Where do you realy stand? (1 Viewer)

[Jerry]

This thread is not meant to debate abortion per-se, though I anticipate that the conversation will revert to such a debate, as most of these threads tend to do so sooner or later.

I have observed a number people make the error of claiming to be of one school of thought on abortion, when in fact they are another. I my self have made this error in claming to be pro-life in the past, yet my views are clearly anti-abortion.

I would like to know where you realy stand on abortion. What is your main focus in your views? What is your primary concern?

 

[TurtleDude]

This thread is not meant to debate abortion per-se, though I anticipate that the conversation will revert to such a debate, as most of these threads tend to do so sooner or later.

I have observed a number people make the error of claiming to be of one school of thought on abortion, when in fact they are another. I my self have made this error in claming to be pro-life in the past, yet my views are clearly anti-abortion.

I would like to know where you realy stand on abortion. What is your main focus in your views? What is your primary concern?

Me? I am not particularly religious so i don't have that obstacle in my way of deciding the issue

Ultimately, banning abortion will cause society far more harm than keeping it legal. I note that some of the extremists on the anti side want to use pregnancy as a punishment or stigma to impose on women for engaging in sex outside marriage. I know-I worked as a volunteer guard at a planned parenthood where my mother worked. I also find it contradictory that supposed haters of abortion hate birth control which leads me to conclude that its hatred of sex that really motivates some of them

on the other hand, I don't have much use for the abortion advocates who vote moonbat just on this issue-I think some of the left to lesbian women see abortion as a symbolic rite of castration.

 

[Jerry]

I just got the poll up…..sorry it took so long, Star Trek is on, good episode….

 

[FallingPianos]

I just got the poll up…..sorry it took so long, Star Trek is on, good episode….

Encounter at Farpoint?

 

[FallingPianos]

somewhere between choice 2 and 3. I think there should be some limitations, but very few.

 

[Jerry]

Encounter at Farpoint?

I don't recall the episode title, but it's when Picard arbitrates Gallron as Emperor and Warf gets his family name restored, then resigns his commission in Starfleet.

Space ship battles....cleavage....good music score.....oh yeah!

somewhere between choice 2 and 3. I think there should be some limitations, but very few.

What limitations would you like to see? What degree of choice would you like the mother to retain?

 

[TheNextEra]

Not enough choices.

I believe in a woman's right to choose abortions, but not at every point in the pregnancy. I also wouldn't encourage a woman to have one.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Very unbiased options, I voted 3 because im between 2 and 3. However who sets the limitations in #2 is what made me lean to 3. Also this poll doesnt address state level vs national.

Im morally opposed to abortion, but I believe the freedom to do so outweighs the bad apples who abuse it as birth control.

 

[Jerry]

Not enough choices.

I believe in a woman's right to choose abortions, but not at every point in the pregnancy. I also wouldn't encourage a woman to have one.

To the best of my knowledge the 4 choices I gave are the only 4 in existence. If you have encountered a fifth or sixth on a site or in the media I would love to know about it.

Your view sounds Anti-Abortion to me, as you would impose on a woman’s choice in a given criteria.

 

[Navy Pride]

I think abortions should only take place when the life of the mother is endangered or possibly in the case of rape and incest where the woman's mental health could be damaged.......Other then those reasons abortion should be banned..........

 

[Spartacus FPV]

I think abortions should only take place when the life of the mother is endangered or possibly in the case of rape and incest where the woman's mental health could be damaged.......Other then those reasons abortion should be banned..........

Does that mean that the act of an abortion procedure should require a conviction for rape/incest in order to be legal?

 

[Navy Pride]

Does that mean that the act of an abortion procedure should require a conviction for rape/incest in order to be legal?

Not to me it doesn't.........

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Then how does one qualify your qualification for abortion? Surely you understand the lags involved with such a qualification. If the trial should go beyond the 1st trimester, the victim may lose their window for said abortion.

 

[Navy Pride]

Then how does one qualify your qualification for abortion? Surely you understand the lags involved with such a qualification. If the trial should go beyond the 1st trimester, the victim may lose their window for said abortion.

I would hope that any woman inpregnanted in a rape or incest would carry the baby to term regardless of the circumstances but I can understand a wish to abort and would support it.....

 

[Indy]

I think abortion is ok withing reason. Late term abortions are rediculous and if the parents aren't adult enough to make the decision before then they should have to suffer through the pain of childbirth to learn their lesson.

 

[ModerateDem]

This thread is not meant to debate abortion per-se, though I anticipate that the conversation will revert to such a debate, as most of these threads tend to do so sooner or later.

I have observed a number people make the error of claiming to be of one school of thought on abortion, when in fact they are another. I my self have made this error in claming to be pro-life in the past, yet my views are clearly anti-abortion.

I would like to know where you realy stand on abortion. What is your main focus in your views? What is your primary concern?

The notions of Anti-abortion and pro-life are backwards. Pro-life does not say abortion is unacceptable in all cases Anti-abortion does. I would suggest and editing or New poll to reflect things more accurately before I vote on anything.

To clarify why I feel they are backwards i go by the definition of the terms involved.

Anti=against

Pro=for

 

[Spartacus FPV]

I would hope that any woman inpregnanted in a rape or incest would carry the baby to term regardless of the circumstances but I can understand a wish to abort and would support it.....

I understand and agree with your position completely. The problem is where do you legislate the line to be drawn? If NP was king what would be the pre-req's for an abortion?

 

[Vader]

I am not a huge propenent of abortion; however, I don't think that the opinions of one section of the population is sufficient cause to make it illegal.

Bill Clinton once said "Abortion should be safe, legal, and unecessary", and there is certain logic to that. I think the real key to solving this issue is teaching our teenagers how not to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

We cannot allow the far right to force their views on the entire free world by outlawing everything they don't agree with. Following that logic, it would be soon become illegal to be a liberal or even an honest business owner.

There are some areas that the government needs to avoid stiking their nose in; abortion is one of those issues.

Sometimes an abortion is medically necessary; I don't want to see a woman die because she was not legally allowed to undergo a procedure that would save her life.

That's my :twocents:.

 

[mpg]

The first choice describes "anti-abortion" and the second choice describes "pro-life". You mixed them up.

 

[mpg]

I also find it contradictory that supposed haters of abortion hate birth control

which leads me to conclude that its hatred of sex that really motivates some of them.

There's no contradiction there.

You don't have to hate sex to love virtue.

 

[mpg]

I am not a huge propenent of abortion; however, I don't think that the opinions of one section of the population is sufficient cause to make it illegal.

Bill Clinton once said "Abortion should be safe, legal, and unecessary", and there is certain logic to that. I think the real key to solving this issue is teaching our teenagers how not to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

We cannot allow the far right to force their views on the entire free world by outlawing everything they don't agree with. Following that logic, it would be soon become illegal to be a liberal or even an honest business owner.

There are some areas that the government needs to avoid stiking their nose in; abortion is one of those issues.

Sometimes an abortion is medically necessary; I don't want to see a woman die because she was not legally allowed to undergo a procedure that would save her life.

That's my :twocents:.

The majority isn't always right, but I still believe in majority rule. I believe that abortion should be illegal, but it's legal because the majority disagrees with me, so I have to accept it. If the majority changes its mind, then you'll have to accept it. That's how democracy works.

 

[Caine]

The majority isn't always right, but I still believe in majority rule. I believe that abortion should be illegal, but it's legal because the majority disagrees with me, so I have to accept it. If the majority changes its mind, then you'll have to accept it. That's how democracy works.

That is how democracy works.............

Its just too bad that the U.S. has a Republic form of government.

If not for our republic form of government.... blacks would still have thier own seperate bathrooms and all that crap.....

 

[Navy Pride]

The notions of Anti-abortion and pro-life are backwards. Pro-life does not say abortion is unacceptable in all cases Anti-abortion does. I would suggest and editing or New poll to reflect things more accurately before I vote on anything.

To clarify why I feel they are backwards i go by the definition of the terms involved.

Anti=against

Pro=for

That is simply no true....If you are 100% pro life you are against all abortions.......

 

[Navy Pride]

I understand and agree with your position completely. The problem is where do you legislate the line to be drawn? If NP was king what would be the pre-req's for an abortion?

I would have to say my personal belief is only if the mother's life is endangered and that is not to be taken as if her health is endangered.........Huge loophole there........

 

[Jerry]

The notions of Anti-abortion and pro-life are backwards. Pro-life does not say abortion is unacceptable in all cases Anti-abortion does. I would suggest and editing or New poll to reflect things more accurately before I vote on anything.

To clarify why I feel they are backwards i go by the definition of the terms involved.

Anti=against

Pro=for

I do not have it backwards.