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Charles Herzfeld on ARPAnet and Computers
About.com :2rofll:
Why not use DebatePolitics.com as a source ? :lamo
WTF is Mary Bellis ?
>" in fact, we would have been severely criticized had we tried. "< No source and criticized by who Kobie ? The John Birch Society ? :lamo
Who said half? And you fail to answer the aspect that there is a business in keeping people dependent. If mine are conservative then that is news to me. Seems more like simple fact. But, if mine are then yours are without merit completely.
So I assume you're claiming that Herzfeld never said that. Typical.
So ?
What if he did ?
But you used About.Com as being a reliable source that didn't provide any references to back up their claim.
I can back up my claims on About.Com, but where is Hertzfeld ?
(Hertzfeld went public to defend Al Gore and back up that Al Gore invented the internet. :2rofll:
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The interview was WITH the person on About. Deal with it.
Al Gore pushed for funding for the internet. Which is undeniable, and dispels your notion that "liberals were against the internet."
Al Gore | Internet Hall of Fame
Al Gore, for all his faults, is and always will be the one politician that had the most to do with creating the Internet as we know it. Period. Discussion over.
Al Gore pushed for funding the commercializing of the internet after the internet was already in operation by the U.S. military.
I had an IBM PC on my desk by 81 and a year later I had a modem so I could transmit and receive data from other associates around the country.
Kobie, your in the website mentality. You probably don't even know how to use a slide rule. :lamo
Yeah, it's like there's no white Democrats or anything.
Sometimes I wonder if you guys ever read your own posts aloud and realize how ridiculous you sound.
You clearly think I'm much younger than I actually am.
"There is a business in keeping people dependent" is the most asinine conservative talking point out there to date.. What exactly do you mean by "dependent"? Do you mean such things as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment comp., food stamps or all of the above? Do you know that the states are in charge of public aide and medicaid? Do you know that there is such a thing known as the "poverty level"? Do you know how many people in this country live below this poverty level with little or no help at all? I dare not go on…
It is neither liberal nor conservative... people don't want to lose their manner of income.
There is also a business in keeping people in prisons... do you deny that one? Because
if you don't you are the one blinded by politics as I am not implying that it is solely the
Democrats who are in the business of keeping people dependent. It is a business that
is independent of politics but one that the Democrats use. Use is the operative word. I
don't think that it is something that they approve of, necessarily. Just one that they USE.
Bull crap is the operative word here....
1. Comparing prisons to social services is like comparing broccoli to chocolate and makes no sense at all...
2. The Democratic party did not go out and make people poor, they are not in the business of keeping poor people poor...
3. Poor people vote for both parties, not just for Democrats..
4. Where you people get this crap is beyond me--some conservative pundit dishes it out and you guys eat it up and it's not just you personally, but the far right in general.....
How do you know what's on MSNBC so often?
It seems like every day that some prominent talking person from the left is making some racist comment against someone from the right especially on MSNBC.
1. It makes sense in that they are both businesses, not member of opposing food types. So yes, it makes perfect sense.
2. Nobody said that they did and yes, they are: CNN.com - Elections 2006
------ You can CLEARLY see that more uneducated and more poor people vote Democratic than Republican.
3. Obviously... but the numbers don't lie.
4. It is out there for any open and honest person to find.
I am glad I could help open your eyes a bit... will you see though?
1. It makes sense in that they are both businesses, not member of opposing food types. So yes, it makes perfect sense.
2. Nobody said that they did and yes, they are: CNN.com - Elections 2006
------ You can CLEARLY see that more uneducated and more poor people vote Democratic than Republican.
3. Obviously... but the numbers don't lie.
4. It is out there for any open and honest person to find.
I am glad I could help open your eyes a bit... will you see though?
Minority we can leave alone as it is clear why they are voting for Democrats. They vote against white people who built this great country of his concept. Minority have come from underdeveloped and hungry countries, settled here became fat and decided that it would be very well, what would the food, and there was no wites.Do minorities mostly vote Democratic?
Because their on air personalities are so radical (Sharpton, Matthews, Bashir, Maddow, Baldwin) that they appear on other News Networks.....Haven't watched MNSNBC for years......Who wants to watch the lowest rated Network on TV?
You are clearly not looking at "all" the numbers... Do minorities mostly vote democratic? YES...Is everyone who is a minority dependent or uneducated? Of course not... People vote democratic because they are mostly pro choice, pro civil rights, pro voting rights, pro union, pro environment, anti religion in government, pro freedom and yes, they believe in a safety net so that no Americans falls off a cliff and into starvation and homelessness..
Personally, I see racism as an individual trait.
Ding Ding Ding exactly right!
as i said earlier
Id bet every cent I have, every piece of property and every single asset that if you take 25 people from both sides and you could find out if they were factually racist/prejudice the right would have more almost every time.
Now with that said, relating that to the whole group or actual parties would be beyond stupid, there's no real coloration between racism and any official right/left platform. Its an individual thing.
I would never in my wildest dreams meet a righty and assume he is a racist just because they are a righty, just like i would never meet a lefty and assume he isnt just because he's a lefty because that would be idiotic.
They are just people until something proves otherwise.
Talks like this are dumb because its trying to make a determination or connection that isnt there, I have no problem answering the question but im also not stupid enough to think it means anything else than the question.
Do i think there are more racists on the right, yes absolutely
do i think righties are racist, no absolutely not
its like people using stats the wrong way
do i think Shaq is more likely to make more shots than MJ, yes absolutely
do i think Shaq is a better shooter than MJ, no absolutely not
Shaq having a higher FG % doesnt make him a better shot
just like righties having a higher % of racists doesnt make the whole party racist.
the answer, even if its factual is meaningless because its an individual thing not party.
What kind of conversation is this? Whoever said 100%? :roll:
I am CLEARLY looking a the numbers correctly... look at the statistics again. More uneducated and more poor vote Democratic because these people benefit from the social welfare programs that the Democrats provide. Debate that. As it is at the moment, this debate is over since you aren't providing ANYTHING other than opinion.
If you haven't watched MSNBC, don't knock it......
I voted the left. And here's a picture that can explain why.
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Not that it applies to all - but nowadays people who get called "racist" - despite not ever being racist nor even mentioning race - is bad. I'm not saying people of the opposite race of me do it. Sometimes people the same race as me do it too.
I'm not racist, by the way. At all.
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