quietrage said:I do not see them crying over the civilian deaths in the Middle East, and if radical muslims did want to kill everyone why is it tha only American allies get attacked. I have not heard of any attacks on the Swiss lately have you??
I am sorry if it sounded like I was justifying the terrorists but the American media makes no mention of civilians killed in Iraq, it is just expected to happen, and there are people who want to kill all muslimsmistermain said:Yeah, but they intentionally hit civilian targets like cowards. Even hardline americans do not want all muslims killed. I agree that all radical muslims are evil and should be destroyed.
Deegan said:Kind of an off balanced question, vauge, and totally designed to fuel an anti-American flame fest.
LOL that is so typical of the kind of people you are illustrating.V.I. Lenin said:You're wrong.
You support terroism.
You hate America.
We should kill you.
What country do you live in? We're gonna bomb it. America hater.
Dirty liberal.
So true. Though lets not forget by the way... we are only talking about 'hardline Americans' here for those that think this is an anti American flame fest. If we generalise then we become the same as those hardliners are themselves, since they thrive on generalisations. Just like the Nazis did... All Jews & slavs are bad etc which we know of course is utter nonsense becuase only 90% of them are ... only kidding :lol:V.I. Lenin said:You know..I don't know. Hardline Muslims tend to be more extreme the hardline Americans. They recruit, they kill, they blow themselves up. Hardline American's support people who SPONSER people to recruit and kill.
TechDad said:I think that the question raises a valid point. Nothing wrong with honest reflection is there. If we (collective US) have a thriving extremist population isn't that something that we should give some attention to as we denounce radical islam?
Deegan said:If that is the purpose of this thread, I would have to see a much better example of this "extremism" then this obvious angry Marine. He speaks the truth, the dangers are real, and while I would not suggest "nuking" the whole of the M.E, I can see through his anger, and assume he is just frustrated. These two obviously have a history, and Robin has used this opportunity to make Gunny out to be a raving lunatic. He has crossed my path before, and I have seen this tactic first hand, I for one am not impressed.
TechDad said:You accussed the question of being posed to elicity anti-american flames but now you are saying that it is a clever attempt to make single poster look like a "raving lunatic". I understand your distrust of a question that you see as an attack against and individual.
Out of curiosity, how willing would you be to see through the anger of a muslim extremist and understand that they are only frustrated. I ask this question because I have heard the sentiment that you expressed before by muslims that I know. Nice guys who love their families. When viewing a young muslim protester burning an american flag they are likely to say that they are surely angry but the danger they are protesting is real and they are just frustrated.
Is it possible that we are more accepting and tolerant of extremists who we have a better understanding of and whose views are closer to our own? Does that make them any less dangerous?
I made an observation about GY that I've made with many Americans. I posted my conclusions. If it's made some angry.. well that's life. If we never posted anything that might upset some people, there wouldn't be much to post becuase whatever one says, there is bound to be someone that doesn't like it.Deegan said:My assumption remains the same, nothing has changed, I only noticed the war of words with the two recently, but make no mistake, this is designed to fan those flames IMO.
TechDad said:You accussed the question of being posed to elicity anti-american flames but now you are saying that it is a clever attempt to make single poster look like a "raving lunatic". I understand your distrust of a question that you see as an attack against and individual.
Out of curiosity, how willing would you be to see through the anger of a muslim extremist and understand that they are only frustrated. I ask this question because I have heard the sentiment that you expressed before by muslims that I know. Nice guys who love their families. When viewing a young muslim protester burning an american flag they are likely to say that they are surely angry but the danger they are protesting is real and they are just frustrated.
Is it possible that we are more accepting and tolerant of extremists who we have a better understanding of and whose views are closer to our own? Does that make them any less dangerous?
robin said:I made an observation about GY that I've made with many Americans. I posted my conclusions. If it's made some angry.. well that's life. If we never posted anything that might upset some people, there wouldn't be much to post becuase whatever one says, there is bound to be someone that doesn't like it.
I stand by what I say. I could probably say the same about hardline Brits or anyone else. I chose that kind of American becuase they seem predomonantly so much more self rightious & arrogant compared to others.
You have to admit Deegan, the similarities are striking are they not ?
I've seen GY advocate preemtive strikes based on the most ridiculous excuses. In fact he's happy to see 30,000 Iraqis killed so far becuase of 3,000 mostly Americans dead in 911 even though Iraq has nothing to do with 911!Deegan said:No, I still think it a stretch to compare Muslim extremists, to Hardline Americans.(That phrase is really much too vauge IMHO) I believe the good Gunny Sarge has the uper hand in this debate, as it was America that was attacked first, not the other way around. The other glaring difference would be the mission, one is to kill the infidel, the other is to protect America, as well as others in the M.E, who have been ruled by religious fanatics for centuries.
You have a few strawman arguments that appear to shttp://www.microsoft.com/isapi/redir.dll?prd=windows98&clcid=&pver=4.10&ar=Microsoft
Microsoftuggest you're correct, but this strikes at the heart of the issue, but nice try though.
robin said:I've seen GY advocate preemtive strikes based on the most ridiculous excuses. In fact he's seen 30,000 Iraqis killed so far becuase of 3,000 mostly Americans dead even though Iraq has nothing to do with 911 !
I know GY would happily bomb Christ knows who to **** just in case they might attack USA. Rather like the Himmler analogy isn't it I gave earlier. "Kill the Jewish children or they will kill us in the future".
The only reason GY didn't wind up herding people into gas chambers is becuase he wasn't born in 1900 & in Germany. Otherwise I'm sure he'd have been a willing participant in the holocaust.
Who mentioned Bush or Hitler ?Calm2Chaos said:Once again comparing President Bush to hitler. Just can't take what you say seriously when you throw stupid shitt like that around.
Calm2Chaos said:Once again comparing President Bush to hitler. Just can't take what you say seriously when you throw stupid shitt like that around.
SKILMATIC said::yt :fueltofir :screwy Yeah how can someone even equivicate pres. Bush to Hitler? This is truly idiocy at its best. Once again liberalism proves to the wolrd that it is a mental disorder.