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pirates and their actions.........are a power of the federal government.
That does not negate the fact government protects property with man made laws.
you stated government created the right to property
government is instituted to protect property of every sort, ..by using written law to do it.
Letters of Marque and Reprisal?
Old pirates, yes, they rob I;
Sold I to the merchant ships,
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit.
But my hand was made strong
By the 'and of the Almighty.
We forward in this generation
Triumphantly.
I can't claim property on my own.
Again, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
Thing is, should we give the stamp of legitimacy to discrimination? Or should we give the stamp of legitimacy to freedom from discrimination?
Remember, men's-only voting had the stamp of legitimacy for almost half of America's history so far. Once women's suffrage was given the stamp of legitimacy, a lot of people (almost all men) didn't like it...but look how that particular stamp of legitimacy has changed our society. How many out there would even think of restricting a woman's right to vote?
So it goes with laws either allowing or disallowing discrimination. The longer the laws are on the books, the more the society adapts to and accepts those laws...and they become a part of the social fabric.
article 1 section 8....To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations; ...
so your saying government can violate a right, because other people don't like how a person exercises his rights.......even though no other person rights are being violated.
not a Bob Marley fan? you are right though
no sorry...dont like Bob Marley
If someone is running a business that serves the general public, I have no problem with their right to discriminate being subjugated by laws against discrimination. They can discriminate to their heart's content at home, in the streets, in other businesses...but their own business? No. That's the little bit of freedom we must give up to be a civil society.
Or do you still think that blacks belong at the back of the bus?
oh, so Edison had to get government approval of a right to the bulb?
so rights come at the approval of government?
Where did I say: "...even though no other person's rights are being violated"? Not at all.
So, to clarify, you feel as if you, yourself, have the right to violate the person or property of your neighbor in order to force him to do business against his will?
Still think? How do you presume to pretend to know what I've ever thought?
No, a patent is a man made law which the government protects.
How about this: "Do you think that blacks still belong at the back of the bus?" (Moved a word. Less accusatory. My bad.)
I believe in Civil Rights laws that outlaw discrimination based on a variety of reasons, race being one. I have no problem with them.
patent law, is law which protects the natural right of property.
if law is not written, HOW DOES ONE KNOW THE LAW?
i will rephrase.
if a person exercise his right to property, and in exercising that right, he does not violate the rights of another person, or health and safety laws created by government, [which are designed to protect people], then by what authoirty does the government have to force a property owner to serve another citizen?
first ...it defines the DOI....because force is being using on a citizen..the property owner....which violates the founding principles.
second.. it violates the 13th amendment...which states no person can be forced to serve another citizen, unless convicted of a crime.......discrimination is not criminal law.......its administrative law.
p.s...... i think your a good poster...so don't take anything personal please.
An idea is not the same thing as physical property.
No, a patent is a man made law which the government protects.
I mean do you feel the right to say to your neighbor that he may not operate a business without your permission, and then if he disobeys you to violate his person or property.
again, did Edison own the light blub when he created it.......or did law by government give him the right of property to it?
How about this: "Do you think that blacks still belong at the back of the bus?" (Moved a word. Less accusatory. My bad.)
I believe in Civil Rights laws that outlaw discrimination based on a variety of reasons, race being one. I have no problem with them.
Why ask me that?
That property came from an idea and then he needed to buy the goods to make it. He then was able to protect his idea but needs to pay to have those bulbs manufactured.
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