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Why are Pundits saying Putin is suddenly acting unstable? History says different!

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Putin became the President of Russia in 1999. He did so after a long career as a KGB operative.
Here's just a portion of his history since taking control.

1999: He ordered a ground offensive in the second invasion of Chechnya. This occurred after the first war 1994-1996 and the Second Chechen War lasted 2000-2009.
2006: Putin linked to assassination of critic Litvinenko.
2008: Putin ordered forces to invade Georgia.
2014: Putin ordered the takeover of Crimea, a portion of Ukraine. Russians also occupied portions of Donetsk and Luhansk.
2015: Putin ordered military intervention in Syria to help Assad maintain control.
2016: Putin linked to the interference in elections in both the U.S. and France.
2018: Putin linked to the assassination of a former Russian spy, caused by radioactive poisoning.
2019: Putin is linked to assassination of former Chechen militant in Berlin.
2020: Putin is linked to poisoning and attempted murder of opposition leader and former Russian Presidential candidate Alexei Navalny. Navalny is currently in prison in Russia.
2022: Putin odrered the invasion of Ukraine.

Doesn't sound like a sudden period of instability, more like a murderous and calculating dictator who has long used extreme tactics. The West has long underestimated and neglected dealing strongly with Putin.
 

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Well, you should probably look at what they're actually saying. That'd be a much better way of rebutting it than simply saying he must be stable because he kills people and invades places without, y'know, inspecting any of the reasons they have given for their statement.

In fact, I'm pretty sure the reasons were discussed explicitly in multiple threads right here on DP. Stuff like his kinda unhinged and ranty sounding justification speech. The business of meeting with not only foreigners but other Russian officials at the end of a big ass table, as if he's afraid of being stabbed or poisoned. Etc.
 

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Well, you should probably look at what they're actually saying. That'd be a much better way of rebutting it than simply saying he must be stable because he kills people and invades places without, y'know, inspecting any of the reasons they have given for their statement.

In fact, I'm pretty sure the reasons were discussed explicitly in multiple threads right here on DP. Stuff like his kinda unhinged and ranty sounding justification speech. The business of meeting with not only foreigners but other Russian officials at the end of a big ass table, as if he's afraid of being stabbed or poisoned. Etc.
That post reeked of admiration
 

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Well, you should probably look at what they're actually saying. That'd be a much better way of rebutting it than simply saying he must be stable because he kills people and invades places without, y'know, inspecting any of the reasons they have given for their statement.

In fact, I'm pretty sure the reasons were discussed explicitly in multiple threads right here on DP. Stuff like his kinda unhinged and ranty sounding justification speech. The business of meeting with not only foreigners but other Russian officials at the end of a big ass table, as if he's afraid of being stabbed or poisoned. Etc.
I just don't think Putin is all of a sudden "unstable". He has a plan, he is trying to execute it. He wants to be the strongest nation in the world and he's working at it. He might well be unstable but he's been that way a long long time. That's all I'm saying, this is not a sudden state of his sanity, he's always been a bad dude.
 

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Well, you should probably look at what they're actually saying. That'd be a much better way of rebutting it than simply saying he must be stable because he kills people and invades places without, y'know, inspecting any of the reasons they have given for their statement.

In fact, I'm pretty sure the reasons were discussed explicitly in multiple threads right here on DP. Stuff like his kinda unhinged and ranty sounding justification speech. The business of meeting with not only foreigners but other Russian officials at the end of a big ass table, as if he's afraid of being stabbed or poisoned. Etc.
Yup.
 

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Putin became the President of Russia in 1999. He did so after a long career as a KGB operative.
Here's just a portion of his history since taking control.

1999: He ordered a ground offensive in the second invasion of Chechnya. This occurred after the first war 1994-1996 and the Second Chechen War lasted 2000-2009.
2006: Putin linked to assassination of critic Litvinenko.
2008: Putin ordered forces to invade Georgia.
2014: Putin ordered the takeover of Crimea, a portion of Ukraine. Russians also occupied portions of Donetsk and Luhansk.
2015: Putin ordered military intervention in Syria to help Assad maintain control.
2016: Putin linked to the interference in elections in both the U.S. and France.
2018: Putin linked to the assassination of a former Russian spy, caused by radioactive poisoning.
2019: Putin is linked to assassination of former Chechen militant in Berlin.
2020: Putin is linked to poisoning and attempted murder of opposition leader and former Russian Presidential candidate Alexei Navalny. Navalny is currently in prison in Russia.
2022: Putin odrered the invasion of Ukraine.

Doesn't sound like a sudden period of instability, more like a murderous and calculating dictator who has long used extreme tactics. The West has long underestimated and neglected dealing strongly with Putin.
I agree

The difference now is Putin actually believes his own BS. That does not make him unstable, but dangerous.

Some of the statements, it's obvious Russia has colonial ambitions in an age when colonization is in the rear view mirror.
 

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Putin became the President of Russia in 1999. He did so after a long career as a KGB operative.
Here's just a portion of his history since taking control.

1999: He ordered a ground offensive in the second invasion of Chechnya. This occurred after the first war 1994-1996 and the Second Chechen War lasted 2000-2009.
2006: Putin linked to assassination of critic Litvinenko.
2008: Putin ordered forces to invade Georgia.
2014: Putin ordered the takeover of Crimea, a portion of Ukraine. Russians also occupied portions of Donetsk and Luhansk.
2015: Putin ordered military intervention in Syria to help Assad maintain control.
2016: Putin linked to the interference in elections in both the U.S. and France.
2018: Putin linked to the assassination of a former Russian spy, caused by radioactive poisoning.
2019: Putin is linked to assassination of former Chechen militant in Berlin.
2020: Putin is linked to poisoning and attempted murder of opposition leader and former Russian Presidential candidate Alexei Navalny. Navalny is currently in prison in Russia.
2022: Putin odrered the invasion of Ukraine.

Doesn't sound like a sudden period of instability, more like a murderous and calculating dictator who has long used extreme tactics. The West has long underestimated and neglected dealing strongly with Putin.

Yep. I posted this same thing several times.
 

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Putin became the President of Russia in 1999. He did so after a long career as a KGB operative.
Here's just a portion of his history since taking control.

1999: He ordered a ground offensive in the second invasion of Chechnya. This occurred after the first war 1994-1996 and the Second Chechen War lasted 2000-2009.
2006: Putin linked to assassination of critic Litvinenko.
2008: Putin ordered forces to invade Georgia.
2014: Putin ordered the takeover of Crimea, a portion of Ukraine. Russians also occupied portions of Donetsk and Luhansk.
2015: Putin ordered military intervention in Syria to help Assad maintain control.
2016: Putin linked to the interference in elections in both the U.S. and France.
2018: Putin linked to the assassination of a former Russian spy, caused by radioactive poisoning.
2019: Putin is linked to assassination of former Chechen militant in Berlin.
2020: Putin is linked to poisoning and attempted murder of opposition leader and former Russian Presidential candidate Alexei Navalny. Navalny is currently in prison in Russia.
2022: Putin odrered the invasion of Ukraine.

Doesn't sound like a sudden period of instability, more like a murderous and calculating dictator who has long used extreme tactics. The West has long underestimated and neglected dealing strongly with Putin.

I agree, to a degree. But now he is threatening nuclear war. Its possible his calculating went wrong and he is not used to that, so its hell to pay. Much like Trump losing. These people are fine until confronted with a challenge that goes beyond their capacity to reason. When that craziness that everyone thought was so brilliant before turns on them.
 
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