in the amount of $250.00.

The defendant's lawyer, thrown back by what he had just heard, pondered the opening remarks for a moment and stood to present his off-the-cuff version of the case, "Your Honor, my client agrees that the young lady has a fine piece of property, and that he rented such property for a period of time, and that he even derived a degree of pleasure from the transaction. However, my client found a well on the property upon which he placed his own stones, sunk a shaft, and erected a pump. All equipment belonging to my client and all labor being performed by him. We allege that these improvements to the property were sufficient to effect an offset of the unpaid portion of rent and further allege that the plaintiff was adequately compensated for the fair market rental value of such property. We, therefore, ask that judgment not be granted for plaintiff and that the defendant be awarded his attorney's fees and costs incurred in the defense of this frivolous action."

The prostitute's lawyer replied, "If it pleases the court your Honor, my client agrees that the defendant did find a well on the property, and that he made the improvements to the property as alleged. However, had the defendant not known the well existed, he would have never rented the property. Furthermore, upon evacuating the premises, the defendant removed the stones, pulled out the shaft, and took the pump with him. In doing so, he not only dragged his equipment through the well-manicured shrubbery, but left the well with a hole much larger than it was prior to his occupancy, making it easily accessible to small children, thereby creating a possible danger to the health and general welfare of the public. We, therefore, ask that judgment be granted as requested in the complaint.

Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $250.00!
 
Rammstein said:
as a european I cannot understand that. I have followed several US elections very closely and when I compare the demeanor of US candidates towards each other compared to those in our elective process it is almost as night and day in contrast.

I visit sites like "Factcheck" and read the lies not only the candidates spread about their opponents but also publicly funded attack-groups who lie and attack opponents then I wonder how co-operative government is ever achieved. Working together might be a novel idea but in a lot of political systems it works pretty darned good.

Also the money involved is mind-boggling. If all that money were invested into "good" things (you be the judge of what is good here ;) ) and not in TV/radio adds that spread lies and discourse, then the world would be a lot nicer if you ask me.

Smear campaigns work. Look at the last two presidential elections.
 
Iriemon said:
Smear campaigns work. Look at the last two presidential elections.

The biggest smear campaign-funded by the convicted felon Soros- failed
 
Lawyers will screw you everytime!

Turtl1.jpg


:rofl
 
A couple of lawyers are out hunting in the woods when one of them suddenly falls to the ground. He doesn't seem to be breathing, and his eyes are rolled back in his head. The other lawyer quickly pulls out his cell phone and calls 911 for help. "911, state the nature of your emergency," says the emergency operator. "My friend is dead! What can I do?" gasps the lawyer. "Just take it easy. I can help you," the operator says calmly. "First, let's make sure he's dead." There's a short pause, then a shot is heard. The lawyer's voice comes back to the line and hurriedly asks, "OK, now what?"
 
Captain America said:
Lawyers will screw you everytime!

Turtl1.jpg


:rofl


LOL-getting kind of personal there:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
I thought you'd appreciate that. :mrgreen:
 
Captain America said:
I thought you'd appreciate that. :mrgreen:

Nothing like some good turtle porn:mrgreen:
 
Is why they are so vicious is simple. As long as Politicians can keep
"Dumb" Americas fighting with eachother over less important issues
those Americans will never band together and demad that their "Politicians"
do a good Job!

American Politicans love this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No matter how bad they screw over Amdricans or how bad of a job they do,
They just have to point out why the other party is worse or just as bad.
An the Dumb Americas fall for that trick every time. (It's been going on
for decades)
 

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