The face of Jacob
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This lecture is by Rabbi Yossef Ben Porat who is a famous Rabbi in Israel. This lecture and others of this kind are broadcast each night in the television in Israel. It's very informative lecture and it sheds light on points that many people aren't aware of them. I'm sorry for the length of it, the lecture is over 80 minutes and so the translation of it. Capital letters are when the lecturer raises his voice. You can watch the video free online here or to download it free each weekday between 06:00-08:00 AM Israeli time here.
Good evening! We are talking about this subject, the subject of the holocaust, maybe the most hardest subject and the most comprehensive one. It's hard because of the things that accured and it's comprehensive, very comprehensive because of the historic survey that we need to do in order to understand the issues and because of the vast matters that each year are to be added to the closet of books. Books of researches in many matters and of course it includes many new discoveries and also revolutionary discoveries. We will try to deal only in couple of points. Points that are less known, less discussed.
In a book which deals with the subject of the holocaust, a book which was published by the University of Haifa and was written by Boaz Noyman, he raises a very interesting point that I never saw that other researchers emphasize. In the extermination of the Jews in the camps there was a thing that has no precedent in the history in many aspects. Not only in the vast quantity of the people but first and foremost in the method of the treatment. The world is satiated with wars, world war I was a tremendous trauma in the world but everything was carried out in a war way, in emotional way. The passageway to an extermination of the Jews in the camps, in an organized and in sterile method is the difference that characterizes that Jews who were killed, 6 million of them and maybe more, apart of the rest of those that were killed. Because, in world war II about 50 million people were killed in Europe, from many nations, Germany alone – 20 million Germans were killed, and also Russians etc. And all of them were killed whilst war activity that was in the world since the dawn of it. The only ones who were killed in that way (the way that he will explain now) were the Jews. But it's known to everybody. Noyman uprights a very interesting point: Who killed the Jews? The Germans built a model in which the German was merely came in touch with the Jew – from the transport and onward. "The Germans established units in the name of zonder commando and their duty was to lead the victim to the incinerator, to make sure he will take off his clothes, whilst they deceive him reagarding his destiny, to sort his clothes and his property, to clean the cell and to prepare it for other victims, to uproot the golden teeth, to cut the hear of the dead bodies, everything, everything. The ones who were recruited to this job were the victims themselves, the ones who been transported to the camp, and were destroyed by other victims that replaced them. In this method of extermination, there were occasions in which children had to exterminate their parents. The people of the zonder commando are the typical example for separation between the killer and their victims and to make the victim to someone who helps the killer." The victim is killing himself. Each one of them in his own queue. They created a distance. "Primo Levy wrote that the zonder commando institute was the most satanic from all the crimes of the Nazis. It represents the attempt of the Nazis to deliver the guilt to the victims, and in this method, the Germans rejected the only comfort of the victim – to be innocent." The victim kills himself. "All of the connection between the zonder commando to the SS soldiers was made only by the responsible Kapo", that of course was a Jew too. And everything was planned in advance for this method, not to ruin too much the German character, not to bring the Germans to conflicts with blood, horror and children. "Yossef Saker who was a survivor of the zonder commando claimed that he never talked to a German in the camp." All the commandments were delivered by Jews to other Jews until the end. And there was in this method another horrible thing – the way of the death. They (Germans) checked many methods until they came to the known one of the gas chambers. Listen carefully how much it's terrible and monstrous: "From the moment that the door of the chamber closed, the last struggle of the victim began, the effect of the gas that brought into the chamber in a can", if you visited in the camps you saw how it was done, there was a window that through it the can was thrown and then close the chamber, "was from downward to upward." The gas is heavier than the air so it started from downward and raised up. "The victim struggled until the last moments of his life to catch a higher position", to breath some air, "In relation to the other victims. HIS STRUGGLE WASN'T AGAINST THE KILLER but against another victim - this is how Dr. Miklos Nistcely who was a physician prisoner who had to do operations in the dead bodies, described it. The bodies weren't placed alongside the wall, but one upon the other. It forced the victims to step on each other in a crazy attempt to avoid the gas, but the gas reached them, what a struggle for life it was there. If only they have been aware to their acts then they would have understand that they step on their wives, their children and their relatives. Their movements were a reflex of an instinct to survive. I've mention that the bodies of the women, the children and the elders were in the bottom and the stronger were up." You should understand what was the aspect of this method. Not only that the victims have killed themselves but also in that last chamber - one instinct climbed on top of the other one, and the stronger upon the weaker and everybody were killed. But even in those last fibrillation – they had to be more vicious than animals. There was no precedent to this method in no other place. There wasn't any precedent for that in other place.
The Torah is mentioning what will be in the struggles of times of destruction like in the destruction of the first and the second temple, struggles between each other, that mothers will eat their own children. The physician who worked in the camps indeed described what he saw. The writer Ka. Tzetnik, that was his literary name, who been into all this horrible actions, said that people were pushed into "other planet". It wasn't in other planet or in Mars. Much has been written about the reasons for this process. And of course we have different points of view. I went to the origin, to Hitler himself, may his name be erased. In his famous book "Mein Kampf", that was translated to Hebrew, "my struggle", that was published in 2 editions. In this book he planned his dreams and his plan against the Jews and it's interesting what pushed him and he writes it and it was published also in a book in the name of "The documented holocaust", a book which was published by Yad Vashem Museum and translates things from "Mein Kampf". Well gentlemen, Hitler claims that there's a thing that risk very much Germany and the Germans. What is it? He is saying that the Jews took over Russia and turned it to USSR and that the Jews killed 30 million Russians in the revolution. He exaggerated in the number but it doesn't matter. (I talked about it here) They killed all the Russian elite and kept a primitive nation for them Jews to control over them. They did the revolution. They want to do a revolution all over the world, it's called Internazionale – all the workers of the world must unite. This is the main motto of "Mein Kampf". The next country after Russia is Germany, and indeed there was a short rule of the Communists in Germany at that time. And Hiter writes that they (Jews) want to finish you (Germans). The method is to finish the elite in every country and then the Jews could rull all over the world. We all know who did the revolution in Russia. Lenin was only the figure but if you look at the picture of the first politburo you will see everything: the KGB in it's first name: the NKVD. The Jews established all these method. All the take over upon Russia was managed by Trotzky who was the minister of war, he was a genius but very very cruel. He ignored his Judaism and to the Jews and he abused the Russians. Well Gentlemen, Hitler saw that, he presented it and the Germans bought it. Hitler stood behind the things he said and showed documents in his book. It were the Jews who started in Germany the same revolution that they did in Russia with all the eliminations in the elite group in Germany. But if we will go back in time, there is a research and a book of Prof. Moshe Zimerman in the name of "Wilhelm marr – the patriarch of Anti-semitism". Maybe you heard about him. He was the one who invented the term "Anti-semitism". And Wilhelm Marr is talking in his book – and I can show you other books of all the fathers of the modern anti-semitism - about the gaining control of the Jews upon the life in Germany whilst they pushed away utterly the Germans. I'll read couple of sentences: "The daily free press is closed for us (Germans), you (Jews) knew how to make it to your monopoly. Yes, the holy freedom itself turned to be a Jewish monopoly." And he declared in an unequivocal way and it was that way that the Jews took over all the press, the theatre, the jurisprudence, the economy, the banks, everything. And then Marr, Wilhelm Marr is saying that the Jews also want equal rights. Emancipation. This was the motto of everybody. This was the motto of Shtaker, of Traishtet, this was the motto of everybody. Sages of blessed memory taught us: "When you are in the exile, when you are at the Gentiles - don't push one's way in and of course don't rull over the Gentiles. Don't be arrogant over them. You are in the exile." Dr. Nachum Goldman is saying that the ghetto was created by the Jews themselves and not by the Gentiles. IN EVERY PLACE THAT THE JEWS ARRIVED TO THEY WISHED TO LIVE ALONE, FOR THEMSELVES. The first ghetto was created by Jacob our father when he arrived to Egypt and he said to Pharaoh that he wants to live in the land of Goshen, away from the heart of the city. Not near the palace, not in aristocratic place but only in a place for themselves. This is how the Jews lived always in the countries of the east and in the countries of the west. Cause a Jew needs his territory – his synagogue, his mikveh, his Kosher grocery, his modesty AND ABOVE ALL: NOT TO STAND OUT. In this matter the Jew kept his sanctity and his purity. The Gentile didn't see the Jew as a competitor but as someone who helps him to develop the economy. The Jews developed the economy in every place in the world, from Spain to Poland and of course in Germany.
Good evening! We are talking about this subject, the subject of the holocaust, maybe the most hardest subject and the most comprehensive one. It's hard because of the things that accured and it's comprehensive, very comprehensive because of the historic survey that we need to do in order to understand the issues and because of the vast matters that each year are to be added to the closet of books. Books of researches in many matters and of course it includes many new discoveries and also revolutionary discoveries. We will try to deal only in couple of points. Points that are less known, less discussed.
In a book which deals with the subject of the holocaust, a book which was published by the University of Haifa and was written by Boaz Noyman, he raises a very interesting point that I never saw that other researchers emphasize. In the extermination of the Jews in the camps there was a thing that has no precedent in the history in many aspects. Not only in the vast quantity of the people but first and foremost in the method of the treatment. The world is satiated with wars, world war I was a tremendous trauma in the world but everything was carried out in a war way, in emotional way. The passageway to an extermination of the Jews in the camps, in an organized and in sterile method is the difference that characterizes that Jews who were killed, 6 million of them and maybe more, apart of the rest of those that were killed. Because, in world war II about 50 million people were killed in Europe, from many nations, Germany alone – 20 million Germans were killed, and also Russians etc. And all of them were killed whilst war activity that was in the world since the dawn of it. The only ones who were killed in that way (the way that he will explain now) were the Jews. But it's known to everybody. Noyman uprights a very interesting point: Who killed the Jews? The Germans built a model in which the German was merely came in touch with the Jew – from the transport and onward. "The Germans established units in the name of zonder commando and their duty was to lead the victim to the incinerator, to make sure he will take off his clothes, whilst they deceive him reagarding his destiny, to sort his clothes and his property, to clean the cell and to prepare it for other victims, to uproot the golden teeth, to cut the hear of the dead bodies, everything, everything. The ones who were recruited to this job were the victims themselves, the ones who been transported to the camp, and were destroyed by other victims that replaced them. In this method of extermination, there were occasions in which children had to exterminate their parents. The people of the zonder commando are the typical example for separation between the killer and their victims and to make the victim to someone who helps the killer." The victim is killing himself. Each one of them in his own queue. They created a distance. "Primo Levy wrote that the zonder commando institute was the most satanic from all the crimes of the Nazis. It represents the attempt of the Nazis to deliver the guilt to the victims, and in this method, the Germans rejected the only comfort of the victim – to be innocent." The victim kills himself. "All of the connection between the zonder commando to the SS soldiers was made only by the responsible Kapo", that of course was a Jew too. And everything was planned in advance for this method, not to ruin too much the German character, not to bring the Germans to conflicts with blood, horror and children. "Yossef Saker who was a survivor of the zonder commando claimed that he never talked to a German in the camp." All the commandments were delivered by Jews to other Jews until the end. And there was in this method another horrible thing – the way of the death. They (Germans) checked many methods until they came to the known one of the gas chambers. Listen carefully how much it's terrible and monstrous: "From the moment that the door of the chamber closed, the last struggle of the victim began, the effect of the gas that brought into the chamber in a can", if you visited in the camps you saw how it was done, there was a window that through it the can was thrown and then close the chamber, "was from downward to upward." The gas is heavier than the air so it started from downward and raised up. "The victim struggled until the last moments of his life to catch a higher position", to breath some air, "In relation to the other victims. HIS STRUGGLE WASN'T AGAINST THE KILLER but against another victim - this is how Dr. Miklos Nistcely who was a physician prisoner who had to do operations in the dead bodies, described it. The bodies weren't placed alongside the wall, but one upon the other. It forced the victims to step on each other in a crazy attempt to avoid the gas, but the gas reached them, what a struggle for life it was there. If only they have been aware to their acts then they would have understand that they step on their wives, their children and their relatives. Their movements were a reflex of an instinct to survive. I've mention that the bodies of the women, the children and the elders were in the bottom and the stronger were up." You should understand what was the aspect of this method. Not only that the victims have killed themselves but also in that last chamber - one instinct climbed on top of the other one, and the stronger upon the weaker and everybody were killed. But even in those last fibrillation – they had to be more vicious than animals. There was no precedent to this method in no other place. There wasn't any precedent for that in other place.
The Torah is mentioning what will be in the struggles of times of destruction like in the destruction of the first and the second temple, struggles between each other, that mothers will eat their own children. The physician who worked in the camps indeed described what he saw. The writer Ka. Tzetnik, that was his literary name, who been into all this horrible actions, said that people were pushed into "other planet". It wasn't in other planet or in Mars. Much has been written about the reasons for this process. And of course we have different points of view. I went to the origin, to Hitler himself, may his name be erased. In his famous book "Mein Kampf", that was translated to Hebrew, "my struggle", that was published in 2 editions. In this book he planned his dreams and his plan against the Jews and it's interesting what pushed him and he writes it and it was published also in a book in the name of "The documented holocaust", a book which was published by Yad Vashem Museum and translates things from "Mein Kampf". Well gentlemen, Hitler claims that there's a thing that risk very much Germany and the Germans. What is it? He is saying that the Jews took over Russia and turned it to USSR and that the Jews killed 30 million Russians in the revolution. He exaggerated in the number but it doesn't matter. (I talked about it here) They killed all the Russian elite and kept a primitive nation for them Jews to control over them. They did the revolution. They want to do a revolution all over the world, it's called Internazionale – all the workers of the world must unite. This is the main motto of "Mein Kampf". The next country after Russia is Germany, and indeed there was a short rule of the Communists in Germany at that time. And Hiter writes that they (Jews) want to finish you (Germans). The method is to finish the elite in every country and then the Jews could rull all over the world. We all know who did the revolution in Russia. Lenin was only the figure but if you look at the picture of the first politburo you will see everything: the KGB in it's first name: the NKVD. The Jews established all these method. All the take over upon Russia was managed by Trotzky who was the minister of war, he was a genius but very very cruel. He ignored his Judaism and to the Jews and he abused the Russians. Well Gentlemen, Hitler saw that, he presented it and the Germans bought it. Hitler stood behind the things he said and showed documents in his book. It were the Jews who started in Germany the same revolution that they did in Russia with all the eliminations in the elite group in Germany. But if we will go back in time, there is a research and a book of Prof. Moshe Zimerman in the name of "Wilhelm marr – the patriarch of Anti-semitism". Maybe you heard about him. He was the one who invented the term "Anti-semitism". And Wilhelm Marr is talking in his book – and I can show you other books of all the fathers of the modern anti-semitism - about the gaining control of the Jews upon the life in Germany whilst they pushed away utterly the Germans. I'll read couple of sentences: "The daily free press is closed for us (Germans), you (Jews) knew how to make it to your monopoly. Yes, the holy freedom itself turned to be a Jewish monopoly." And he declared in an unequivocal way and it was that way that the Jews took over all the press, the theatre, the jurisprudence, the economy, the banks, everything. And then Marr, Wilhelm Marr is saying that the Jews also want equal rights. Emancipation. This was the motto of everybody. This was the motto of Shtaker, of Traishtet, this was the motto of everybody. Sages of blessed memory taught us: "When you are in the exile, when you are at the Gentiles - don't push one's way in and of course don't rull over the Gentiles. Don't be arrogant over them. You are in the exile." Dr. Nachum Goldman is saying that the ghetto was created by the Jews themselves and not by the Gentiles. IN EVERY PLACE THAT THE JEWS ARRIVED TO THEY WISHED TO LIVE ALONE, FOR THEMSELVES. The first ghetto was created by Jacob our father when he arrived to Egypt and he said to Pharaoh that he wants to live in the land of Goshen, away from the heart of the city. Not near the palace, not in aristocratic place but only in a place for themselves. This is how the Jews lived always in the countries of the east and in the countries of the west. Cause a Jew needs his territory – his synagogue, his mikveh, his Kosher grocery, his modesty AND ABOVE ALL: NOT TO STAND OUT. In this matter the Jew kept his sanctity and his purity. The Gentile didn't see the Jew as a competitor but as someone who helps him to develop the economy. The Jews developed the economy in every place in the world, from Spain to Poland and of course in Germany.