HU-210
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Ah, but now you speak of two absolutes, while the properties of truth, tertium datur, may be a multitude. No black and white, but shades of grey. I am not proposing that I know the answer. In fact, I mean not to. I claim to be too humble a being to use logic on something as essential as truth/false, because I believe such elementary properties supercede our mental capabilities.
Most certainly we may pass some degree of judgement on the veracity of facts in the material world, and we can say that some things are likely than others, but as long as (and this in my view will never happen) we are not certain of our environment, we can not pass judgement in it and assume it is a representation of the world.
Can you distinguish between a movie made of a tree, with birds and leaves, and the real thing? The movie is your account of it, while the real thing is the truth. Now, I'm not too sure whether the real truth exists, because there is no way I can be certain of it. Regarding my own thought, no I can not be certain of it.
Descartes said "cogito ergo sum", "I think thus I am" supposing he could simply state 'am', and get away with it. We have no idea what it means to exist. More amusing, we can't imagine what it means to not exist.
However, this all is a repition of what has been said before. Prove that P is either true, or not true.
Mr U
Most certainly we may pass some degree of judgement on the veracity of facts in the material world, and we can say that some things are likely than others, but as long as (and this in my view will never happen) we are not certain of our environment, we can not pass judgement in it and assume it is a representation of the world.
Can you distinguish between a movie made of a tree, with birds and leaves, and the real thing? The movie is your account of it, while the real thing is the truth. Now, I'm not too sure whether the real truth exists, because there is no way I can be certain of it. Regarding my own thought, no I can not be certain of it.
Descartes said "cogito ergo sum", "I think thus I am" supposing he could simply state 'am', and get away with it. We have no idea what it means to exist. More amusing, we can't imagine what it means to not exist.
However, this all is a repition of what has been said before. Prove that P is either true, or not true.
Mr U