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Why are the the far right against NATO and the EU?

Fan of Charles Lindbergh are you or his modern successor with the orange skin?



Don't know why you bother. I'm not interested in debate with a dishonest poster

You continuing to respond shows, quite clearly, that your claims are drivel.

But then again, that’s pretty standard for you 😂
 
Didn't you know the system sends notifications? I usually read the first line and stop bothering because the rest is a pile of poop.

How long are you going to keep responding about how you aren’t going to respond? It’s really quite pathetic.
 
For whose defense? Not for ours. Did you ever see the movie “Battle Los Angeles?” I didn’t see any scenes of Latvian and Montenegran troops flying in to fight the martians.

Let’s be real, this is an imperial American project, it’s purely a benefit for Europe and also provides a lot of sinecures for people with advanced degrees. It’s not a serious defense pact because the main member is under zero risk of invasion
Did you miss the obvious irony when you complain that Latvia and Montenegro did not fly in to help the US during an imaginary war while admonishing readers to "let's be real"
 
that is an old political criticism that both sides are guilty of........................and meaningless
Doesn't matter. We are talking about now.
 
is a piece of string?
I go with the modern meaning.

The modern meaning still ends up in the same view which is an isolationist America. I'm curious what you see are the differences between when Lindbergh shouted "America First" as part of his isolationist stance?

Have you got a link to the modern meaning that YOU use as your yardstick please?
 
Republic > Democracy > Socialism > Communism > Naziism(Zelensky). If you were paying attention 7 or 8 years ago, you knew.
 
is a piece of string?


The modern meaning still ends up in the same view which is an isolationist America. I'm curious what you see are the differences between when Lindbergh shouted "America First" as part of his isolationist stance?

Have you got a link to the modern meaning that YOU use as your yardstick please?

Still desperately babbling along I see.
 
Did you miss the obvious irony when you complain that Latvia and Montenegro did not fly in to help the US during an imaginary war while admonishing readers to "let's be real"
The obvious point is that there is no scenario in which any of these countries could ever be of material support to the United States in an event where the American nation is threatened by invasion. The purpose of nato is not to be an alliance, that’s the sales pitch, but it’s actually a way of aggravating Russia and Serbia by placing ourselves as a rival ideological empire. And it’s of no benefit at all to Americans
 
Oh, just little things , like survival of democracy, etc
Democracy is alive and well in the US...at least, it will be once we get rid of the corruption in our own government.

In any case, NATO doesn't have a mandate to ensure the "survival of democracy"...especially in countries that are not part of NATO.
 
Democracy is alive and well in the US...at least, it will be once we get rid of the corruption in our own government.
Oh----and you have a plan to rid this nation of corruption that has existed for the last 230 years??? Pray tell......
In any case, NATO doesn't have a mandate to ensure the "survival of democracy"...especially in countries that are not part of NATO.
You think that once NATO is gone that Democracy will survive more than a few weeks????
 
Oh----and you have a plan to rid this nation of corruption that has existed for the last 230 years??? Pray tell......
I don't, but someone else does.


You think that once NATO is gone that Democracy will survive more than a few weeks????
Yes.
 
Why are the the far right against NATO? Isn't a pan Western organization a good thing for defense?


Because Biden and the 'filthy dems' are for it.

"Wedge politics. In the US every issue is a wedge issue.

And 'perception'. Constant bashing leads to a sub conscious connection to 'not good' at the name.

Global politics are supplanted with local, gut level hate politics, God forbid anyone in MAGA thinking "well he DID get one thing right."
 
Sure: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda

There's nothing "isolationist" there.

Well, you're right there, it's actually worse than Lindbergh's America First. The whole thing about restricting voting rights / etc. I just read up the America First Policies group set up by Trump and the plan to sack anyone who doesn't tow the line and replace them with loyalists is a power grab that matches Orban's strangulation of democracy in Hungary.

Whatever floats your boat.


 
Why are the the far right against NATO? Isn't a pan Western organization a good thing for defense?
Did you like WWI, WWII, which also brought about the rise of communist regimes?
 
The obvious point is that there is no scenario in which any of these countries could ever be of material support to the United States in an event where the American nation is threatened by invasion. The purpose of nato is not to be an alliance, that’s the sales pitch, but it’s actually a way of aggravating Russia and Serbia by placing ourselves as a rival ideological empire. And it’s of no benefit at all to Americans

Only one NATO country has invoked the defence from threat clause, and that was the USA, Several NATO members lost troops in providing a figleaf for the US adventure/invasion of Afghanistan.
 
Well, you're right there, it's actually worse than Lindbergh's America First. The whole thing about restricting voting rights / etc. I just read up the America First Policies group set up by Trump and the plan to sack anyone who doesn't tow the line and replace them with loyalists is a power grab that matches Orban's strangulation of democracy in Hungary.

Whatever floats your boat.




America First Policies was not set up by Trump.

It's not about "anyone who doesn't tow the line". It's about anyone who is corrupt.

But hey...whatever floats your boat.
 
Only one NATO country has invoked the defence from threat clause, and that was the USA,
I’m sorry your left wing prime minister decided to entertain an obvious lie, since Afghanistan never attacked America, but you people were happy to do it because you joined Iraq without even the NATO pretense
Several NATO members lost troops in providing a figleaf for the US adventure/invasion of Afghanistan.
Yes, it’s equally wrong that poor working class folk from Europe died alongside poor Americans for a cause that never benefitted them.
 
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