No such article exists on Wikipedia. Got a link to the source?
You are right, I forgot all about that 1% of late term abortions in my indignation at the stupidity of the abortion/war chart. Late term abortions are all children that were very much wanted when it was discovered that something was going terribly wrong with either the mother or the fetus.
For when you get off your suspension:
And when birth control fails, or the doctor refuses to perform the tubal ligation?
Where have you been? This is a problem here in the US as well. Women who need to get full hysterectomies due to endometriosis or other conditions are being met with the same resistance if they haven't had a child already.
You will note that @TurboSlayer will never answer these questions, because the answers will undercut his argument. Sadly, there are several other countries that do actually charge women with murder if they have a miscarriage.
I know.
I did not say there's a legal requirement.
None of them forbid a woman from terminating her pregnancy.
Thou shall not kill is pretty straightforward to me. You kill a defenseless child I highly doubt God is going to be happy about his children getting murdered before having the right to be protected by the constitution.
Like this beautiful person
abortionsurvivors.org
Your opponent said "The constitution, does however, say that the state shall at no time deprive anyone of life." I would like to add to your response that the state does not perform abortions - medical personnel do.
Godwin's Law.
It's dishonest. RvW did not kill anyone.
The Bible says nothing about Abortion.
It's the general idea of life saving measures and the preservation of life. Doesn't specifically have to say:
You have to kill the unborn baby to perform the abortion, right?
The Hebrew says " You shall do no murder." Abortion is legal so not murder.
Norma McCorvey would beg to differ. Wasn't she supposed to be the guiding light of how abortion was going to save us from ourselves? What happened????
You are splitting hairs and you know it. This is just semantics people. When you try to pin these people down and inform them that God is angry about it, they use this line. Make no mistake, regardless of what they will tell you or what laws are on the books, they are all based on a lie (see above) so abortion is most definitely murder, 100%. This is just typical damage control. Again, they dehumanize the victims by saying they are not people. How are people supposed to become people if they get murdered first?
Ok, fair enough. You are speaking specifically about someone who the mother attempted to abort, and survived regardless. However, not all abortion survivors are pro-life.Like this beautiful person
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Melissa Ohden’s Story - The Abortion Survivors Network
Now a mother, herself, Melissa Ohden has experienced first-hand what she calls the “intergenerational impact of abortion.” The reality is that abortion doesn’t just impact a woman’s life; it ends a child’s life. It forever changes the lives of everyone it touches, including women, men, extended...
In 1977, Melissa’s biological mother was a 19 year old college student when she had a saline infusion abortion that was meant to end Melissa’s life. Although her biological mother thought that she was less than five months pregnant when she had the abortion, the fact that Melissa survived and weighed almost 3 pounds indicates that her biological mother was much further along in her pregnancy than she realized. In fact, when Melissa obtained her medical records in 2007 that detail the abortion procedure that she survived, one of the first notations by a doctor after she survived was that she looked like she was approximately 31 weeks gestation! Despite the initial concerns that doctors had regarding her ability to survive, and the quality of life she would experience if she did, today Melissa is a healthy 34-year-old woman.
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Was the claim made that RvW killed anyone? I thought the claim was that abortion did.
Your God is angry. He's always angry because He's really not a nice or pleasant God.
You are free to call it murder. But you and your angry God don't get to call the shots for American women. We are free to call it legal abortion.
Calling a fetus a fetus is just simple fact. Calling a fetus a little unborn child is dishonest semantics. It's a fetus.
Abortion is not turning backs on children. On the contrary it is a medical procedure used by women and their families that have determined that now is a very bad time to bring a child into the family for psychological or financial or legal or medical reasons and the child will suffer. Why do you and your God want to create a child that has almost not chance of success as an adult. Do you realize what a horror you are trying to impose on children?
