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Who do you blame most for the shut-down?

Who do you blame most for the shut-down?

  • Trump

    Votes: 75 78.1%

  • D CongressCritters

    Votes: 21 21.9%
  • Total voters
    96
Hawkeye10 said:
You seem to be lost....what has this to do with this thread?

The answer of course is nothing.
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My point is that the question itself is rhetorical and has no significance or meaning because Trump obviously, and proudly I might add, accepted full responsibility.
 
HumblePi said:
My point is that the question itself is rhetorical and has no significance or meaning because Trump obviously, and proudly I might add, accepted full responsibility.
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Then there is no reason for you to be here.
 
Parrish said:
What a lame retort.
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They asked the question before me, if it is as has been claimed an ignorant question then the Reuters/Ipsos poll people asked an ignorant question.

I was wondering if they do that much.

A very reasonable question.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Then there is no reason for you to be here.
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Well yes, there most certainly is for several reasons. Reason #1 would be because you tell me I have no reason to be. Reason #2 is the fact that I am a member of this forum just as you are and have every right to express my opinion on any topic, any time, as many times as I wish. And finally #3 it's not your right to dictate to me or anyone else that they should or shouldn't comment on any thread.
 
HumblePi said:
Well yes, there most certainly is for several reasons. Reason #1 would be because you tell me I have no reason to be. Reason #2 is the fact that I am a member of this forum just as you are and have every right to express my opinion on any topic, any time, as many times as I wish. And finally #3 it's not your right to dictate to me or anyone else that they should or shouldn't comment on any thread.
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You are being rude now.
 
HumblePi said:
Question; "How do most of the illegal residents in the U.S. get into the U.S.?"

Answer: By obtaining a visa then overstaying their visas.

Question; "Which country has more illegal residents in the U.S. because they have overstayed their visa?"

Answer: Canada

It's a fact that more illegals are here because they've overstayed their visa than illegals coming in through illegal border crossings. visa 'overstays' account for 1/2 of the illegals presently in the U.S.

Canadians top the list of visitors overstaying their visas.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Canadians-top-the-list-of-visitors-overstaying-13150776.php
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*psssssst* Canadians aren't poor brown people. That's why there's no big rush to build a wall on our northern border.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You seem to be lost....what has this to do with this thread?

The answer of course is nothing.
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It has a lot to do with the issue. A wall even if 100% effective will stop less than 50% of the illegal immigration. 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs is to ignorant and narcissistic to realize that fact. Hence is myopic focus on a wall.
 
In America those who blame Trump = 1.4(those who blame D CongressCritters).

On DP those who blame Trump = 4.3(those who blame D CongressCritters).




This is interesting.
 
Hari Seldon said:
It has a lot to do with the issue. A wall even if 100% effective will stop less than 50% of the illegal immigration. 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs is to ignorant and narcissistic to realize that fact. Hence is myopic focus on a wall.
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COme on man there are so many other threads....this thread is about one little thing which is not that.
 
Poor Hawkeye, his own thread isn't working out so well for him.
 
HumblePi said:
Question; "How do most of the illegal residents in the U.S. get into the U.S.?"

Answer: By obtaining a visa then overstaying their visas.

Question; "Which country has more illegal residents in the U.S. because they have overstayed their visa?"


Answer: Canada

It's a fact that more illegals are here because they've overstayed their visa than illegals coming in through illegal border crossings. visa 'overstays' account for 1/2 of the illegals presently in the U.S.

Canadians top the list of visitors overstaying their visas.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Canadians-top-the-list-of-visitors-overstaying-13150776.php
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This is terrible news! We Will Build a Wall on our Northern Border and Canada will pay for it!
 
Serenity said:
Covfefe.

I know words. I have the best words.
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I had MY covfefe cup made special.

COVFEFE_CUP2.jpg
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Are the Reuters/Ipsos poll people known for being ignorant?
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It's possible the Reuters/Ipsos poll people were measuring what percent of the population is ignorant. I think it's been holding steady at about 40% for awhile.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
In America those who blame Trump = 1.4(those who blame D CongressCritters).

On DP those who blame Trump = 4.3(those who blame D CongressCritters).


This is interesting.
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This statement is indecipherable. Please explain. You used to be better.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
That, of course, ignores that Trump ran (campaigned?) on Mexico, not congress or the American public, paying for the Great Wall Of Trump. What Trump really (now?) wants is anything to symbolize an increase in border security. His latest 'deal' seems to be $2.1B in funding for a slatted steel (and pointy-topped?) fence which may replace and/or extend some of the current border barriers - it is far from clear as many instances of TrumpSpeak tend to be.

Even if Trump got $5B to begin building the Great Wall Of Trump tomorrow it would never "seal the border" or do anything about the 12M (to 20M?) illegal immigrants already roaming freely inside the US, the many thousands of foreign nationals (legal or not) arriving daily or those born to them (instant US citizens) while they are here.

The real problem is that we lack any meaningful interior enforcement of federal immigration law and congress is determined to keep it that way - keeping illegal immigration as "an issue" gets them re-elected at a rate of over 90%.
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And that my friend, is why we do not have mandatory E-Verify. And it's also why I'm wary about Trump's anti-illegal hiring stance. He stays silent on E-Verify. Could it be because he uses illegal and guest workers to keep his hotels running? I can't help but wonder ...
 
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