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When will we know the outcome of the 2020 presidential election?

When will we know the outcome of the 2020 presidential election?

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joko104

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Mail-in ballots only have to be postmarked on the last day of the election. The post office and numerous states have claimed they are completely unprepared for mass mail-in ballots - every one of which has to be individually inspected - and then non-expert partisan election department employees deciding which ballots to throw out pretending they are handwriting experts for each and every ballot.

So... when, if ever, will we know the outcome of the 2020 election?
 

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TrumPutin and the GOPutin TrumpQins are an election away from destroying our Nation as we used to know it.

MAFIA —> Made America Fascist Italy Already —
 

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Mail-in ballots only have to be postmarked on the last day of the election. The post office and numerous states have claimed they are completely unprepared for mass mail-in ballots - every one of which has to be individually inspected - and then non-expert partisan election department employees deciding which ballots to throw out pretending they are handwriting experts for each and every ballot.

So... when, if ever, will we know the outcome of the 2020 election?

Four years of Trump and you guys can't even agree on how to have an election. Imagine after another four years how your country would be?
 

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Four years of Trump and you guys can't even agree on how to have an election. Imagine after another four years how your country would be?

This country is going in the same direction that Trump University went.
 

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Four years of Trump and you guys can't even agree on how to have an election. Imagine after another four years how your country would be?

Elections are run by each state, not Trump.

You guys?

Got anymore Grand Mal BS to spread around?
 

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Four years of Trump and you guys can't even agree on how to have an election. Imagine after another four years how your country would be?

These have been perilous times for four years. Just cleaning up COVID and Foreign Threats alone will take this whole decade. Don’t even mention the economy, the environment, or health care.

Don’t take your eyes off of Trump, no matter how difficult it is to listen to his insane word salad. He’s hit 3 battleground states in the Midwest today — MN, IA, WI — PA later this week.

Don’t forget about OH or MI either for the most important ‘province’ of America, the Midwest Six. The other two provinces are the Southeast//NC/TX and the 4-corners/NV.
 
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Elections are run by each state, not Trump.

You guys?

Got anymore Grand Mal BS to spread around?
Trump ordered the removal of mailboxes and sorting machines in black and brown areas, RetiredUSN, and you know it.

Why would you accuse another poster of spreading BS by NAME?

Why is Trump intentionally hurting Veterans, the Elderly, Rural folks, and Republicans by slowing down the delivery of medicines and medical devices to them?
 

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Trump ordered the removal of mailboxes and sorting machines in black and brown areas, RetiredUSN, and you know it.

Why would you accuse another poster of spreading BS by NAME?

Why is Trump intentionally hurting Veterans, the Elderly, Rural folks, and Republicans by slowing down the delivery of medicines and medical devices to them?

Will medicines be delivered late?
 

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Trump ordered the removal of mailboxes and sorting machines in black and brown areas, RetiredUSN, and you know it.

Why would you accuse another poster of spreading BS by NAME?

Why is Trump intentionally hurting Veterans, the Elderly, Rural folks, and Republicans by slowing down the delivery of medicines and medical devices to them?

Then is should be easy to post a link to the order Trump signed to remove mailboxes in "black and brown areas" and to eliminate sorting machines. I won't hold my breathe waiting.

The DNC has ordered and is financing ANTIFA to put protesters/riots at white area polling places and to steal mail in ballots out of white areas mailboxes. I'll post a link to prove it as soon as you post a link to the order you claim Trump signed.
 

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Trump ordered the removal of mailboxes and sorting machines in black and brown areas, RetiredUSN, and you know it.

Why would you accuse another poster of spreading BS by NAME?

Why is Trump intentionally hurting Veterans, the Elderly, Rural folks, and Republicans by slowing down the delivery of medicines and medical devices to them?

All you posted are just typical MSM lies. There is no post office delays. We ship daily including by the post office and deliveries aren't slowed in the slightest.
 
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Mail-in ballots only have to be postmarked on the last day of the election. The post office and numerous states have claimed they are completely unprepared for mass mail-in ballots - every one of which has to be individually inspected - and then non-expert partisan election department employees deciding which ballots to throw out pretending they are handwriting experts for each and every ballot.

So... when, if ever, will we know the outcome of the 2020 election?

joko
You have a good set of questions there.

Below is a message from me to another blog site.
I am trying to understand the mass media can call this USPS situation a crisis when, as I understand it, it is within the control of the state election officials to get ballots out there to the voters early so that voters (at least those who are not brain dead) can mail in the ballots in time for them to be received, sorted, and counted before election night?
Does that seem like a big problem to anyone?
Is there a conspiracy afoot that I am missing?
Is the Administration doing anything to block this process that is in control of state election officials and the voters?


(here's my message to another set of readers)
Please enlighten me. Are Democrats who believe Trump is trying to sabotage the voting process simply ignorant or are they just nefarious in their attempt to (once again) paint Trump as evil?
What is wrong with the advice the USPS is giving state election officials?


Of course, both parties are trying to use the issue of mail-in voting to their advantage. But is the voting public smart enough to understand it is up to them to request a mail-in ballot early and the mail in their vote early? And of course, state officials need to get the ballot out there early.

from today's Wall St Journal:


The Postal Service’s Good Election Advice
This isn’t sabotage. It’s an attempt to avoid state election failure
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Aug. 16, 2020 3:40 pm ET



News broke Friday that the U.S. Postal Service has warned dozens of states, via letters from USPS General Counsel Thomas Marshall, that their deadlines “for requesting and casting mail-in ballots are incongruous with the Postal Service’s delivery standards.” On cue, Democrats and the press portrayed this as evidence of Trumpian sabotage and voter suppression.

In reality, it’s closer to the opposite: an attempt by the USPS to forestall state election failure. The letters were planned before the new Postmaster General, Louis DeJoy, took the reins on June 15. Mr. Marshall sent nearly identical advice to election officials in a May letter posted at USPS.com. Strange public conspiracy.


“To account for delivery standards and to allow for contingencies (e.g., weather issues or unforeseen events), voters should mail their return ballots at least 1 week prior to the due date,” Mr. Marshall wrote in May. The same rule, he added, should apply to blank ballots: “The Postal Service also recommends that state or local election officials use FirstClass Mail and allow 1 week for delivery to voters.”



That seven-day deadline “is unrealistic,” Douglas Kellner, co-chair of the New York State Board of Elections, testified in court last month. The state board has argued for moving it back to 14 days, in line with the USPS suggestion of allowing seven days for delivery each way. Is Mr. Kellner complicit in postal sabotage?

Some states have even shorter deadlines. “Requests to have an absent voter ballot mailed to you must be received by your clerk no later than 5 p.m. the Friday before the election,” says Michigan’s Secretary of State. That’s a mere four days (including a Sunday) before the voting. If a Michigander files a request on Oct. 30, how realistic is it to expect that the ballot can be processed, mailed, voted and return mailed—all by Nov. 3?

The USPS understandably does not want to be set up for failure, which is evident in the laconic comment of its spokeswoman. “The Postal Service,” she said Friday, “is asking election officials and voters to realistically consider how the mail works.”

President Trump isn’t helping Mr. DeJoy with his contradictory claims that mail voting will be “rigged,” even as he says the USPS needs more money to execute it. But Democrats are as culpable for spinning post-office conspiracies without evidence. Barack Obama fed the political misinformation feedback loop on a podcast Friday by saying President Trump is trying to “actively kneecap the Postal Service.” On Saturday morning, protesters followed the former President’s lead and banged pots and pans outside Mr. DeJoy’s Washington, D.C., condo.

The people who really need a wake-up call are election officials in states like Michigan and New York, and the media are giving them a pass.
 
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To answer the poll question. We will know at the end of election night that Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States.
 

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Trump ordered the removal of mailboxes and sorting machines in black and brown areas, RetiredUSN, and you know it.

Why would you accuse another poster of spreading BS by NAME?

Why is Trump intentionally hurting Veterans, the Elderly, Rural folks, and Republicans by slowing down the delivery of medicines and medical devices to them?

Why are you reaching conclusions on arguments for which you have no references or evidence??
why do you assume the mail is being slowed down?

Have you seen this yet?

Postal Service: We Will Stop Removing Mailboxes Ahead Of Election Day
The White House chief of staff also said that mail-sorting machines will not be removed “between now and the election.”
By Ja’han Jones

Postal Service: We Will Stop Removing Mailboxes Ahead Of Election Day | HuffPost
 

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Why is Trump interfering with state decisions?

Where is the evidence Trump is interfering in state decisions?
There are 50 different states and territories. Every state has their own state election officials.
Are you telling us Trump is telling them all what to do?
 

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A winner will be declared by Nov 4th. Then the loser will cry foul and make excuses and unfounded accusations. We will know the answer by the 4th, but it will drag out until roughly 3 months into the first of many criminal trials in someone's future.
 

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Will medicines be delivered late?

Medicines and Medical Devices have already been delivered late to Veterans, the Elderly, and Rural Voters.
 

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Where is the evidence Trump is interfering in state decisions?
There are 50 different states and territories. Every state has their own state election officials.
Are you telling us Trump is telling them all what to do?

Have you seen the piles of mailboxes removed from black and brown locales. How about the hundreds of automatic mail sorters taken off line. Imagine your outrage if a Democrat did this a few months before a presidential election.
 

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Where is the evidence Trump is interfering in state decisions?
There are 50 different states and territories. Every state has their own state election officials.
Are you telling us Trump is telling them all what to do?

Trump is broadcasting his belief that the states cannot run a fair election. He has withheld funding for the Post Office. He appointed a Post Office Master who has no experience in that area, other than his massive investments in private carriers, who is busy removing sorting machines, shuffling supervisors and ripping mail boxes off city streets. What evidence do you require?
 

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To answer the poll question. We will know at the end of election night that Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States.

How will that happen?
 

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Have you seen the piles of mailboxes removed from black and brown locales. How about the hundreds of automatic mail sorters taken off line. Imagine your outrage if a Democrat did this a few months before a presidential election.

:roll: The Post Office has been removing corner mailboxes for decades as people treat them like trash cans. Every mailbox is a post office mailing box.

Next Democrats will be ranting claiming Trump is remove public phone booths.
 

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Obama engaged in mass voter suppression by eliminating thousands and thousands of mailboxes.

[h=1]USPS flashback: Obama administration removed thousands of mailboxes[/h][h=2]2016 report: 'Nationally the number of collection boxes declined by more than 12,000 in the past five years'[/h]
USPS flashback: Obama administration removed thousands of mailboxes | Fox News

Obama's photos should be removed from the White House for his outrageous criminal suppression of voting. I am confident most Democrats on this forum agree that Obama was colluding with the Post Master to suppress voting.
 

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This is not going to be close. Joe Biden has managed so far because the 60% of the population that does not follow politics closely has not been paying attention.
 

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Have you seen the piles of mailboxes removed from black and brown locales. How about the hundreds of automatic mail sorters taken off line. Imagine your outrage if a Democrat did this a few months before a presidential election.

I live in OR and would not be outraged at all. Will live a couple of miles from the drop off box.
We have been dropping off our ballots into the same box for 15 years.
You are making a mountain out of an imaginary mole hill.
Mailboxes are no longer being taken off line - in any state.
You are panicking over something that is not being done.
But, then again, your hatred for Trump needs to be stoked on a regular basis.
After all, there's only about 80 days until the election.
 
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