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Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?

Their heart bleeds: NYT and Rep. Kinzinger answer the ‘Who is Ray Epps?’ question – World Tribune: U.S. Politics and Culture, Geopolitics, East Asia Intelligence, China, Geostrategy, Military, National security, Corporate Watch, Media Watch, North Korea, Iran, Columnists: Dennis Prager, Michelle Malkin, John Metzler, Jeffrey Kuhner, John McNabb, Joe Schaeffer, Bill Juneau, Alexander Maistrovoy, Donald Kirk

by WorldTribune Staff, July 14, 2022

Ray Epps is the only person caught on camera repeatedly directing people to enter the Capitol building. Video of Epps egging on protesters to go into the Capitol was captured on Jan. 5 and Jan. 6, 2021.

The New York Times and anti-Trump Rep. Adam Kinzinger have come to the defense of Epps.

The Times on July 13 published what Revolver News characterized as “a highly sympathetic puff piece” which attempts to write off any talk of FBI involvement in Jan. 6 or of Epps being an asset of the feds as a “conspiracy theory.”

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The proof that Ray Epps set up the conditions for the storm of the Capitol by telling the people to go into it, is impossible to deny. The proof is in the videos. He shall be arrested for inciting the people to go into de Capitol.

Ray Epps - As Soon As Our President Is Done Speaking

Ray Epps - In The 9 oclock hour (Clips)
 
Sandokan said:
Joe Biden administration policies on the economy, energy, international policy, the border, and covid have been rejected by the majority of the public. It has not required that illegal immigrants be tested or vaccinated against covid. But U.S. citizens in the military and employed by the federal government are dismissed if they do not get vaccinated. Millions of illegal immigrants are protected by sanctuary cities after illegally entering the United States.
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doesn't matter.......for Trumpers the only thing that matters is whatever Fox says
 
Where's Ray Epps? - American Thinker

By Ned Cosby
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| June 14, 2022

Since 1987, some of us have spent leisure time asking, "Where's Waldo?," looking for him in crowded cartoons clad in his red and white striped shirt. It passes the time and stimulates the mind. Since January 6, 2021, others have asked, "Where's Ray Epps?"

Asking, "Where's Waldo?" is harmless enough. Asking, "Where's Ray Epps?" might get you the kind of attention no one wants in this post-911 emerging police-state we still call America.

Still, lots of questions are popping up about Ray Epps. On the surface, Ray Epps sounds like a salt-of-the-earth American. He and his wife, Robyn, live in Arizona, where they own two ranches. One of those farms is used as a wedding venue. Records indicate he is a retired Marine and 60 years old. If he were still with us, Norman Rockwell might be tempted to capture Robyn and Ray on their front porch to embellish this updated picture of Americana.

As the owner of two ranches, we get the suggestion that Ray has entrepreneurial blood pumping in his veins. Videos capturing Ray in Washington, D.C. on January 5–6, 2021, show him as a "mover and a shaker."

In one video of Ray Epps taken on the evening of January 5, 2021, Ray is seen wearing a red MAGA baseball cap and exhorting protesters to "go into the Capitol." During the span of Jan. 5–6, 2021, Epps can be seen in several locations between the White House and the Capitol, urging people to enter the People's House. Like the imaginary Waldo, Ray Epps shows up doing his old man impersonation of Ethan Hunt on a Mission: Impossible episode.
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The real January 6th investigation could take place next year when the Republicans get a majority in the House of Representatives. Revolver News has done a great job on Ray Epps participation on January 6th riot. So far the January 6th public hearing Committee, compose of 5 Democrats and 2 RINOS, has not investigated Epps. Relate to Epps is a question about the numbers of FBI informants and possible provocateurs among the Proud Boys and rioters on January 6, which should also be investigated. The Committee, by not investigating him, lost credibility to hold Trump responsible for the rioters action, and reinforce the perception of a cover-up.
 
Ray Epps, a former Arizona Oath Keepers leader, shown numerous times on video with audio the night before and the day of the incursion urging the crowds to riot and enter the Capitol building. The morning of the incursion, he is shown directing a group of men who tore down the fencing that blocked the main entrance to the Capitol building. Epps was identified and located several days later by liberal groups and put on the FBI most-wanted website. A few months later his name was dropped from the wanted list without any explanation. He and those that collaborated with him were never arrested.
 
Sandokan said:
Joe Biden administration policies on the economy, energy, international policy, the border, and covid have been rejected by the majority of the public. It has not required that illegal immigrants be tested or vaccinated against covid. But U.S. citizens in the military and employed by the federal government are dismissed if they do not get vaccinated. Millions of illegal immigrants are protected by sanctuary cities after illegally entering the United States.
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The false equivalencies you people will make. You guys are so unbelievably dishonest.

You do know Trump doesn't love you, right?
 
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Sandokan said:
Ray Epps, a former Arizona Oath Keepers leader, shown numerous times on video with audio the night before and the day of the incursion urging the crowds to riot and enter the Capitol building. The morning of the incursion, he is shown directing a group of men who tore down the fencing that blocked the main entrance to the Capitol building. Epps was identified and located several days later by liberal groups and put on the FBI most-wanted website. A few months later his name was dropped from the wanted list without any explanation. He and those that collaborated with him were never arrested.
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It was an attempted insurrection to support Trump's attempted coup.
 
Sandokan said:
Joe Biden administration policies on the economy, energy, international policy, the border, and covid have been rejected by the majority of the public.
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Please cite your data that proves this assertion.
Do you have anything to back this claim?
 
Sandokan said:
Joe Biden administration policies on the economy, energy, international policy, the border, and covid have been rejected by the majority of the public. It has not required that illegal immigrants be tested or vaccinated against covid. But U.S. citizens in the military and employed by the federal government are dismissed if they do not get vaccinated. Millions of illegal immigrants are protected by sanctuary cities after illegally entering the United States.
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www.fox29.com

Biden tops Trump in hypothetical election rematch, Wall Street Journal poll says

President Joe Biden would lead former President Donald Trump by six points if an election were to happen today.
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09/01/22

"The majority" claiming victimhood led by "I've been treated "worse than any politician in history," (just 6 months after his first claimed landslide election victory) is a tough sell, even for a grifter of his irresistible cult-like attraction!

Trump: No politician 'has been treated worse or more unfairly'​

https://www.politico.com › story › 2017/05/17 › donal...
May 17, 2017 — President Donald Trump warned graduating Coast Guard cadets on Wednesday that life is unfair, sharing an unconventionally gloomy outlook on ...

Link to archived image of this article, https://archive.ph/olBGu

Documents show how Trump landed Lincoln Memorial for Fox ...​

https://www.washingtonpost.com › 2022/08/13 › trump...

Trump’s 2020 ‘town hall’ was held inside the memorial, an area where events have long been barred by federal regulations​

Aug 13, 2022 — Trump's two-hour sit-down with Fox News anchors would take place inside the memorial's main chamber, on the landing in the shadow of the marble ... "In correspondence in the days after the event, about how to respond to reporters’ questions, Litterst made clear to colleagues that he did not want to give the impression that the agency would allow such an event to take place again: “I think it’s a good opportunity to slam the door on anyone who thinks they can make a similar ask to do an interview in the chamber.”



Trump Says He's Been Treated 'Worse' Than Lincoln - Forbes​

https://www.forbes.com › jackbrewster › 2020/05/03
May 4, 2020 — “They always said, 'No one got treated worse than Lincoln,'” Trump said, while pointing up to Lincoln's statue, “I believe I am treated worse.”.

Link to archived image of this article, https://archive.ph/OOigc

Trump-led movement centered in victimhood sees Biden’s speech as attack​

Analysis by Philip Bump
National correspondent
September 2, 2022
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The real insurrectionists are the insurrectionists.
 
Sandokan said:
Joe Biden administration policies on the economy, energy, international policy, the border, and covid have been rejected by the majority of the public. It has not required that illegal immigrants be tested or vaccinated against covid. But U.S. citizens in the military and employed by the federal government are dismissed if they do not get vaccinated. Millions of illegal immigrants are protected by sanctuary cities after illegally entering the United States.
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The Jan 6, 2021 crowd for sure. Election butt hurt is no excuse
 
Sandokan said:
Joe Biden administration policies on the economy, energy, international policy, the border, and covid have been rejected by the majority of the public. It has not required that illegal immigrants be tested or vaccinated against covid. But U.S. citizens in the military and employed by the federal government are dismissed if they do not get vaccinated. Millions of illegal immigrants are protected by sanctuary cities after illegally entering the United States.
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Joe Biden administration policies on the economy, energy, international policy, the border, and covid have been rejected by the majority of the public. It has not required that illegal immigrants be tested or vaccinated against covid. But U.S. citizens in the military and employed by the federal government are dismissed if they do not get vaccinated. Millions of illegal immigrants are protected by sanctuary cities after illegally entering the United States.
 
jaypatriot said:
The following is all you need to know going into 2022.
To Democrats, Trump-haters, and Liberals, nothing else matters.
The Democrats have nothing to offer the country other than more rants about the horrors of January 6th; the threats from Trump; and fear of impending defeat in November.


TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

JANUARY 6! JANUARY 6! JANUARY 6! JANUARY 6! JANUARY 6! JANUARY 6!
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Is there an issue more important to you than maintaining our system of government?
 
mrjurrs said:
Is there an issue more important to you than maintaining our system of government?
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When you have evidence of a genuine coup conspiracy that threatens our system of government-- as opposed to a lot of legal pissing around and a riot of largely unarmed morons-- be sure to post about it.

As I recall, the 10/6 committee hasn't produced such, so you couldn't do worse.
 
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The real January 6th investigation could take place next year when the Republicans get a majority in the House of Representatives. Revolver News has done a great job on Ray Epps participation on January 6th riot. So far the January 6th public hearing Committee, compose of 5 Democrats and 2 RINOS, has not investigated Epps. Relate to Epps is a question about the numbers of FBI informants and possible provocateurs among the Proud Boys and rioters on January 6, which should also be investigated. The Committee, by not investigating him, lost credibility to hold Trump responsible for the rioters action, and reinforce the perception of a cover-up.
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Epps is not an FBI plant. That lie has been debunked dozens of times. Such desperation is quite an admission for you.

New Evidence Undercuts Jan. 6 Instigator Conspiracy Theory​

Recordings released to defense lawyers directly challenge assertions by prominent Republicans that an Arizona man named Ray Epps was a federal informant and helped start the Capitol riot.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/jan-6-ray-epps-evidence.html
 
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When you have evidence of a genuine coup conspiracy that threatens our system of government-- as opposed to a lot of legal pissing around and a riot of largely unarmed morons-- be sure to post about it.

As I recall, the 10/6 committee hasn't produced such, so you couldn't do worse.
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You "recollection" is faulty as usual. The committee has provided much evidence of a conspiracy to overturn the election on several fronts and it continues to this day too.
 
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You "recollection" is faulty as usual. The committee has provided much evidence of a conspiracy to overturn the election on several fronts and it continues to this day too.
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That's the legal pissing around I referenced, none of which adds up to an actual insurrection for one salient reason: there was no means to actually prevent the elected government from assuming power. Without that, all you've got is lawyers taking shots at each other and at judges.
 
iguanaman said:
Epps is not an FBI plant. That lie has been debunked dozens of times. Such desperation is quite an admission for you.

New Evidence Undercuts Jan. 6 Instigator Conspiracy Theory​

Recordings released to defense lawyers directly challenge assertions by prominent Republicans that an Arizona man named Ray Epps was a federal informant and helped start the Capitol riot.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/jan-6-ray-epps-evidence.html
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I would agree that we have no evidence that Epps is an FBI agent.

The question as to why he was not charged like so many other protesters remains open.

www.businessinsider.com

Republicans spread the conspiracy theory that Trump supporter Ray Epps was an undercover FBI agent who incited the Capitol riot. Epps says it ruined his life.

Ray Epps, a target of January 6 conspiracy theory pushed by Donald Trump himself, said he had to sell his home and business and go into hiding.
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The FBI has not publicly commented on allegations that Epps was working with them or why he was not charged.
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Ouroboros said:
I would agree that we have no evidence that Epps is an FBI agent.

The question as to why he was not charged like so many other protesters remains open.

www.businessinsider.com

Republicans spread the conspiracy theory that Trump supporter Ray Epps was an undercover FBI agent who incited the Capitol riot. Epps says it ruined his life.

Ray Epps, a target of January 6 conspiracy theory pushed by Donald Trump himself, said he had to sell his home and business and go into hiding.
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If he did not assault any police officers or enter the Capitol why would you want him charged?

Rep. Adam Kinzinger, one of two Republicans on the committee, said on Twitter that Epps was removed from the FBI’s list because "apparently he broke no laws" and didn’t enter the Capitol.
"I’m pretty sure the FBI wouldn’t be dumb enough to put their own agent on a wanted list," Kinzinger added.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jan/18/how-new-jan-6-revelations-ray-epps-others-undercut/
 
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