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Who do you want to win the presidency?

Who do you want to win the presidency?

  • Sanders

    Votes: 14 31.1%
  • Trump

    Votes: 12 26.7%
  • Kasich

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • Clinton

    Votes: 7 15.6%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 22.2%

  • Total voters
    45
I had my worries about Trump as President but I am hearing:

Chris Christie as Attorney General
Rudy Giuliani as Director of Homeland Security OR Solicitor General OR Head of Department of Defense
Ben Carson as Secretary of Health OR Surgeon General
Newt Gingrich as Secretary of the Treasury
Rick Santorum as Secretary of Education

He's putting his ego aside and assembling an "all-star" cast or "dream team" type administration. I wold be very satisfied with this.
 
Public school aren't free...
Not everyone is cut out for college for varies reasons....so the situation between high school and college is quite different. Making it free will not change that.

While US health care cost are high..factor in things like the US does the majority of medical research and development of new drugs and of course, malpractice insurance all that makes the difference in US health care cost. Hospitals passing on EM services to the poor and billing insured patients to make up the different is another factor.
ROTFLMAO :2dance:...Values is code for PC.

Nobody ever said that they were free as in nobody pays for it. Literally nobody. That's something people like yourself bring up because you can't actually formulate an argument against it. It's not just college that should be covered. Sander's plan, for instance, covers trade and technical schools. Why should we just tell high school graduates "Ok, you're on your own, educate yourself and find a job"? The smart countries provide a path for them to get some kind of job training.

The amount of research the US does has absolutely nothing to do with insurance or medical prices. We're paying 2-3 times as much as other industrialized nations when they provide full coverage and we let people die or go into massive debt. Prior to Obamacare we even let insurance companies deny service for any reason to their customers who had insurance with them. That's not really a defensible position.

And no "values" is code for "the American people do not support religious discrimination".

I don't think a dirt poor Latino tiring to escape poverty south of the border is going to jump on any plane any time soon to come to the US to pick oranges. Just saying.

Flights on that short of a distance can cost as little as $100 on a special. You're lying to yourself if you think a physical barrier like a wall is going to keep people out.
 
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Nobody ever said that they were free as in nobody pays for it. Literally nobody. That's something people like yourself bring up because you can't actually formulate an argument against it. It's not just college that should be covered. Sander's plan, for instance, covers trade and technical schools. Why should we just tell high school graduates "Ok, you're on your own, educate yourself and find a job"? The smart countries provide a path for them to get some kind of job training.

The amount of research the US does has absolutely nothing to do with insurance or medical prices. We're paying 2-3 times as much as other industrialized nations when they provide full coverage and we let people die or go into massive debt. Prior to Obamacare we even let insurance companies deny service for any reason to their customers who had insurance with them. That's not really a defensible position.
Sanders has already said plenty of times before that he wants to tax Wall Street speculation in order to pay for students' college tuition.
 
Do you think we should get rid of "free" K-12 education as well? Either you think that only people who can afford an education should get one, or your opposition to K-16 education is completely arbitrary.

While we pay more per person for healthcare than any other nation on earth, do you think poor people should be left to die if they can't afford to see a doctor?

That's a pretty wild belief that is absolutely contradictory with American values.

RabidAlpaca;1065834558[B said:
]Nobody ever said that they were free as in nobody pays for it. Literally nobody.[/B] That's something people like yourself bring up because you can't actually formulate an argument against it. It's not just college that should be covered. Sander's plan, for instance, covers trade and technical schools. Why should we just tell high school graduates "Ok, you're on your own, educate yourself and find a job"? The smart countries provide a path for them to get some kind of job training.

The amount of research the US does has absolutely nothing to do with insurance or medical prices. We're paying 2-3 times as much as other industrialized nations when they provide full coverage and we let people die or go into massive debt. Prior to Obamacare we even let insurance companies deny service for any reason to their customers who had insurance with them. That's not really a defensible position.

Of course you were saying that in the above statement. Your argument is totally delusional and just more of Sanders talk.

And no "values" is code for "the American people do not support religious discrimination".

What? Where did you get that from? Not from any of my posts.

Flights on that short of a distance can cost as little as $100 on a special. You're lying to yourself if you think a physical barrier like a wall is going to keep people out.

Leftist argument...Mexico has a wall on their southern border and they do keep people out.
 
Sanders has already said plenty of times before that he wants to tax Wall Street speculation in order to pay for students' college tuition.

Right...tax rich people who create jobs and drive more businesses overseas. Brilliant!
 
I'm almost to the point where I don't care. It's boils down to how much Hillary irritates me.
 
Sanders has already said plenty of times before that he wants to tax Wall Street speculation in order to pay for students' college tuition.

The only two things that little douche talks about is taxes and entitlements.
 
I don't have any hope of him winning, but I am voting for Gary Johnson this year. Many other Pirates are supporting Jill Stein. I would prefer either of those to any of the Democratic or Republican candidates.
 
This is completely disgusting and you should feel bad as a human being for believing such a thing. And essentially every other first world country provides full coverage to ALL citizens, so this "it's impossible" argument is complete nonsense.

And not being able to afford health insurance in this country = "not wanting to be saved"? Care to explain that?

Have you been to Canada Rabid? Try scheduling an appointment to the doctor. You might have to wait a few months. Here in the United States they accommodate your schedule to go to the hospital. Tomorrow? Next Week, etc. In Canada, land of socialized medicine, options are minimal at best.

In America people fail, people succeed. Such is how capitalism works. In the countries you have mentioned - the majority of people fail and cannot succeed.
 
I don't have any hope of him winning, but I am voting for Gary Johnson this year. Many other Pirates are supporting Jill Stein. I would prefer either of those to any of the Democratic or Republican candidates.

Those are my two options as well. I'm not quite sure which of the two I favor more.

Have you been to Canada Rabid? Try scheduling an appointment to the doctor. You might have to wait a few months. Here in the United States they accommodate your schedule to go to the hospital. Tomorrow? Next Week, etc. In Canada, land of socialized medicine, options are minimal at best.

In America people fail, people succeed. Such is how capitalism works. In the countries you have mentioned - the majority of people fail and cannot succeed.

I live in Germany, among dozens of other nations who have also successfully implemented universal health care. Me, my family and friends all have full coverage for everything and have no problem seeing the doctor or getting the surgery they need. How horrible of a person do you have to be to actually believe that we should let people die in order to strengthen the society? In America even people who have insurance and jobs go bankrupt and can't get the care they need while WE PAY MORE MONEY. How is that strengthening our society?

Of course you were saying that in the above statement. Your argument is totally delusional and just more of Sanders talk.

What? Where did you get that from? Not from any of my posts.

Leftist argument...Mexico has a wall on their southern border and they do keep people out.

So instead of actually addressing anything I've said, you double down with the idiotic idea that you can build a physical wall to keep immigrants out. Yeah, because no immigrants could ever afford a ridiculously cheap airline ticket over the wall, or you know, simply drive over the border like everyone else.

Build a wall to keep the mexicans out and anyone who can't afford it shouldn't get an education at all. You must be a Trump supporter.
 
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I think most of Bernie Sanders' ideas are great. I support free healthcare, free college, paid maternity leave, gay marriage, abortion, marijuana, etc. But I STRONGLY disagree with Bernie Sanders on immigration, and immigration is a very important issues to me. I believe we should enact strict immigration laws to keep America a majority-White nation. So unfortunately, Trump needs to win.

No one, including you, supports free anything. What you support is someone else pay freebies.

If it were truly free, most everybody would support it.
 
Have you been to Canada Rabid? Try scheduling an appointment to the doctor. You might have to wait a few months. Here in the United States they accommodate your schedule to go to the hospital. Tomorrow? Next Week, etc. In Canada, land of socialized medicine, options are minimal at best.

In America people fail, people succeed. Such is how capitalism works. In the countries you have mentioned - the majority of people fail and cannot succeed.

I have yet to find a dentist that isn't booked at least 3 months out, doctors are pretty much the same.
 
At this point, I'll take me.
 
I live in Germany, among dozens of other nations who have also successfully implemented universal health care. Me, my family and friends all have full coverage for everything and have no problem seeing the doctor or getting the surgery they need. How horrible of a person do you have to be to actually believe that we should let people die in order to strengthen the society? In America even people who have insurance and jobs go bankrupt and can't get the care they need while WE PAY MORE MONEY. How is that strengthening our society?

Health care should be adequate not equitable. Those that put more money into the system should get proportionally better treatment right? I am unsure what you are saying.

Those that are poor pay less into the system and are a drain on society.

I do not understand socialism logic. It doesn't make much financial sense. Please enlighten me how our society can function or is better when everyone receives the same health care.
 
So instead of actually addressing anything I've said, you double down with the idiotic idea that you can build a physical wall to keep immigrants out. Yeah, because no immigrants could ever afford a ridiculously cheap airline ticket over the wall, or you know, simply drive over the border like everyone else.

Believe it or not the majority of the American people believe like I do...built the flacking wall.....

Build a wall to keep the mexicans out and anyone who can't afford it shouldn't get an education at all. You must be a Trump supporter.

Like I said before, which you skipped over...not everyone is cut out for college.
You must be either the Queen of Corruption supporter or a Socialist/communism Bernie supporter. Oh!... and an open border supporter to boot.
 
Unfortunately the Constitution Party doesn't have ballot access in Texas. They are still choosing a nominee. THESE are choices I like:

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Counselor and founder of the Alaska Constitution Party

Constitution Party Candidate 2016 J.R. Myers
J.R. Myers
Though born in Montana, J.R. Myers considers Alaska his home, and even sought the governorship of that state before now going for the big chair of President of the United States. He's also chasing two party nominations for the latter goal. He's a conservative fellow and a man of faith, without much for leftists.
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Ordained Minister
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Scott Copeland
An ordained minister and member of the religious Constitution party, Scott Copeland puts God first and believes that Judeo-Christian values are the foundation of the US. He's totally unambiguous, and it's easy to see both the sort of people who will support him, and those by whom he will be opposed.
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Constitution Party Candidate 2016 Chad Koppie
Chad Koppie
A salt-of-the-earth farmer from birth right up to the present day, Chad Koppie is a tried and true conservative. From gun rights to abortion opposition to the importance of faith, there are few surprises in his ideology, making him a good fit for heartland voters.
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I want Trump to win, but that may be impossible.
 
Why stop there? How about free housing, free vehicles, free vacation travel expenses, free groceries?

Free healthcare and free (or very low cost) college are typical attributes of social democracies. They are not unreasonable. Nor are the free, they would require the US to move from one of the lowest tax rates in the 1st world to something more in line with other social democracies.
 
Believe it or not the majority of the American people believe like I do...built the flacking wall.....

Like I said before, which you skipped over...not everyone is cut out for college.
You must be either the Queen of Corruption supporter or a Socialist/communism Bernie supporter. Oh!... and an open border supporter to boot.

No one ever said that everyone should go to college. Literally nobody. I stated multiple times that plans like Sanders' cover trade schools. When you're ready to explain why K-12 education is ok but adding 1-4 years on top of that to ensure American workers are qualified and prosperous, I'll be here.

And no, a wall that you can drive through or fly over is not a solution to America's immigration problem.
 
Vermin Supreme 2016

Great dental plan & free ponies to all Americans.

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No one ever said that everyone should go to college. Literally nobody. I stated multiple times that plans like Sanders' cover trade schools. When you're ready to explain why K-12 education is ok but adding 1-4 years on top of that to ensure American workers are qualified and prosperous, I'll be here.

I wonder how employers will set people apart when everyone is going to college. :coffeepap
 
I wonder how employers will set people apart when everyone is going to college. :coffeepap

At no point did I or anyone else claim everyone should go to college. Trade and tech schools are included. Then again, you're an anarchist so you'd rather just have poor people remain completely uneducated.
 
At no point did I or anyone else claim everyone should go to college. Trade and tech schools are included. Then again, you're an anarchist so you'd rather just have poor people remain completely uneducated.

So everything is free then? Well then, that totally invalidates my point. :lol:
 
I think most of Bernie Sanders' ideas are great. I support free healthcare, free college, paid maternity leave, gay marriage, abortion, marijuana, etc. But I STRONGLY disagree with Bernie Sanders on immigration, and immigration is a very important issues to me. I believe we should enact strict immigration laws to keep America a majority-White nation. So unfortunately, Trump needs to win.

Why is majority white important?

What does "White" even mean?
 
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