Which of you are the REAL antivaxxers?

[Chomsky]

The US government passed blanket immunity laws for vaccinations decades ago. They have a specific sub-agency for it that has paid a lot of money over the years, but not massive amount. No company may be sued for a vaccination. Rather, you can make a case to that agency. I don't think they've ever admitted a vaccination harm - but have paid anyway.

The greatest number of claims and indications of harm is to military personnel who, when deployed to some regions, are giving an entire cocktail of vaccinations at the same time.

Personally, from you lay investigation, the greater claim against vaccinations is not any one vaccination. It is about give people - particularly kids - a dozen or more vaccinations in the same shot. That is infecting the kid with a dozen or more diseases - since that is what most vaccines are. Do they interact with each other while in the vial? Do the mess up the immune system - triggering other effects?

So while the covid-19 vaccination may be great as a stand alone vaccination, how will it interact with other vaccinations all in the same window period? Flu, pneumonia (2 types), shingles - the list is long.

Doing sample group testing my giving them the single covid-19 vaccine may not be the same as if the person's body is also dealing with other vaccinations at the same time.

There are times you can be startlingly logical & intuitive. 'Times' ...

 

[joko104]

Guillain–Barre syndrome - Wikipedia

The above is ADULT Guillain Barre Syndrome.
The immune system attacking ones peripheral nervous system about
a weak after responding to an infection. Viral or bacterial.

Okay? You Ready?

Newborn and young children have a different
Blood Brain Barrier
Blood–brain barrier - Wikipedia

For example, the brain cancer drug adults can only receive by intracranial infusion, ala Jackie Kennedy, children can receive via IV, blood transport to brain.
The child's BBB does not respond as the adult BBB in this case.



Autism has risen with the rise of required vaccines.
Remember Hib & Pneumococcus are not 1 but over 10 each
as Polio is 3.
When I was a kid, I got Polio = 3, plus a D, a P and a T. Total = 6
Today kids routinely get over 50, stimulated immune responses!
And autism rates rise!
And stranger than strange, the elementary schools
with Chickenpox outbreaks involve vaccinated kids.
Yet the unvaccinated get punished

Post Vaccination Autism is a Pediatric Variant of GB Syndrome.
My pharmacist never agreed until child #5 of 6 changed after an MMR.


More vaccinations from my basic 6
more opportunity for brain damaged children.
And of course this reaction can occur in children with a primary, not vaccination
but nature infection.
So unvaccinated kids may go autistic too



Yes I Believe in Polio, and DPT vaccination, gov't enforced.
All else should be optional.
How about that Heb B "shot" on the day of birth. profit driven


Moi, M.D. ret.

Massive numbers of vaccines at the same time is the legitimate issue - not individual vaccinations generally. That also is the argument concerning autism. In addition, no one has come up with any alternative theory as to why the ratio of autism is children is going thru the ceiling. Maybe they just didn't recognize it earlier - but for most it is too pronounced to not see.

Given the devastating effect autism can have on children lifelong - and the parents and community - and costs even to the government, the medical and scientific community shrugging its shoulders with "we don't have a clue, other than we know - somehow - it is NOT caused by giving a child 2 dozen vaccinations at the same time (solely for medical convenience reasons).

That's not good enough. Maybe people now constantly bombarded by radiation - cell towers, cell phones, radar - constantly - is a factor. Maybe a food additive or pesticide? They don't know. However, too many parents claim their child developed autism after injected with many vaccinations - rather than noticing behavioral issues prior.

I can not find one study done on the effect and safety of multiple vaccinations on the same time, particularly on little children who still have developing immune systems and other body chemistry matters. I also think generally they don't use little children for vaccine testing.

 

[joko104]

I would be more concerned for children - who themselves face almost no danger from covid-19. Sacrificing children to avoid risk to old folks is just wrong. The older generation should sacrifice for the next generations, not the other way around.

Medical risk that can be avoided was never acceptable to us. For torso ex-rays, I required that they lay those lead vests over my groin area. For my wife, nearly her entire torso almost to her knees. X-rays damage DNA - that's just a known fact. Of our children not one has any birth defect nor so much as a birth mark.

Even if I decided to do the covid-19 vaccine, I would not allow it for my children as they aren't at risk of harm by it anyway - or so remote that getting hit by lightning is probably as high.

 

[Moderate Right]

Will you or will you not take the covid-19 vaccination if the FDA approves it?

Are you pro-vaccinations, anti-vaccinations or one or the other depending upon who is president?

If the latter, please explain why it matters who is president since the FDA does the approval, not the president.

If the latter is the case and it is because you hate Trump or hate Biden more than care about covid-19, if Dr. Fauci also approves of it then would you take it?

Simple question.

Yes, this will be funny to watch these people come out as anti-vaxxers after railing for years against the anti-vaxxers. Just when I think the left can't be any more hypocritical, they prove me wrong yet again.

 

[OlNate]

Will you or will you not take the covid-19 vaccination if the FDA approves it?

Are you pro-vaccinations, anti-vaccinations or one or the other depending upon who is president?

If the latter, please explain why it matters who is president since the FDA does the approval, not the president.

If the latter is the case and it is because you hate Trump or hate Biden more than care about covid-19, if Dr. Fauci also approves of it then would you take it?

Simple question.

Here's hoping that Trump is gone by the time the vaccine comes out. It will likely delay things by a couple months, while the science is reexamined, but at least people will trust it.

I know your schtick is to stick it to the lefties at every opportunity, but I'm not sure that highlighting the fact that your president is so untrustworthy and hated that people will avoid a potentially life saving vaccine because of his endorsement is actually making a point for you. Making a point, definitely...just not for you.