(part 2 of 3, in reply to Msg #80)
FALSE. An unborn human does not qualify as a "being". Try these phrases to see why: "intelligent being", "alien being", "extraterrestrial being", "frog being", "snail being", "fetus being". Beings are persons! Unborn humans don't qualify as persons, any more than do frogs or snails. They are simply "humans", not "human beings" ...
TRUE. The average rat is also created through no fault of its own. So?
A rat is only doing what nature programmed. A mosquito is only doing what nature programmed. So?
WHAT, NO MANICURES ALLOWED? Exposing such idiocy is exactly why The Cuticle Cell Argument was written. Human life is not inherently special... PERSONS are special. That's why it would be murder to kill an extraterrestrial alien intelligent being.
I WROTE IT. AND FACTS ARE FACTS.
THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE A CHILD WALKING AROUND, FEEL FREE TO CALL HIM OR HER A FETUS. You want to be Logically Consistent, don't you?
THAT YOU HAVE A TOTAL LACK OF ABILITY TO POINT OUT VALID FLAWS IN MY ARGUMENTS....
ANIMALS ARE ANIMALS. Why should one type be considered more important than lots of other types? Stupid Prejudice? Tsk, tsk!
WE ARE DOING THAT ALREADY. Or at least we are working on it
MAYBE. BUT INDIVIDUALS AND ENTIRE SPECIES ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS...
SO MIGHT MAKES RIGHT? Why is your choice to swat a mosquito superior to the mosquito's "choice" (genetically programmed biological-robotic drive) to suck your blood? ...
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS AND ENTIRE SPECIES... Ecologies depend on "keystone" species surviving, and we don't always know which species are the keystones[/URL].
Fortunately you don't get to make those command decisions, just need a couple good supreme court justices having human feelings, understanding life. Your callousness to fellow humans is noted... discarded. A live comatose/brain dead 12 year old is still a human being. Just because you are temporarily, or even permanently, incapacitated does not rob you of your being, humanity nor person hood.
So, easy---rats are not human. You despise most things human, that does not make it a requirement for the rest of us. We caring and compassionate sorts.
Lived on the planet probably longer than you, studied history, politics, life/society probably far more than you could ever think to. You have no proven understanding, an agenda is all. Shallow observations on wanted and unwanted are easily dismissed. 1. In a wanted pregnancy if the human at whatever stage does not perform and naturally dies, itself is to be blamed. IF
another entity, the mother/doctor/etc..., causes the death of the human in whatever stage of development, those causing the death are to blame. What is so hard to get about that? 2. An artist etc... can destroy his own property, humans in our country, since the 13th amendment, cannot be owned as property... so your analogy is irrelevant to the conversation.
***Note that I am not going to go back a read every post you ever posted on the subject, especially seeing as you do not have the ability to understand/complete an argument logically, proven by 1&2 above... besides which dolphinocean already destroyed your pitiful substitutes for arguments***
See above re: rats.
Cuticles do NOT become humans, how many times must you be informed of that FACT?
Your article is solelyan attempt to make a cuticle programmed cell something it specifically is not, a zygote. If the same, the cuticle would, unless dying naturally/murdered, go on to later stages of human life. A cuticle and zygote are simply not synonymous. Facts are facts.
I ll call a child walking around a child ... just like the child in a pregnant woman. They are synoymous except one is in an earlier stage of development. What don't you get about that? Mental block, is it incompetence, callous disregard, willful choice?
I've pointed out several, certainly not all, of the flaws. You are just too stubborn/obstinate and choose blindness over what could/should be epiphany.
When one type animal is so far superior to others, then value its established. Why would anyone value a sweet new BMW over a tricycle? Its obvious to most of us. Sorry, cannot work miracles, you have to try to understand on your own.
Not depriving future generations, but you are advocating the murder of current generations.
Yes, individuals are important just as species can be important. We should be striving to most, not murder the one so that the other might live.
If we could destroy all mosquitoes, down here the chitras, I would advocate mightily for that.
I think we;ll survive. If not you will get your destruction of mankind you desire. The world will be left with only nature destroying/recreating... which is what is actually happening now, ha ha ha... you are just to blind to see.