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Where Is the Republican Party Heading?

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Where Is the Republican Party Heading? | The New York Times

Instead of adopting a new platform, the party declared its support for President Trump. But what will it support when Trump is gone?

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For its quadrennial convention this week, the Republican Party broke with precedent by declining to articulate a new vision for governing. Instead, the party opted to recycle its 2016 platform and declared that it “enthusiastically supports President Trump and continues to reject the policy positions of the Obama-Biden Administration.” Whether this strategy will prove electorally effective in November is anyone’s guess. But what does it mean for the future of the party’s political identity? Here’s what people are saying. In Politico, Tim Alberta, who chronicled the history of the Republican Party over the past decade in his book “American Carnage,” writes that the absence of a platform this year underscores the extent to which the party has become a cult of personality that has given up on ideas. “With Election Day just a few months away, I was genuinely surprised, in the course of recent conversations with a great many Republicans, at their inability to articulate a purpose, a designation, a raison d’être for their party,” he writes. As for the judiciary, Eric Posner writes in The Times that Mr. Trump would probably seek to appoint an even farther-right Supreme Court justice if a vacancy opened up. And on foreign policy, he might finally follow through on withdrawing from NATO.

In Washington Monthly, Paul Gastris raises the possibility of Democrats’ taking back the Senate, which would further hamstring Republican lawmakers. While much of Mr. Trump’s base may continue to back him, Mr. Gastris predicts that his numbers would eventually start to slip. In the event of a Biden victory in November, the Times columnist Bret Stephens argues that the future of the Republican Party would depend on Mr. Trump’s margin of defeat. If he loses narrowly, the Trump family will do what it can to retain control of the party. As Adam Harris writes in The Atlantic, it is Donald Trump Jr., not Nikki Haley or Tim Scott, who currently seems the president’s most natural political heir. But if Mr. Trump loses overwhelmingly, Mr. Stephens predicts a more profound schism will emerge within the Republican Party. But others think that such a reversion is doubtful, at least for now. “The basic Trump worldview — on immigration, trade, foreign policy, etc. — will shape the G.O.P. for decades, the way the basic Reagan worldview did for decades,” the Times columnist David Brooks writes. “A thousand smarter conservatives will be building a new party after 2020, but one that builds from the framework Trump established.”

Win or lose, Trumpism will be a defining feature of GOP politics for at least the next decade or perhaps more, depending on what happens in the 2020 election.

Many political pundits view November 3rd as a national referendum on Trumpism, and the past four years of Donald Trump in the White House.
 

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It's all about trump for both sides. I personally don't see his crass bile spouting mouth attracting any more voters than he already has. On the other hand his crass bile spouting mouth has turned off many more folks. We'll see come november if america has turned in the cult of trump or we are the better nation we say we seek.

As far as the gop is concerned, I can only hope trump has damaged it for a long time to come.
 

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Where Is the Republican Party Heading? | The New York Times

Instead of adopting a new platform, the party declared its support for President Trump. But what will it support when Trump is gone?

3Teyrb_0WkiyL5g00

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Win or lose, Trumpism will be a defining feature of GOP politics for at least the next decade or perhaps more, depending on what happens in the 2020 election.

Many political pundits view November 3rd as a national referendum on Trumpism, and the past four years of Donald Trump in the White House.

It’s hard to predict, because the GOP base tossed out the Bush family. I think the Trumps want to stay and influence the party. It’s well known most of the kids have political ambitions now. They are actively campaigning and getting Qanon supporters elected. I suppose they will take the party in the direction of conspiracy theory promotion, fake news, and non stop division.

Then there is Jared and Ivanka. They are supposedly more liberal than the other part of the family. I am not sure how liberal the base is willing to go, but they have thrown out so much, so why not go liberal for Jared and Ivanka?

And the old school republicans? What do they do? Leave the party or battle it out with the Trumps for control?
 

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it's already there.

it's what Rush and Sean have preached for decades.
 

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Yep

Right wing media created that deplorable Republican base. Now the GOP will have to live with it.

until the Limbaugh/Hannity congregation have all peacefully passed away.
 

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Where Is the Republican Party Heading? | The New York Times

Instead of adopting a new platform, the party declared its support for President Trump. But what will it support when Trump is gone?

3Teyrb_0WkiyL5g00

Donald Trump Jr. The heir apparent.



Win or lose, Trumpism will be a defining feature of GOP politics for at least the next decade or perhaps more, depending on what happens in the 2020 election.

Many political pundits view November 3rd as a national referendum on Trumpism, and the past four years of Donald Trump in the White House.

No president has ever adhered to their party's platform. In fact, primaries aren't about voting for the party. They are about voting for the person. It has always been stupid to have party platforms because they aren't followed anyway. Do you think Biden will actually kow tow to the Democratic platform 100%?
 

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It's all about trump for both sides. I personally don't see his crass bile spouting mouth attracting any more voters than he already has.

He doesn't have to. Leftist mobs burning and looting has created more Trump voters than his "crass bile spouting mouth" ever could.

We'll see come november if america has turned in the cult of trump or we are the better nation we say we seek.

All anyone has to do is look at the cities to see what Joe/Blow will do to America.
 

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Where Is the Republican Party Heading? | The New York Times

Instead of adopting a new platform, the party declared its support for President Trump. But what will it support when Trump is gone?

3Teyrb_0WkiyL5g00

Donald Trump Jr. The heir apparent.



Win or lose, Trumpism will be a defining feature of GOP politics for at least the next decade or perhaps more, depending on what happens in the 2020 election.

Many political pundits view November 3rd as a national referendum on Trumpism, and the past four years of Donald Trump in the White House.

Many have been saying for a while now that there is no Republican Party. The GOP no longer exists. They should change their name to reflect whatever the Trump Party believes in. You can bet all you own that the "Republican" senators and congressmen and women in Washington are NOT, have not, adhered to the principals of the former Republican Party. Most elected officials in the GOP, while having raised their hands and taken the oath of office, support Donald Trump before they support the Constitution and the rule of law. They are something other than Republicans.
 

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"Instead of adopting a new platform, the party declared its support for President Trump. But what will it support when Trump is gone?"

You could ask the Dem party the same question. It's now the party of anti-Trump. It's only goal is to defeat Trump. What will it do when Trump is gone?
 

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Instead of adopting a new platform, the party declared its support for President Trump. But what will it support when Trump is gone?

The GOP playbook has been pretty consistent for a while:

1. Line own pockets and those of the party's upper crust friends
2. Keep the fires of casual racism stoked and fabricate random Culture War issues to keep the base engaged
3. Laugh all the way to the bank

Trump's been following it to a T, he just doesn't have any finesse about it.
 

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"Instead of adopting a new platform, the party declared its support for President Trump. But what will it support when Trump is gone?"

You could ask the Dem party the same question. It's now the party of anti-Trump. It's only goal is to defeat Trump. What will it do when Trump is gone?

The only people who think that the Democratic platform is exclusively "anti-trump" are trump supporters. It's typical projection, really. Republicans are reflexively "anti-liberal" so they just assume everybody thinks like they do.
 

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The only people who think that the Democratic platform is exclusively "anti-trump" are trump supporters. It's typical projection, really. Republicans are reflexively "anti-liberal" so they just assume everybody thinks like they do.

Doesn't even make sense, since the GOP has decided to run against an imaginary Dem platform anyway. The incoherence of the GOP messaging this year seems to be taking a toll.
 

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Doesn't even make sense, since the GOP has decided to run against an imaginary Dem platform anyway. The incoherence of the GOP messaging this year seems to be taking a toll.

Right now the only messaging I can really perceive that isn't "I support Trump" is "Black city rioting anarchy looting coming for your suburban white women." It's less a message than a primal scream originating in the amygdala.
 

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btw: One of the speakers at the RNC convention last night was former Florida AG Pam Bondi, a Trump loyalist.

What the RNC didn't mention is that Ms. Bondi is a Registered Foreign Agent for Qater.

Qatar is currently under investigation for massive bribery/corruption involving hosting the 2022 World Cup games.
 

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The only people who think that the Democratic platform is exclusively "anti-trump" are trump supporters. It's typical projection, really. Republicans are reflexively "anti-liberal" so they just assume everybody thinks like they do.

I watched the DNC last week. It was from start to finish a constant drumbeat of "Orange Man Bad".

More specifically...

BLM says its goal is to Get Trump Out.
Black Lives Matter Co-Founder: 'Our Goal Is to Get Trump Out'

Lincoln Project says its goal is to defeat Trump and Trumpism
The Lincoln Project Co-Founder: '''Our Goal Is to Defeat Trump and Trumpism''' on Cheddar

Bernie Sanders urges supporters to support Biden to defeat Trump. "The price of failure is too great to imagine."
Sanders Urges Supporters to Back Biden and Defeat Trump

No info about what they will do after they defeat Trump. It's like they hadn't thought that far ahead.

The fact that you say the only people who point out your TDS must be Trump supporters proves my point. You are literally unable to think in terms that don't involve the man.
 

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I watched the DNC last week. It was from start to finish a constant drumbeat of "Orange Man Bad".

More specifically...

BLM says its goal is to Get Trump Out.
Black Lives Matter Co-Founder: 'Our Goal Is to Get Trump Out'

Lincoln Project says its goal is to defeat Trump and Trumpism
The Lincoln Project Co-Founder: '''Our Goal Is to Defeat Trump and Trumpism''' on Cheddar

Bernie Sanders urges supporters to support Biden to defeat Trump. "The price of failure is too great to imagine."
Sanders Urges Supporters to Back Biden and Defeat Trump

No info about what they will do after they defeat Trump. It's like they hadn't thought that far ahead.

The fact that you say the only people who point out your TDS must be Trump supporters proves my point. You are literally unable to think in terms that don't involve the man.

And why would we want to defeat Trump? Because of a host of policy issues he's dead wrong about.
 

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First I should say that I believe that the Democrats will win not only the presidential election , but the senate as well.

Trump has made the Republicans to walk over all bounders that has been held until now. Since the party has followed his lead, they will come out shattered after the election. Trump has managed to destroy the republican party from the inside.

By braking just about every implied agreement with the Democrat party, they have given the Democrats a carte blanche. Unfortunately, due to the connection the democrat party has to this system (of 2 parties) and the relations between the parties, the democrats have no choice but to use it (to uphold the system). The republican party will not be able to oppose anything that the democrats do with any credibility. They have traded that away. It will be a long time before the republican party recovers and will be a contender in future elections.

I am not sure that the democrats can hold the system up themselves, maybe it is the beginning of the end for this “2 parties system”. I don’t know. Hopefully it is a good thing, but I don’t know that either. (And if it is a good thing, Maybe Trump should be considered "a good thing" in the long run)
 

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Since Reagan/Bush the party has been heading down American Style Fascist Ave courtesy of ALEC. Don't expect Koch to change his mind.
 

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Where Is the Republican Party Heading?

Straight to hell.
 

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Just a clarification to previous post: The legitimacy of the US government lies in the fact that the majority of the population considers it elected by the people, despite all the obstacles that are inherent in the process. That legitimacy is preserved by the fact that there are 2 parties in the system that seem to be opposed to each other. That is what makes the invisible rules between the Republican and Democratic parties so important in maintaining the system.
 

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First thing the Republicans need to do is stop being a cult. The weird bootlicking is very off-putting.
 

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Just a clarification to previous post: The legitimacy of the US government lies in the fact that the majority of the population considers it elected by the people, despite all the obstacles that are inherent in the process. That legitimacy is preserved by the fact that there are 2 parties in the system that seem to be opposed to each other. That is what makes the invisible rules between the Republican and Democratic parties so important in maintaining the system.

Yet is is these two parties that brought the electoral college, rules of the Presidential Debate which is waste of time and how hard they work to keep a third party out of the picture yet they still are at considerable odds on so many issues. Maybe the DNC and the RNC should be dissolved?
 

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Yet is is these two parties that brought the electoral college, rules of the Presidential Debate which is waste of time and how hard they work to keep a third party out of the picture yet they still are at considerable odds on so many issues. Maybe the DNC and the RNC should be dissolved?
Maybe, I don't know what's the best outcome. We never know until we see the result of the outcome...
 
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