White House Sought Options to Strike Iran

[TU Curmudgeon]

Probably not. I enlisted in 1971, was commissioned in 1973 and retired in 1993. I was Future Plans Officer on a Cruiser Destroyer Group staff, Operations Officer on a Destroyer and Chief Staff Officer on Electronic Warfare and Special Operations groups.

In other words, roughly identical backgrounds. I'm OK with that.

Yaaaaawwwwwnnnn. So you got nothing but pissing contest blather to add?

Only if you don't want to admit how military planning (especially contingency planning) works.

Ground and strategic planning often gets a bit more "Blue Sky" than naval planning because it's generally pretty easy to rule out the sudden appearance of a whole fleet of nuclear powered and armed submarines or things like that. It's NOT quite so easy to rule out a nuclear device being delivered by third-party commercial carrier or the toppling of HT towers using cheap aluminum frying pans and rusty steel wool.

But you are still quite free to take a butter knife to a hand grenade fight if you want to.

 

[Bullseye]

In other words, roughly identical backgrounds. I'm OK with that.



Only if you don't want to admit how military planning (especially contingency planning) works.

Ground and strategic planning often gets a bit more "Blue Sky" than naval planning because it's generally pretty easy to rule out the sudden appearance of a whole fleet of nuclear powered and armed submarines or things like that. It's NOT quite so easy to rule out a nuclear device being delivered by third-party commercial carrier or the toppling of HT towers using cheap aluminum frying pans and rusty steel wool.

But you are still quite free to take a butter knife to a hand grenade fight if you want to.

LOL, Your pompous blather makes no sense in the context of this discussion.

 

[Sampson Simpson]

[h=1]White House Sought Options to Strike Iran[/h][FONT="][SIZE=3]WASHINGTON—On a warm night in early September, militants fired three mortars into Baghdad’s sprawling diplomatic quarter, home to the U.S. Embassy.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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[FONT="][SIZE=3]The shells—launched by a group aligned with Iran—landed in an open lot, harming no one. But they triggered unusual alarm in Washington, where President Trump’s national security team conducted a series of meetings to discuss a forceful American response.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT="]As part of the talks, Mr. Trump’s National Security Council, led by John Bolton, asked the Pentagon to provide the White House with military options to strike Iran. The request, which hasn’t been previously reported, generated concern at the Pentagon and State Department, current and former U.S. officials say.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/white-house-sought-options-to-strike-iran/ar-BBSaBnj?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Whoever released this information should absolutely be prosecuted for releasing military national security secrets. There is no justification whatsoever for anyone in the State Department or ANY other capacity divulging national security secrets. There are NO greater national security secrets than our military contingency plans. In the most real sense, anyone who released this information to the press was acting 100% as a spy for Iran. [/FONT]

There is also no justification for starting WWIII by attacking Iran. We already have spread ourselves thin and pissed away trillions of dollars on stupid wars, yeah, lets start another one that would drag Russia and China into. Great idea

and here comes the usual slew of dumb right wing comments and "Obama Obama Obama"

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

LOL, Your pompous blather makes no sense in the context of this discussion.

Well, since the "context of this discussion" is

The release of the information that the White House had instructed the Defence Department to prepare contingency plans for an attack on Iran was a disaster for the US because if that information had not been released the Iranians would never have thought that the US might even consider making contingency plans for an attack on Iran and that means that they would never have thought of preparing contingency plans to deal with an American attack on Iran - BUT because they are now doing so that means that ...
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I must beg to differ.

If you, with your experience, have some problem with what might happen if a country DOES NOT make contingency plans to deal with an enemy attack because they think that it is absolutely inconceivable that that enemy might actually attack them, might I remind you of 12/07?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

There is also no justification for starting WWIII by attacking Iran.

HOG WASH!!!!

Everyone knows that Iran has vast stockpiles of WMD - including nuclear weapons - that it is handing out to terrorists like people hand out candy on Halloween.

We already have spread ourselves thin and pissed away trillions of dollars on stupid wars, ...

Every dollar of which has contributed the America's GDP. If that money hadn't been spent the Chinese GDP would be even closer to being larger than the US GDP.

... yeah, lets start another one that would drag Russia and China into. Great idea

The Russians and Chinese don't have to get dragged into the war, all they have to do is to stand aside and act like reasonable conciliators whose interest is in upholding international law.

...and here comes the usual slew of dumb right wing comments and "Obama Obama Obama"

And you would be surprised?

Why?