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George Washington, the amount of power that guy could have had and instead left it all is sign of probably the greatest president of all.
FDR changed the nature of the Federal government. Before FDR, it ignored the suffering of the American People at the hands of capitalists. FDR changed that. He put the government on the side of the American People. He leveled the playing field and Americans thrived.
It's really hard to pick one president on his accomplishments unless you are familiar with the majority of their Congress that they had to work with during their term. The president I picked isn't on the list provided. I chose Andrew Jackson because he hated debt and made it a deliberate policy to pay off the national debt entirely -- and succeeded in doing so. He was a Jeffersonian through and through and the smaller the government the better. Ironically he was the father of the modern Democrat party. My how things have changed.
It's really hard to pick one president on his accomplishments unless you are familiar with the majority of their Congress that they had to work with during their term. The president I picked isn't on the list provided. I chose Andrew Jackson because he hated debt and made it a deliberate policy to pay off the national debt entirely -- and succeeded in doing so. He was a Jeffersonian through and through and the smaller the government the better. Ironically he was the father of the modern Democrat party. My how things have changed.
Especially the last 3+ years.It's really hard to pick one president on his accomplishments unless you are familiar with the majority of their
Congress that they had to work with during their term. The president I picked isn't on the list provided.
I chose Andrew Jackson because he hated debt and made it a deliberate policy to pay off the national debt entirely -- and succeeded in doing so.
He was a Jeffersonian through and through and the smaller the government the better.
Ironically he was the father of the modern Democrat party. My how things have changed.
FDR was a "great president" in the sense he accomplished is goals. he also had the most deleterious impact on America since he pissed all over the concept of a limited government. He made the government a malignancy
Personally, probably FDR, but then again, I support Federalism over state's rights, and am not a supporter of the limited government that others are. In a country as large and varied as ours, government needs to be large and varied, too.
However, I would like to put in a plug for one of our more under rated Presidents: Chester A. Arthur. Gotta respect the man. He helped foster civil service reform... even though it alienated him from his party, and it's past manipulation was something that he himself had used to gain power in the past. Doing this showed quite a bit of integrity and bravery, politically, something that we would see very little of in today's world.
A lesser known aspect of our Presidential history. Nice call.Personally, probably FDR, but then again, I support Federalism over state's rights, and am not a supporter of the limited government that others are. In a country as large and varied as ours, government needs to be large and varied, too.
However, I would like to put in a plug for one of our more under rated Presidents: Chester A. Arthur. Gotta respect the man. He helped foster civil service reform... even though it alienated him from his party, and it's past manipulation was something that he himself had used to gain power in the past. Doing this showed quite a bit of integrity and bravery, politically, something that we would see very little of in today's world.
Abraham Lincoln. Ending slavery and preventing a rogue state that would've continued the barbaric practice from seceding is likely the greatest problem this nation has ever faced. Washington is also admirable in a lot of areas, but I'm not going to give the title to someone who supported slavery. The same issue arises with FDR and Japanese internment. Reagan, Clinton, and Wilson shouldn't even qualify for the top nine, let alone number one.
Are you willing to overlook the Trail of Tears for the sake of balancing the budget?
A balanced budget could certainly be done in today's world, sure, but it was a drastically different time in Jackson's day. While revenue was limited compared to today, demands were as well.Just as you pointed out, there are things that all the presidents on that list did that were controversial. I chose Jackson because he showed we could live debt free. He has been the only one to ever do so. And we are paying the price today for not having more like Jackson in regard to spending. You cite those you could not support because of some form of slavery or internment. But national debt the size we now carry enslaves every taxpaying citizen. We are now at the point we struggle to come up with the money just to make interest payments let alone pay it down. And it will be a trail of tears for generations not yet born if something isn't done quickly.
But who has been our greatest President--the thread?
Not bash FDR every time you see his letters .
Has anyone in your family ever benefitted from the New Deal?Keep in mind the "New Deal" that was Roosevelt's hall mark domestic policy.
Actually no. Both my parents died well before they were of age to collect.Has anyone in your family ever benefitted from the New Deal?
Such as with Social Security ?
It helps to remember that debt has always been a choice in the U.S. After the Revolutionary War the states held a debt of around 75-80 million. That was a lot of money back then. They thought about defaulting but decided to consolidate all the state debt. Most politicians back then hated debt the controversy came in how fast they should pay it off. Oh if only we had such an attitude today. Jackson did what most would say was impossible and paid it all off in six years. Back then they also held the constitutional belief of small government but today government has grown so big it can no longer be managed efficiently. Today a balanced budget would only slow down the bleeding. We are headed to 18 trillion in debt and spending is up 101% A train wreck just waiting to happen.A balanced budget could certainly be done in today's world, sure, but it was a drastically different time in Jackson's day. While revenue was limited compared to today, demands were as well.
Actually no. Both my parents died well before they were of age to collect.
My uncles were pretty well off, so I don't know if they took it or not. But are dead regardless.
My grandmother may have, not sure. But she died in1983 at 88 years old. And was clear she disliked the Roosevelts.
I have two aunts that my be collecting SS, one probably. She has been crippled for her whole life. But not in that much contact with her to discuss politics.
The other aunt is a Obama hater to the bone. She is very smart and dedicated lady.
So, anyone that needed. Really needed may have. Any one that didn't, didn't.
So, your point?
You brought up the New Deal.
What was your point ?
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