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Are they? I'm not seeing it when the federal government can control what kind of lightbulb or toilet I am allowed to manufacture or buy, what the gas mileage on my automobile must be, refuse me the right to use my own property as I choose, confiscate any portion of my personal property they choose to take, dictate the kind of healthcare I am required to buy, and can launch a federal investigation of my activities just because I am accused of being politically incorrect.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
And when the government steps in and lessens the rate of poverty?
Which is better - an "unfettered" life where more are living in poverty, or a life where the government takes action to do that which lessens the rate of poverty among the people?
The poll asks specifically about freedom. It doesn't ask when the US was better.And when the government steps in and lessens the rate of poverty?
Which is better - an "unfettered" life where more are living in poverty, or a life where the government takes action to do that which lessens the rate of poverty among the people?
And as I've pointed out so often before, you pay anyway. You'll either pay to help the poor and indigent through your taxes...or you'll pay for what happens when they have zero support in the form of higher taxes for more police, more court cases, more prisons, and in the form of higher prices because the more homeless there are near a business, the fewer people will go to that business, the higher the insurance rates for businesses will be, and the higher the crime rates will be.
Like I said, you pay anyway. You'll either pay to help them and maybe even give them the opportunity to rise above their station...or you'll pay for what happens when they become homeless.
Personally I think the first option makes a lot more sense.
The poll asks specifically about freedom. It doesn't ask when the US was better.
Safety and freedom are polar opposites. A free society has no safety. A safe society has no freedom. The trick is finding the right balance. We are more balanced today than we were in the 1800's. People running rampant and committing crimes represents a high level of freedom. Freedom is the topic of discussion.
Whether freedom is a good thing or a bad thing would be a different discussion altogether. That's a discussion I would enjoy being involved. Freedom isn't as great as we make it out to be.
I strongly disagree that safety and freedom are polar opposites. Perhaps you'd be better off defining what freedom means to you...because to me, being able to send my child to school without worrying about whether he'll be shot is a freedom that's a heck of a lot more important than the freedom to carry a pistol into a Wal-Mart.
The poll asks specifically about freedom. It doesn't ask when the US was better.
being able to send my child to school without worrying about whether he'll be shot is a freedom
Nope. That has absolutely nothing at all to do with freedom. Do you need a dictionary?
Nope. That has absolutely nothing at all to do with freedom. Do you need a dictionary?
They both are, but as far as the latter is concerned, I hope you aren't confusing the pursuit of happiness with happiness.Having guns ain't freedom - having the opportunity to LIVE a LONGER, HEALTHIER certainly is.
Was it before the Civil War, or before WWI, or before the Civil Rights Act, or today?
And why do you think so?
I'm very impressed with the results of this thread. I am in the minority. If you ran another thread that ask this question:
When did America have the best balance of Freedom and Safety?
I would have answered with the majority. I did see some good points though. I guess the economic freedom is the part that has changed for the worse but that isn't as big a priority according to the results of this poll. Either that or my view of the world is a little skewed. I can also see why women or blacks would have a different perspective. Their economic freedom is better today than during other parts of U.S. History.
This is a very good poll and a very good thread. Good job Glen Contrarian.
I didn't expect that - thanks!
That is a really good question. I am going to think about it.Was it before the Civil War, or before WWI, or before the Civil Rights Act, or today?
And why do you think so?
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