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Simply put:What are the issues that decide your vote and what is your stance on them?
I'm sorry I'm not going to stand for being treated like a second class citizen. :roll:
Hmm....it doesn't seem to take a thread any longer to turn into a "gays are oppressed" party around here than it does anywhere else....
You were born a woman, Fate decided that for you a long time ago. ;-)
I'm sorry I'm not going to stand for being treated like a second class citizen. :roll:
I'm sorry, but automatically labeling a woman a second class citizen is incredibly ignorant. I find it funny that people still carry that obsolete mindset.
With that said, my biggest deciding factor in this election is the economy, followed by the war. I don't think social issues such as abortion and gay rights should be a deciding factor for the president. There are much more important things at stake, IMO.
I'm sure you don't, but then I don't see where you are (feel free to debate that all you want, in it's proper thread). Have you considered moving to Canada or someplace else that already has what you desire instead of trying to force your view upon everyone else?
Also, is it better to be a "second" class citizen in the US with a strong economy or a "first" class citizen in a third world ****hole or an economically depressed America (which under current management is heading towards third world ****hole status quickly anyways)?
You're free to believe whatever you wish. As for me, I'm a Traditionalist and I always will be.
I disagree. Promoting Conservative Social Agendas leads to a place where most of the Economic issues fix themselves. Anything else doesn't get us there in the end.
I respect your position. What I do not respect is publicly demoralizing an individual by calling them a second class citizen based on ones assumptions.
So, if the gays and pro-choice individuals are happy, the economy will magically fix itself?
No, I don't believe it will. Unfortunately.
I'm sure you don't, but then I don't see where you are (feel free to debate that all you want, in it's proper thread). Have you considered moving to Canada or someplace else that already has what you desire instead of trying to force your view upon everyone else?
Also, is it better to be a "second" class citizen in the US with a strong economy or a "first" class citizen in a third world ****hole or an economically depressed America (which under current management is heading towards third world ****hole status quickly anyways)?
What's a "forward-leaning defense posture"?
And if I want to bring everybody home, close all foreign military bases, and open bases on the homeland so that we become truly defensive, and about 10,000 times less offensive, what would you call that?
Star knows my position quite well by now. I'm not saying anything she isn't already aware of my feelings on.
NO. The exact OPPOSITE. It is only once Traditional Morals and Values are returned to the vast majority of the population that the economy will be fixed. Not through magic either, but rather through the common sense, reason, and logic attached to those Traditional Morals and Values.
For this election, foreign policy is my #1 issue.
I am voting for Gary Johnson because of how disgusted I am with Obama on the War in Afghanistan... and Romney doesn't support pulling out either. Hell, he keeps pushing for a war with Iran on top of that.
Taking out Iran would be good, should of been done a longtime ago.
The problem with your premise is that it is you who wishes to force your view upon others. No one has ever suggested forcing you to marry someone of the same sex yet you somehow feel endowed to tell them what is permissible in their lives. It's funny that I've made the same argument about relocating to people of your orientation before. If you want a theocratic Christian state, I'm sure you can find one somewhere. Don't want to pay taxes? There are plenty of places you could live with much lower rates. Unfortunately, all of them pretty much fall into the ****hole category.
Good luck with that. Just realize that there are many people like ME out there who will not have our viewpoints changed by you or anyone else.
NO. The exact OPPOSITE. It is only once Traditional Morals and Values are returned to the vast majority of the population that the economy will be fixed. Not through magic either, but rather through the common sense, reason, and logic attached to those Traditional Morals and Values.
First off, if you had read any of my previous post on the subject, then you would know that my religious believes have absolutely nothing to do with it. I would consider moving someplace else but there is no place that pursues the economic philosophy that I believe in and also supports the earned privileges we call rights at the level of the US.
Second, my point of view on Marriage is that marriage is centered around procreation and child care. You can disagree with that all you want, it doesn't change my opinion. The pursuit of SSM is to grant to them the same benefits and tax breaks enjoyed by married couples. Those benefits were created at a time when most households had a single wage earner and it better enabled couples to care for their children.
Third, my view on homosexuality is that is an aberration of the natural instinct for procreation. Because it is an aberration of an instinct, the cause of which is not currently known, homosexuality as a sexual preference is not a normal human behavior and I do not support attempts to normalize it. I do not however believe that homosexuals should be harassed, discriminated against or assaulted as a result of their condition. As a result of my view on marriage, I do not believe that not allowing SSM is discrimination, they are free to pursue normal marriage, the same as anyone else.
As you can see, disagree with me or not, my beliefs on this subject are not religiously motivated. As far as this thread goes, this is as far off the rail of the thread as I am willing to go here.
you would vote for a candidate the screws up everything else. I have to hand it to you, at least your honest about it.
What's a "forward-leaning defense posture"?
And if I want to bring everybody home, close all foreign military bases, and open bases on the homeland so that we become truly defensive, and about 10,000 times less offensive, what would you call that?
Traditionalist, Nationalist
...I would have to waver between "suicidal" and just "dangerously naive".
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