"When somebody burns the American flag they should go to jail for one year!"

[HIP56948]

I agree. It's symbolic. It's a copy. Naturally, if someone broke into the National Museum of American History and burned THE Flag, I'm sure we would both have a problem with that but destroying a copy? Nope...Free speech. One other thing. Some people get so outraged over burning a flag but seem to be OK with all the other things that intentionally destroy the peace and well being of this country. Looking at Alex Jones, Fox and many others.

 

[Sidd Finch]

People burning the flag don't worry me nearly as much as some people who wave it.

The meatheads with giant flags completely torn up by the wind, flying in the back of a giant loud pick up truck. Not to be trusted.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Flag burning is legal and it should be...

Anybody that gets upset over a cloth symbol being destroyed has problems..

Actually, that is why flags are burned, to upset somebody and draw attention to whatever their cause is.

For example, if a state were to prevent me and some friends from voting in an election because "it is the quality of the vote that counts" then I might be inclined to burn a flag at my polling place, just to let them know I noticed what they did to me and my friends.

 

[Bodi]

Actually, that is why flags are burned, to upset somebody and draw attention to whatever their cause is.

For example, if a state were to prevent me and some friends from voting in an election because "it is the quality of the vote that counts" then I might be inclined to burn a flag at my polling place, just to let them know I noticed what they did to me and my friends.

That has nothing to do with what I said...

 

[TalkingWithFruit]

I think trumps heart was in the right place, because he was trying to unite the divided American populous under pride in America and hate for people who hate America. But in trying to unite Americans he made a hypocritical idea. I dont think it should be illegal to burn the flag because it doesn't harm citizens or the government.

 

[AmNat]

You are destroying constitutional values. You dont care about American values just like all other jingoists and nationalists.

The constitution allowed flag burning to be criminalized for the first two hundred years of its existence.

 

[NewfieMom]

The constitution allowed flag burning to be criminalized for the first two hundred years of its existence.

I love how we anthropomorphize the Constitution.

 

[Bodi]

The constitution allowed flag burning to be criminalized for the first two hundred years of its existence.

Not anymore than it allowed segregation, slavery, discrimination, etc. (which were all later overturned as UNconstitutional

So no, it didn't...

 

[Questerr]

The constitution allowed flag burning to be criminalized for the first two hundred years of its existence.

It also allowed non-whites to be discriminated against for the same time period.

 

[AmNat]

It also allowed non-whites to be discriminated against for the same time period.

Yes, the Constitution used to protect freedom of association.

 

[Glitch]

i wonder how many years disgracing the highest office in the land via willfully ignorant narcissistic buffoonery should be worth.

Be nice, Biden was just selected to be President. So he has at least another four years of willful ignorant narcissistic buffoonery, not to mention dementia, yet to come.

 

[Glitch]

Yes, the Constitution used to protect freedom of association.

It still does, despite leftist filth trying to take it away with their illegal social distancing mandates.

 

[Helix]

Be nice, Biden was just selected to be President. So he has at least another four years of willful ignorant narcissistic buffoonery, not to mention dementia, yet to come.

unintentionally ironic

 

[mrjurrs]

You claimed that outlawing flag burning would be a slippery slope leaping to some sort of Orwellian dystopia. Historically you are wrong. America has become far more Orwellian since the discovery that flag burning is protected than before.



When people burn the flag, they're generally not burning it because they dislike colored material. They generally do it to express contempt for the American nation. No sane healthy society would tolerate such behavior.

It is protected political speech. Personally, I'll take that over the 'sane healthy' autocratic government that would criminalize it.

 

[bomberfox]

We should be burning the confederate flag more often but i digress .

 

[AmNat]

It is protected political speech.

It was not for the first two hundred years of the country's existence.

 

[mrjurrs]

It was not for the first two hundred years of the country's existence.

And slavery was. Your point?

 

[Nickyjo]

I think what happened in US political culture was that in the activist 1960s, some conservatives came up with an “America Love it or Leave it” message to say, Vietnam war protestors, painting them as disloyal. (There actually was such an immature bumper sticker around.) The left countered with a equally immature response, “Oh yeah, here’s what I think of your flag,” and burned it. When one person wraps itself in the flag, I can’t hit him without hitting the flag. A thread that runs through US conservatism is/used to be an equation of criticism of government with disloyalty. Nixon’s Interior Sec said he divided people into “liberals.. and Americans. We still see a version of that a bit on DP, when accusations of socialism and communism surface, and the GOP has certainly made “socialist” replace “pinko” as a sort of epithet. It’s similar in a way to Third Reich analogies used to stop arguments.

 

[American]

If Biden came out and said something as disdainful to the First Amendment as that, I wouldn't vote for him.

That's the difference between you and I, Adverse.... if this were 1933 Germany, you would have voted for Hitler because he was good for the economy. You might not have agreed with all the brown-shirted stormtroopers and all of that nastiness, but you would have looked the other way because you "mostly support his agenda."

Face it... you're a Franz von Papen.

A complete mischaracterization of the OP.

 

[American]

And slavery was. Your point?

What does slavery have to do with flag burning?

 

[vegas giants]

It was not for the first two hundred years of the country's existence.

Prove that

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[mrjurrs]

What does slavery have to do with flag burning?

Not sure, I don't see what Nat Am says anymore. I don't spend time with posters that have told me they believe the election was stolen.

 

[Olddemocrat]

You claimed that outlawing flag burning would be a slippery slope leaping to some sort of Orwellian dystopia. Historically you are wrong. America has become far more Orwellian since the discovery that flag burning is protected than before.



When people burn the flag, they're generally not burning it because they dislike colored material. They generally do it to express contempt for the American nation. No sane healthy society would tolerate such behavior.

It is only the sane, healthy society which does tolerate it.