When will we hear this??

[MaggieD]

From Raum Emanuel, perhaps (Mayor of Chicago). Or Jesse Jackson. Or Al Sharpton:

Law enforcement alone is not going to make your neighborhoods safe. More gun laws are not going to make your neighborhoods safe. You are going to make your neighborhoods safe. How?? you ask. And the answer is that you must STOP giving gang bangers quarter. This latest shooting in Chicago?? At least a half-dozen people know who did this. You simply must come forward. When YOU, your family and friends decide you've had enough? You must put a stop to the cycle of violence in your community that lets thugs rule the streets with impunity. Neither law enforcement, gun laws, nor President Obama can help you until you make up your minds that you're going to help yourselves.

Messages like this need to be hammered home at every single opportunity. Rewards offered. Community meetings held. People start wearing "Snitches Die" T-shirts? Arrested for terrorist threats. Is it time to end the killing? Or don't we care 'cause it's not near our house?

 

[trfjr]

From Raum Emanuel, perhaps (Mayor of Chicago). Or Jesse Jackson. Or Al Sharpton:



Messages like this need to be hammered home at every single opportunity. Rewards offered. Community meetings held. People start wearing "Snitches Die" T-shirts? Arrested for terrorist threats. Is it time to end the killing? Or don't we care 'cause it's not near our house?

when the police come in to shake these minority neighborhoods down looking for those illegal guns and gang bangers you know like stop and frisk
Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton will be screaming racism and profiling

 

[ttwtt78640]

From Raum Emanuel, perhaps (Mayor of Chicago). Or Jesse Jackson. Or Al Sharpton:



Messages like this need to be hammered home at every single opportunity. Rewards offered. Community meetings held. People start wearing "Snitches Die" T-shirts? Arrested for terrorist threats. Is it time to end the killing? Or don't we care 'cause it's not near our house?

When the probability of a criminal conviction exceeds the probability of street justice for snitching - only then will we see this happen. It is easy to say that you would report a crime, by turning in your neighbor, but that becomes much less likely when you live in a neighborhood where you know that your neighbor belongs to a gang which will make sure that you will never live to tesitify.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

Messages like this need to be hammered home at every single opportunity. Rewards offered. Community meetings held. People start wearing "Snitches Die" T-shirts? Arrested for terrorist threats. Is it time to end the killing? Or don't we care 'cause it's not near our house?

When the problem goes beyond the superficial, it is not enough to simply and eloquently state how things should be, no matter how often and how passionately you do it. If you take it a step further and start throwing people in jail for not singing your tune, you'll only aggravate an already open wound. Either flavor would be like telling someone who is clinically depressed that they should snap out of it because of this list of things going right in their life -- in both cases you're addressing the symptoms rather than the cause, and in so doing the best case scenario is that you don't make it worse.

Yes, in cities across America there are neighbors that are ****ty. There are neighborhoods that are the American equivalent of war zones. There are neighborhoods that, for all intents and purposes, would be modern-day ghost towns if it weren't for the criminal activity taking place within their boundaries. It's horrible, it's tragic, it should make us all cry and scream and shake our fists.

What are needed are viable alternatives and genuine hope. Some of the ****tiness is due to the fact that the people involved don't see better choices and don't have any hope, some of it is because they were born into the ****tiness and don't see another way of doing business.

 

[joko104]

Easy words for a person who lives and works in a very secure location with an army protecting him. It is entirely different when you barely live hand-to-mouth AND it is illegal fir you to even arm to defend yourself. BUT even with a firearm I don't think people truly grasp how dangerous certain areas of Chicago are.

The other reality that him or no one else will ever say is that while they don't like the murder statistic in general - and of course murder isn't the only huge levels of violent crime - is that in certain areas of Chicago police and the system don't particularly care about any specific crime. In general police don't even want to get out of the cruisers in those areas and the jail time for those caught is typically trivial and not hardly worth the effort.

I won't go really into this, but it is criminal elements that are more law enforcement in such neighbhorhoods than are the police. They sometimes do have motives to stop and punish "wrongdoers" - and they do not have the restrictions the police have. It is virtually lawless, has been for many decades. A nice speech isn't going to change that.

The solutions are complex and extreme. Most people should just get out of there. some entire blocks should be bulldozed down.