Explain.
You should always read the full text.
The concept that Non-Christians could be enslaved was confirmed by further bulls like Dum Diversas 20 years later.
Which word of God do you study?No, you study the word of god that most closely aligns with your own beliefs.
"Sin" is equivalent to any behavior that you and I can agree is wrong, and more importantly, it is equivalent to any behavior that is wrong in the sight of God.So a debate can be had on whether a law is good for individual freedom and the good of civilization as a whole. No such debate can be held with regards to sin because no direct conversation can be held between god and people as a whole. There is no way to verify whether or not your beliefs are based on anything more than a cherry picked set of opinions that just happen to mirror your own. However, a case can be made as to whether a law is good for people or whether a perceived transgression is in fact even harmful to anybody.
I'm more interested in the many religions that support homosexuals and equal rights. Many denominations of Christianity, including the Episcopal and Lutheran churches, some sects of Catholicism, the United Church of Canada, Quakers, some Mennonites, and then there's Unitarians, Reform Jews, and many Buddhists, and then there's Wiccans and American Indian faiths... all of which express support for gay rights and gay marriage.
There is literally not a single faith in the whole world without homosexual members, nor one without heterosexuals who support them.
But where is the change on homosexuality? Where in the Bible does it EVER state that God commands homosexuals to be homosexual?Not so long ago people had no problems with slavery and it was accepted in the bible as totally normal. Not very long ago people would claim Slavery always was and always will be moral. You appear to be basing your claim on religion, the bible specifically. Now if the bible can say something like slavery is morally right but that is universally accepted as not being true today why do you think you can say the bible says homosexuality is wrong and think that this will be true yesterday, today and tomorrow when clearly the morals of society have not stagnated with the bible interpretations of right/wrong.
I think it's more a case of you not knowing what it is you're trying to argue. You feel anger, but you don't know how to articulate that anger, much less form a compelling counter argument. Your best bet at this point is to study Christianity, first. If you don't want to do that, then let me suggest that you stay away from religious topics, altogether.
It's all there, whether you want it to be or not. Don't hurt yourself on this one, Dezaad.Once again, the things you are saying have zero to do with whether or not the person in your pic was making demands of the Churches.
But where is the change on homosexuality? Where in the Bible does it EVER state that God commands homosexuals to be homosexual?
I think the most likely to alter its position (other than Methodist) is the LDS Church. People who think it is made up of unbending fundamentalists do not have a solid appreciation for how malleable and savvy the Church is. The ease at which they accepted the Boy Scouts of American sexual orientation change, the way in which they have steadily de-emphasized the fight against gay marriage, all serve as evidence that a chance in outlook is already underway.
I wasn't calling that bigotry. This is what I correctly was calling out as bigotry:
Aside from simply being factually wrong, it is an expression of outright bigotry, worse than any of which you have falsely accused others.
I think it is safe to say that the average person of faith is far less ignorant than yourself; and far more mature, emotionally or otherwise. It is certainly clear that by making such a statement, you expose a rather significant degree of your own ignorance and immaturity
Obviously you missed this part: ...that they restore to their earlier liberty all and each person of either sex who were once residents of said Canary Islands, and made captives since the time of their capture, and who have been made subject to slavery.
...no exceptions.
You are free to interpret the original Latin any way you choose. There is some doubt as to what exactly Pope Nicholas meant by "perpetual servitude". Here is a blog that discusses a translation of the bull. A quote from the blog: Much has been made of this phrase "perpetual servitude", though since the Bull comes in the late medieval period and not in the early modern period, I am not sure the phrase "perpetual servitude" should be interpreted in the same light it would be if the Bull was written in, say, 1650. I think we need to see it in a more "feudal" sense than a colonial one. At any rate, it needs more study.
Which word of God do you study?
You, see above.
"Sin" is equivalent to any behavior that you and I can agree is wrong, and more importantly, it is equivalent to any behavior that is wrong in the sight of God.
i wish you were right, but as long as there are hucksters in this world, and ignorant and scared people to target, religion will be with us ...
Yet religion is declining at an accelerating rate. The Catholics are suffering tremendous losses in most of the first world and those that remain are largely ignoring the Vatican, the Southern Baptists lost over 100,000 members in just 2012 alone.
There may continue to be the blatantly ignorant and those who take advantage of them, but the big organized religions seem to be going the way of the dinosaur.
Sorry, the evidence demonstrates that religiousity [sic] and intelligence are inversely correlated. The more religious a person is, the less intelligent and the less educated they tend to be.
It's all there, whether you want it to be or not. Don't hurt yourself on this one, Dezaad.
You don't have a point here.150 years ago where was the change on slavery?
It is not changing in scripture, and I'm FULLY aware of the changes homosexuals are making in our society. It's called the Gay Agenda.FYI many people nowadays do not consider homosexuality a sin, so it is changing. We are in fact in the middle of that change. You may not be able to see it but it is happening
Now, now. Watch the anger.I won't hurt myself on your idiocy, I can assure you.
I know because I ask. One of the most basic rules of being a Christian is to come to know God. The only way you can do that is to read His scriptures and pray for guidance. I'm sorry, but it really is that simple.You're actively avoiding my point. How do you know that god believes what you says he believes, and that you haven't merely chosen the beliefs that mirror your own. There are, after all, numerous religions and countless interpretations within each of those religions.
You don't have a point here.
It is not changing in scripture, and I'm FULLY aware of the changes homosexuals are making in our society. It's called the Gay Agenda.
Now, now. Watch the anger.
Slavery is not OK. THAT is the point. It was a reality in the Bible, and it was sometimes necessary, but it was never OK. I don't like slave owners chances at final judgment.Scripture still says slavery is ok that is the point. People interpret scripture all the time no one follows exactly everything in there 100% of the time, some try but fail. Do you think slavery is OK? If not why not? the bible thinks its ok.
Wrong. It's homosexuals mainstreaming their lifestyle while trying to guilt society into acceptance. This is their agenda, and it's working.There is no gay agenda there is only the religious homophobe agenda of trying to deny gay rights.
I believe we can stand our ground without murdering homosexuals.
Who cares? Homosexuality always has, and always will be, a sin.
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