made, invented, you say potato, I say tomato....Old and wise said:God was not made, he/she was invented by people that need something to lean on.
Ever notice how God is given credit for everything good and the Devil is blamed for everything bad? He was invented by the same people.
Ask? If he/she/it is that advanced, they would have nothing to fear or gain from us, and would most likely be honest about it.Cloud9 said:So how would you know you're encountering God as opposed to a 4D being that's a billion 'years' more advanced than us?
UtahBill said:Ask? If he/she/it is that advanced, they would have nothing to fear or gain from us, and would most likely be honest about it.
Cloud9 said:How would you know you're talking to God as opposed to another being that happens to exist in that realm? It can be a whole race of beings.
We might even serve usefully to them as pets, or an emergency food supply.....:roflCloud9 said:I guess having been born and raised in NY has made me somewhat cynical. I wouldn't discount the possibility of us providing some entertainment value, much like watching my kids play with ants and other bugs.
The Real McCoy said:Personally, I'd like to assume that the creator of the universe is honest and would not try to decieive us. Why else be imprinted with the notions of right and wrong?
Cloud9 said:You missed what I'm trying to say. How would you know that it's Him, as opposed to a 4D being in a world full of 4D beings that's just toying with us. A being that's a billion years more advanced than us.
How would you know?
The Real McCoy said:A God who is simply one of many beings "toying" with us isn't honest but deceptive, which was the point I was trying to make. And all major religions that take the polytheistic stance are long gone and with good reason.
Cloud9 said:I don't see how you can refer to a 4D being as a God.
Cloud9 said:You're a 3D being, if you interacted with 2D beings would you consider yourself to be a God? Would you insist that the 2D beings treat you as a God?
Cloud9 said:I don't automatically assume that a 4D being that's a billion years more advanced than us is God.
Cloud9 said:I no more assume that a being which can split the oceans or disappear on a whim is God than I would assume a magician is really disappearing.
128shot said:well, who Made god?
religion can come up with answers for everything else. Why not this?
Can anyone explain how God got here?
kal-el said:Nobody can make what does not exist.
Before I explain how "God" got here, tell me which "God" we're talking about?
kal-el said:Nobody can make what does not exist.
kal-el said:Good question, well if there is such an entity, he/she has to be in coherence with the laws of physics.
The Real McCoy said:YOU were the one who refered to a 4D being as a God, not me. Now you're just being non-sensical.
Neither do I. I wasn't the one who brought up the "4D being" in the first place.
"Magicians" are illusionists. They have mastered the art of misdirection. There is no misdirection in the nature of the universe and the moral code we all share. Only the misdirection devised by our God-given free will.
Cloud9 said:1. Where did I equate a 4D being to God? What I said was, "So how would you know you're encountering God as opposed to a 4D being that's a billion 'years' more advanced than us?
2. Clearly, the moral code of the 6 billion people on this planet are not one and the same.
The Real McCoy said:1. I misinterpreted what you said, my mistake. But you were wrong in saying I refered to a 4D being as a God.
2. No, the moral code is the same. Whether or not an individual chooses to follow it is a different story.
Cloud9 said:On 1. I'll ask the question again.
"So how would you know you're encountering God as opposed to a 4D being that's a billion 'years' more advanced than us?"
(And I'll add to it) and perform what we perceive to be miracles such as parting the seas, healing the sick, walking on water, reading your mind, knowing your past, etc.?
On 2. What moral code are you referring to? What is the basis of the moral code you're referencing?
UtahBill said:I can't say that God as a being exists, but the concept of God certainly exists. If not, we would not be having this discussion.
Originally posted by The Real Mccoy
More atheistic mindlessness.. tsk tsk tsk
You naively assume God is constrained by the limits of the universe he/she created. I refer you to the painting analogy I used earlier
kal-el said:And who made up the concept of god? O, that's right it was man. A fairy tale cooked up by man.
What? I prefer to think outside the box, and question how we came about, instead of just dumbly beliveing an "omnipotent",magical, entity is behind everything.:2razz:
Oh so I assume, god wasn't created? Dude, something can't come up out of nothing. Everything has to be made of something, if it weren't it wouldn't exist- hence your imaginary man in the clouds!:lol: Can you prove "God" exists. I doubt it. Just like I can't prove he dosen't. That's where faith comes in. But remember, faith requires no evidence, hence the term "blind faith."