Who is an immigrant

wolfman24 said:

WOW I mean really WOW

NONE of you got the point of this post and probably never will. You are so hell bent on protecting Duck's ass and ignoring the realities of how this country came to be in order to do it.

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wolfman24 said:

ignoring the realities of how this country came to be in order to do it.

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buck said:

I don't know.. but I suspect the Indians probably wish they had kept their borders more secure and not let the outsiders invade.

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wolfman24 said:

I may be off a few years but if you really look at it the only people who would classify as indigenous are the American (north or south) Indians. they have been here for at least 5000 years.

Most of us have only been here about 150 or so and a few of us as many as 300. That may not qualify.

For one I am proud of being the descendant of German and Czech immigrants and we had enough sense at least on the German side to keep our heritage alive. I can speak the language of my ancestors, I know the town they came from and due to oral history what it looked like decades before I stepped foot in it. I also know the culture and history.

Most Americans can't even tell you who their grandparents were.

The Americans who fought in WWII were the children and grandchildren of immigrants and it was their parents and grandparents who instilled in them the mentality to win that war. The same could be true of the Civil War but on a smaller scale.

If you believe that the US should stand alone in the world look how that has worked for Cuba and China and other like minded countries.

the more you cut yourself off the less freedom you have and the less your standard of living is.

For example; During the Buy America First Binge , CBS ran a piece about "AMERICAN" cars. As it turned out only about 15% was made here.

Here are some things to think about (maybe you care maybe not)

Do you like fruits and vegetables anytime of the year. Isolationism will stop that
Do you like reasonably priced cars or appliances. Isolation will stop that
Do you like exotic cruises or going to Mexico or Canada Isolation will stop that
Do you like the newest or latest techno toys Isolation will stop that

WHY because the more the US turns inward the less other countries will want to deal with us. And if we beat our chests about how great we are it will get worse.

Egypt fell because of its attitude and bravado so did Rome, England, Spain. All you have to do is look how they treated other peoples and nations.

A lot of people will disagree with this but the majority of them have never been outside this country unless it was in the military or on a tour bus And neither of them count.

Do you know why Japan and Germany are so successful in business? they never forgot the lessons they learned from their American occupiers who were teaching them how the better companies in this country worked. We have

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natsb said:

What is this extensive vetting process you mentioned. Other than seeing plenty of claims that it exist, I haven't seen any evidence that it is real. ISIS is in control of the passport office in Syria. Is ISIS doing the extensive vetting?

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