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it's amusing how when the term immigrant is said, most automatically think of someone nonwhite, particularly latino.
yet aren't whites the biggest immigrants in the usa? how ironic that the real immigrants (whites) are trying to pawn off the term to others.
so i guess if you steal an entire country, use others to build it up, take the credit, you are no longer an immigrant but everyone else coming into the country is :doh
 
Unfair said:
it's amusing how when the term immigrant is said, most automatically think of someone nonwhite, particularly latino.
yet aren't whites the biggest immigrants in the usa? how ironic that the real immigrants (whites) are trying to pawn off the term to others.
so i guess if you steal an entire country, use others to build it up, take the credit, you are no longer an immigrant but everyone else coming into the country is :doh

Is this another POS(peice of ****)Globalist argument for trying to paint anti-illegal immigration people as racist?


As far as I know, anyone from any race can be a legal immigrint or a illegal alien.
I do not give a **** what country you are from,if you are here illegally then get the **** out,if you are a legal immigrint then welcome to the US.
 
jamesrage said:
Is this another POS(peice of ****)Globalist argument for trying to paint anti-illegal immigration people as racist?


As far as I know, anyone from any race can be a legal immigrint or a illegal alien.
I do not give a **** what country you are from,if you are here illegally then get the **** out,if you are a legal immigrint then welcome to the US.


Yeah, you can immigrate here as long as you have the cash. Otherwise a green card isn't in your future. So much for the tried, poor, huddled masses...yearning to breathe free.
 
Unfair said:
it's amusing how when the term immigrant is said, most automatically think of someone nonwhite, particularly latino.
yet aren't whites the biggest immigrants in the usa? how ironic that the real immigrants (whites) are trying to pawn off the term to others.
so i guess if you steal an entire country, use others to build it up, take the credit, you are no longer an immigrant but everyone else coming into the country is :doh


How wrong you are. TRUTH HURTS.


KENNEWICK MAN - WHITE RACIAL TYPE 7200 BC

On 28 July 1996, another dramatic find was made in the state of Washington in the north western United States: on that day a well-preserved skeleton was found in the Columbia River in Kennewick. This skeleton has become known as Kennewick Man as a result. The nearly intact skeletal remains, found with a stone arrowhead lodged in the pelvic bone, are so obviously White, that forensic anthropologists and local police first thought them to be those of a 19th Century White male, about 45 years old, who was killed by an arrow.

Radiocarbon dating of a finger bone, however, showed it to have great age - at least 9000 years old, putting the individual on the North American continent around the year 7200 BC. Like the Spirit Cave Mummy, Kennewick Man's White racial traits are the cause of much controversy.

As with the Spirit Cave Mummy, local American Indian tribes filed claims for possession of Kennewick Man. After a protracted legal dispute, scientists won the right to forensically examine the remains, a project completed in 1999.

Initial examination of Kennewick Man's skull shows very clearly the White, even Nordic, cranial structure, differing greatly from the Amerind Indian (Mongoloid) skull shape of American Indians. The skeleton is nearly complete, missing only the sternum and a few small bones of hands and feet. All the teeth are present. The man was tall - 170 to 176 cm and of slender build. Kennewick Man lacks definitive characteristics of the classic Mongoloid stock to which the Amerinds originally belonged - the skull is dolichocranic (cranial index 73.8) rather than brachycranic, the face narrow rather than broad and flat. (The average cranial index for Nordic racial types is 74). The cheek bones recede slightly and the lower rim of the orbit is even with the upper.

Other features are a long, broad nose that projects markedly from the face and high, round orbits. The mandible is v-shaped, with a pronounced, deep chin. Many of these characteristics are definitive of modern-day White peoples.

Other nearby finds of bone needles close to the Kennewick Man's remains assume that Kennewick Man may possibly have worn tailored clothing. These astonishing finds reveal that Kennewick Man was not alone, but that he lived in a community of some sort.

In October 1999 the US Government issued a report on Kennewick Man, claiming that the skeletal remains possibly resembled the Ainu racial type (found in Japan). As the Ainu themselves were originally a White tribe, this finding would make perfect sense.


FORK ROCK CAVE - 9000 YEAR OLD SANDALS

In Oregon there is a cave known as the Fork Rock Cave which has been the center of a number of significant non-biological finds. In 1938, seventy pairs of sandals made of sagebrush were discovered - radio-carbon dating technology dated the sandals at 9000 years old. Charcoal was also found with a radio-carbon date indicating it was 13,200 years old.

The sagebrush sandals were intricately woven, and the other items found in the cave included projectile points, scrapers, drills, a wooden trigger for a trap, small pieces of basketry and awls to make leather (or tailored clothing for the Kennewick Man and his peers), all of which indicated highly skilled workers. These differ vastly from Indian artifacts both in ancient North America and in modern Indian findings.

THE SI-TE-CAH - THE AMERINDS' WHITE ENEMIES ACCORDING TO INDIAN BELIEF

A cave near Lovelock, Nevada, (about 80 miles north east of the city of Reno in that state) has produced several sets of mummies, bones, and artifacts buried under several layers of bat excrement - the desiccated bodies belonged to a very tall people - with red hair. Once again, only White Nordics fit the bill with regard to stature and hair color.

In fact, red-haired enemies feature in local Indian legends - or what were thought legends until the discovery of the Lovelock mummies. (The locals Indians are the Paiutes, the same ones who object to the scientific investigation of the Spirit Cave Mummy). According to these legends, the red haired enemies centered on these tall troublemakers whom they called the "Si-Te-Cah."

Significantly, the name Si-Te-Cah means "tule eaters" - tule being the fibrous reed which is the base material of the mats in which the Spirit Cave Mummy was buried. Tule is no longer found in the region and was likely imported along with the people who used it.

According to the Paiute, the red-haired peoples were warlike, and a number of the Indian tribes joined together in a long war against them. According to the Indian legend, after a long struggle, a coalition of Indian tribes trapped the remaining Si-Te-Cah in what is now called Lovelock Cave. When they refused to come out, the Indians piled brush before the cave mouth and set it aflame. The Si-Te-Cah were incinerated.

Sarah Winnemucca Hopkins, daughter of Paiute Chief Winnemucca, related many stories about the Si-Te-Cah in her book "Life Among the Paiutes."

On page 75, she relates: "My people say that the tribe we exterminated had reddish hair. I have some of their hair, which has been handed down from father to son. I have a dress which has been in our family a great many years, trimmed with the reddish hair. I am going to wear it some time when I lecture. It is called a mourning dress, and no one has such a dress but my family."

In 1931, further skeletons were discovered in the Humboldt Lake bed. Eight years later, a mystery skeleton was unearthed on a ranch in the region. In each case, the skeletons were exceptionally tall - much taller than the surrounding Amerinds.

There is a small display on the Si-Te-Cah in the Lovelock museum today, but it ignores the evidence which indicates that the Si-Te-Cah were not Amerinds. The Nevada State Historical Society also displays some artifacts from the cave.

LINEAGE X - THE WHITE LINK SHOWN BY GENETIC TRACKING

Similarities between the non-Mongoloid body traits of ancient skeletal remains in North America and recent genetic studies support a link of Kennewick Man with ancient White peoples.

The genetic findings were announced in 1998 by Theodore Schurr, a molecular anthropologist from Emory University in Atlanta, at a meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists in Salt Lake City (Science, Vol. 280, 24 April 1998).

The new data, from a genetic marker named Lineage X, suggest definite links between ancient Whites and Native Americans.

It implies that ancient European peoples who reached North America after first, presumably, migrating through Asia, still retained a distinct genetic makeup which then passed into New World populations through later physical mingling. According to these Lineage X findings, White populations from Europe were most likely amongst the North American continent's earliest settlers.

The "Lineage X" markers and possible source populations have been studied by Emory researchers Michael Brown and Douglas Wallace, and Antonio Torroni of the University of Rome and Hans-Jurgen Bandelt of the University of Hamburg.

Lineage X, a site of genetic variation, is found in mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and thus is passed only through the maternal line. It is one of five markers or haplogroups in mtDNA now identified in Native Americans, of which the other four (A-D) are shared by Asians and Amerinds, in accordance with widely accepted theories of their ancient links.

The fifth genetic marker, Lineage X, occurs at low frequencies in both modern and ancient remains of Native Americans and in some European and Near Eastern groups including Italians, Spaniards, Finns, Turks, and Bulgarians. Crucially, Lineage X does not occur in any Asian population, including those of Tibet, Mongolia, Southeast Asia, or Northeast Asia. Brown and his co-workers had expected to find it in Asia - like the other four Native American markers, and are now pressed to account for the gap in their data.

This and other evidence persuasively indicates that groups of Whites migrated from Europe to North America before 9000 years ago, and at a later stage mixed with Amerind stocks to cause this fifth genetic marker to appear in North America.

The next obvious issue is did these early White racial types leave any buildings in North America? The answer is, yes, they did, buildings virtually identical to the Megaliths of Old Europe.



 
galenrox said:
We need to be realistic about this ****.

On the one hand, we are a nation of immigrants, considering only the smallest minority's ancestors did not emigrate here. Our nation was built on the backs of immigrants, and our current economy is completely reliant on immigrant labor.
On the other hand, illegal immigrants are violating the law.
On the other hand, they don't have much of a choice about it.

We need to address that we are a nation, and not just a territory in a global village, but we also have to admit that we are not an island, and what happens in other countries may every now and again actually effect us (i.e. illegal immigration)

And the pragmatic solution I see is making Mexico better, and dedicate all the time and resources that we're dedicating to building walls and checking people's trunks for immigrants at the border on making Mexico a better place, and I can almost guarantee that this problem would go away, at least as much as it ever will.

Reguardless of what many think,the US is not captian Save-a-ho.Mexico should solve it's own problems and the US should make every effort to drive out and keep out illegal aliens.
 
jamesrage said:
Reguardless of what many think,the US is not captian Save-a-ho.Mexico should solve it's own problems and the US should make every effort to drive out and keep out illegal aliens.

why should mexico solve its own problems with the usa had a helping hand in destroying it?
also, texas and california belongs to Mexico but it was stolen (like everything else is) from whites.
not to my surprise, whites are coming in here with obvious ignorance. why can't whites be sent back to europe? no one invited you guys here
 
Unfair,

I see you have a major chip on your shoulder about the United States.

why should mexico solve its own problems with the usa had a helping hand in destroying it?
also, texas and california belongs to Mexico but it was stolen (like everything else is) from whites.
not to my surprise, whites are coming in here with obvious ignorance. why can't whites be sent back to europe? no one invited you guys here

We destoryed it by taking California and Texas? What's your point? Mexco took it form the Native Americans. Mexico would still be a crap hole no matter how much land they had. There problem lies in there government.
 
i see your comprehension skills are lacking. you can't put two and two together. no need for me to go into detail. the usa has crumbled many economies while building up their own so it is the usa responsible, not the victims.
again, why was it okay for whites to come here uninvited and inflict a mass genocide on the native americans but mexicans and other people can't come here in the name of peace and for a better life stolen by the usa in their countries?
i bet no white will answer that
 
You are not an immigrant if you were born in the country in which you reside. Case closed.
 
To Realm's post: http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/kman/ancientpeoples.htm

New genetic research suggests that Native Americans share a common ancestor with the native peoples who now occupy south-central Asia. Some anthropologists have noted that the narrow, elongated skull shape of Kennewick Man — and other features traditionally called "Caucasoid" — are shared by several early populations in Asia and the Pacific. Based on this information, many scholars believe that it would be "far-fetched" at this point to suggest that Kennewick Man came from Europe.
Other reports have said he was purposely buried there; This article from Time magazine: http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1169905,00.html
shows the skeleton in its completeness. If you don't have a site membership, you could probably find it at your local library. Quite fascinating.
 
no it doesn't work like that. whites are not native to this country whether you were born here or not. you are univited guests that have stolen control and now want to act like this is rightfully your country.
what a joke
 
Unfair,

i see your comprehension skills are lacking.


Normally I would get upset at theat statement. Than I reallise you don't follow basic grammer rules and let it slide. :smile:


the usa has crumbled many economies while building up their own so it is the usa responsible, not the victims.

Prove it.

why was it okay for whites to come here uninvited and inflict a mass genocide on the native americans but mexicans and other people can't come here in the name of peace and for a better life stolen by the usa in their countries?

It wasn't ok. But I have a question for you. How did the United States steal "peace and a better life"?
 
Uneducated said:
no it doesn't work like that. whites are not native to this country whether you were born here or not. you are iniited guests that have stolen control and now want to act like this is rightfully your country.
what a joke
Well sport, if you use your logic neither were naive Americans, every person immigrated here, not just whites. Every nation in existence was built from slavery and war. Not just the Us. Guess what there champ, there were native Americans fighting for each others territory before whites arrived. Do you think before whites came everyone was running up the pyramids of teotihuacan skipping, singing and holding hands?
 
Ivan The Terrible said:
Normally I would get upset at theat statement. Than I reallise you don't follow basic grammer rules and let it slide. :smile:

I counted 11 errors in a post of his with only 24 words.
 
no it doesn't work like that. whites are not native to this country whether you were born here or not. you are univited guests that have stolen control and now want to act like this is rightfully your country.
what a joke

So are the inhabitant majority of pretty much every nation. Most whites in England (and their descendents elsewhere) are of Anglo-Saxon descent, who were themselves invaders of the British isles. What, they should all go back to what is now Germany? :neutral:

I'm an Australian-born and residing Jew of Welsh, Italian and Prussian descent. Argh, I'm screwed, where the hell do I go?!
 
vibeeleven,

I counted 11 errors in a post of his with only 24 words.
:rofl

We all make mistakes.



Originally Posted by Ivan The Terrible
Normally I would get upset at theat statement. Than I reallise you don't follow basic grammer rules and let it slide

It's just when you claim to be this wise guy you should at least capitalize your sentences.
 
vergiss,

I'm an Australian-born and residing Jew of Welsh, Italian and Prussian descent. Argh, I'm screwed, where the hell do I go?!

America!!! :2usflag: :ind: :gunsmilie :elephantf
 
ngdawg there are lots of other pieces of evidence. But of course there are going to be people who try to cover this up. I mean think about the ramifications. If it was discovered that a caucasian tribe that migrated from Japan actually arrived here first, and not the native Americans, well just about every group in this country would have to stop telling caucasians they have no right to this land. And well, that would really fudge up the auto-racist liberals day.

Alot of these bodies have been claimed by American Indians without any ability to check what race of origin they are. It is suspected they are doing this to cover up the fact that a caucasian tribe was slaughtered in Americas northwest after predating the Indian tribes by hundreds of years.
 
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RealmOfThePureForms said:
ngdawg there are lots of other pieces of evidence. But of course there are going to be people who try to cover this up. I mean think about the ramifications. If it was discovered that a caucasian tribe that migrated from Japan actually arrived here first, and not the native Americans, well just about every group in this country would have to stop telling caucasians they have no right to this land. And well, that would really fudge up the auto-racist liberals day.

Alot of these bodies have been claimed by American Indians without any ability to check what race of origin they are. It is suspected they are doing this to cover up the fact that a caucasian tribe was slaughtered in Americas northwest after predating the Indian tribes by hundreds of years.
Cover it up? It's Time magazine, not "Aryan Today".....I smell racist....did you even see the cover of the article with the computer overlay of the remains' face?
 
ngdawg said:
Cover it up? It's Time magazine, not "Aryan Today".....I smell racist....did you even see the cover of the article with the computer overlay of the remains' face?

That's funny considering there is a law that is over a decade old that says ALL bodies discovered which are not from our time period in this country are to be given to Native Americans for proper burial. Basically a law that was designed to prevent scientists from analyzing the remains of any skeletons found. There have been several court cases where scientists took the Native Americans to court to allow testing on the bodies. Only a few found outside the country were allowed to be tested because Native Americans had no law to get thsoe bodies. And they were shown to caucasian as well. Nothing racist about it. It's more than likely a cover up to prevent the real facts from surfacing.

Clinton pulled the same crap on a body that was found during his presidency which scientists wanted to study. It was given to the Native Americans and none of the scientists were allowed to analyze it. But from the bone structure they were pretty sure it was not Native American.

I could pull up over a dozen of these cases. Keep calling me racist though, that is what society has programed anyone who questions the elitest viewpoints to do.
 
You say you can pull up a dozen cases, but don't.
I direct you to the latest news regarding this find(showing a computer image from the skeletal remains clearly showing a NON-caucasian) and you call it a cover-up...so yea, if questioning 'elitists' is the same as saying I smell racist, so be it. Obviously, denial is not just a river in Egypt to ya.
In addition to the skeletal to full facial reconstruction, it has been determined that the body did not 'wash up', but was buried purposefully. By examining the teeth, they could tell what he ate. He had some arthritis and a couple of injuries, none of which seemed serious enough to kill him-they'd healed. Carbon testing on 'non-essential' bone dates him from 8500-9,000 years ago.
Now, about this not allowing scientists to examine or study the remains? The native americans did try to block that, but eventually agreed to the research if the remains were returned after studies were completed. The article contains a two-page spread of the intact skeleton with notations of the particulars mentioned.
 
Pacridge said:
Yeah, you can immigrate here as long as you have the cash. Otherwise a green card isn't in your future. So much for the tried, poor, huddled masses...yearning to breathe free.


WAH WAH WAH... So breach a sovergn nations borders. There ya go thats a great idea for immigrating to a new country.... Nothing like starting off your stay as a criminal. After that you can suck down resources and send the money you make home. God knows you wouldn't want to soend the money hear to bolster this economy. I recently read that Mexicos number one source of revenue is the US dollars being sent back to families....LMAO what a joke..... GO BACK until you can complete this processes legally
 
Unfair said:
no it doesn't work like that. whites are not native to this country whether you were born here or not. you are univited guests that have stolen control and now want to act like this is rightfully your country.
what a joke

So cavemen are the only people allowed... Well lets just say reptiles... So why have nations...Without nations we shouldn't need borders,, or laws.. Lets just go fo the fun old anarchy thing. That way the strong survive and the immigrants and the weak... well they get hung from trees. I know this is a really dumb argument, but I wanted yours to have a little company.
 
Actually the first natives on the land were bacteria and they are everywhere. If you want to argue that the Mexicans were first, well the bacteria were even before you even existed. So if the ones who own the land, it would be the bacteria and they would like us to be shot to space since they occupied every single nook and granny on the earth.
 
Unfair said:
it's amusing how when the term immigrant is said, most automatically think of someone nonwhite, particularly latino........:doh

I don't do you?
 

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