Huh? I have not much more use for Romney than I do Gingrich. If you want to start a thread, I will happily explain why. The one thing Romney has over Gingrich is to the best of my knowledge he has no ethics convictions.
Maybe Romney's ass is clean enough that there's no need for long and detailed examination, unlike Newt's. Other than the flip-flopping, Romney maintains a good personal and professional history. He's married to one women, with well adjusted family that supports him. He has held private and public position without needing to resign over ethic charges. Can't say the same for Newt. Plus he doesn't act like a dick in public which seems to come naturally to Newt.
And don't forget he passed Romneycare which makes him a leftwing favorite. No vetting needed.Maybe Romney's ass is clean enough that there's no need for long and detailed examination, unlike Newt's. Other than the flip-flopping, Romney maintains a good personal and professional history. He's married to one women, with well adjusted family that supports him. He has held private and public position without needing to resign over ethic charges. Can't say the same for Newt. Plus he doesn't act like a dick in public which seems to come naturally to Newt.
Well them come on and kick him in the teeth for me, so I know you're fair.Huh? I have not much more use for Romney than I do Gingrich. If you want to start a thread, I will happily explain why. The one thing Romney has over Gingrich is to the best of my knowledge he has no ethics convictions.
1/5 of the country would kill most people's chance to win the Presidency without strong support from other substantial group to offset it like with Obama and the black vote. Mormons are not that big a group to offset it.
1/5 of the country would kill most people's chance to win the Presidency without strong support from other substantial group to offset it like with Obama and the black vote. Mormons are not that big a group to offset it.
That's what they said about Kennedy...
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People can say all they want when they're talking theoretically, but when the real choice is at hand, only a tiny, tiny fraction of Republicans would rather let Obama win than see a Mormon in the white house.
True, and he managed to win by a whisker over a sweaty paranoic named Richard Nixon. And Kennedy was a charismatic, young war hero.
If the Nixon-Kennedy debate had only been on the radio nixon would have been president
So they say.
a vast majority of those who heard the debate said Nixon won-but those who watched it said Kennedy did. That and the vote fraud gave Kennedy an election he really didn't deserve to win
however the Karma backlash was far far nastier than mere balance demanded
Not familiar with any fraud allegations, but I am with the rest of it. As it turns out, the American people may be pretty good at judging a book by its cover -- at least in Tricky Dick's case.
David Broder-major league Nixon Hater (his son Matt was a classmate of mine in college-had a copy of Nixon's resignation letter to Kissinger on his dorm door) noted that it was Nixon's belief that he had been robbed in 1960 that caused his paranoia in 1972 when he crushed McGovern and didn't need to "cheat"Not familiar with any fraud allegations, but I am with the rest of it. As it turns out, the American people may be pretty good at judging a book by its cover -- at least in Tricky Dick's case.
David Broder-major league Nixon Hater (his son Matt was a classmate of mine in college-had a copy of Nixon's resignation letter to Kissinger on his dorm door) noted that it was Nixon's belief that he had been robbed in 1960 that caused his paranoia in 1972 when he crushed McGovern and didn't need to "cheat"
it is undetermined if Nixon knew about the watergate break in before or only after it happened
later dude
True, and he managed to win by a whisker over a sweaty paranoic named Richard Nixon. And Kennedy was a charismatic, young war hero.
That's what they said about Kennedy...
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People can say all they want when they're talking theoretically, but when the real choice is at hand, only a tiny, tiny fraction of Republicans would rather let Obama win than see a Mormon in the white house.
Well, he did strap the family dog to the roof of his car....
But Kennedy did have another substantial group to make up for the anti-Catholic sentiments - the poor and Catholics themselves. We don't know how people will vote for Romney, we only know what they say about Mormons right now. For the life of me, I don't understand why the GOP is so resistant to him.
When? Under what circumstances?
The reporter intended the anecdote that opened part four of the Boston Globe's profile of Mitt Romney to illustrate, as the story said, "emotion-free crisis management": Father deals with minor — but gross — incident during a 1983 family vacation, and saves the day. But the details of the event are more than unseemly — they may, in fact, be illegal.
The incident: dog excrement found on the roof and windows of the Romney station wagon. How it got there: Romney strapped a dog carrier — with the family dog Seamus, an Irish Setter, in it — to the roof of the family station wagon for a twelve hour drive from Boston to Ontario, which the family apparently completed, despite Seamus's rather visceral protest.
Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws specifically prohibit anyone from carrying an animal "in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise, in an unnecessarily cruel or inhuman manner or in a way and manner which might endanger the animal carried thereon." An officer for the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded to a description of the situation saying "it's definitely something I'd want to check out."
And don't forget he passed Romneycare which makes him a leftwing favorite. No vetting needed.
But Kennedy did have another substantial group to make up for the anti-Catholic sentiments - the poor and Catholics themselves. We don't know how people will vote for Romney, we only know what they say about Mormons right now. For the life of me, I don't understand why the GOP is so resistant to him. Given the choice in that line up, I would choose Romney in a heartbeat.
The general "sleeziness" or "weasely" factor that seems to be felt by people of all stripes and colors?
The questionable past stances on things like abortion, health care, and other issues?
The combination of said weasely factor causing distrust that the current change in positions stated by him are sincere?
The just seemingly unlikable personality?
I think a lot of it is just the man seems like a perfect charactiture of a typical sleezy politician and that image and feeling about him erases any belief that he's the least bit sincere in any of his beliefs. Its hard to really rally behind someone like that.
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