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When Did Systemic Racism End?

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You already supplied a simple answer, black cultural values. If it's not your answer to my question, why would you post it?
Because I was answering this question "Does 'culture' drive racial disparities in criminal justice and healthcare?"
 
Because I was answering this question "Does 'culture' drive racial disparities in criminal justice and healthcare?"
Again, I admire your commitment to replying to my posts but not actually answering the questions. Have a great day!
 
Again, I admire your commitment to replying to my posts but not actually answering the questions. Have a great day!
You asked, I answered. That it wasn't the answer you wanted is not my problem.

You have a lovely day, too.
 
Well I'm not a "Conservative" but I would say that since we have minority lawyers, doctors, SCOTUS Justices, Congresspeople, and even a minority President, that cries of "Waaaa systemic racism!!" are falling short.
I acknowledge the problems in the past and racial history in the US but I think that until here recently we were moving beyond it pretty well.
Now: *sigh*.
I just dont know. Theres a lot of White Guilt out there IMO and racism against Whites, a lot of finger pointing and scapegoating.
I'm not sure we're moving in the right direction anymore.

So, systemic racism ended the first time a black person got a law degree?

That's... a curious claim.
 
Systemic racism will only be seen as ended when it ceases to help Democrats get elected.
 
You already supplied a simple answer, black cultural values. If it's not your answer to my question, why would you post it?
He doesn't like the way it sounds when someone else says it.
 
You’re the one who’s complaining. So I take it that all you have is complaints and not solutions.

Complaining? No, just a constructive suggestion. Not sure why it bothers you.

I've seen many threads on many boards descend into idiocy as people argue about some concept without a definition. Anything about "socialism" is almost sure to go that way.
 
when Reagan was elected.
 
Well I'm not a "Conservative" but I would say that since we have minority lawyers, doctors, SCOTUS Justices, Congresspeople, and even a minority President, that cries of "Waaaa systemic racism!!" are falling short.
I acknowledge the problems in the past and racial history in the US but I think that until here recently we were moving beyond it pretty well.
Now: *sigh*.
I just dont know. Theres a lot of White Guilt out there IMO and racism against Whites, a lot of finger pointing and scapegoating.
I'm not sure we're moving in the right direction anymore.
As long as people like you pretend that there is such a thing as white racism, then this problem will never be solved
 
I think even conservatives will agree that systemic racism was indeed a very real problem in the past. What else could one call the slave economy and Jim Crow laws of the South, the red-lining of cities, etc? But most conservatives say systemic racism is no longer an issue. So when exactly did it end?
It hasn't ended. The guy you and the other progressives here voted for co-wrote the 1994 crime bill which drastically increased systemic racism. His VP, which you and the other progressives here voted for, used that law to enforce systemic racism.
 
Right. But we have the Civil Rights Act after Kennedy. Because "civil rights" was an issue of the 60s.
If JFK were alive today, he would NO WAY approve of taking a dump on the flag & nation, he would not approve of any rioting and looting and he would never lie and call those "protests". He would tell people to obey the laws, cooperate with Police, dont resist arrest and

"Ask NOT what your country can do for YOU, ask what YOU can do for your country..."

You don't have a clue about JFK OR the current situation, including how right-wing vandals use the protests as cover for their crimes.
 
when Reagan was elected.
Reagan's election had no effect on racism one way or another. Obama's election was a big step forward, but did not end systemic racism. Trump's election didn't end or start racism, but did help to bring it out of the closet. Making it OK to once again express racist views may actually help end it, as people will see racism for what it is and reject it.
 
You don't have a clue about JFK OR the current situation, including how right-wing vandals use the protests as cover for their crimes.

Oh, but I *do* Craig.
JFK would agree with me and disagree with you.
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Reagan's election had no effect on racism one way or another. Obama's election was a big step forward, but did not end systemic racism. Trump's election didn't end or start racism, but did help to bring it out of the closet. Making it OK to once again express racist views may actually help end it, as people will see racism for what it is and reject it.
Reagan's election returned our country to the 1950s (in many eyes).

So, a ton of people thought it was under control again.
 
I think even conservatives will agree that systemic racism was indeed a very real problem in the past. What else could one call the slave economy and Jim Crow laws of the South, the red-lining of cities, etc? But most conservatives say systemic racism is no longer an issue. So when exactly did it end?
Systemic racism is gone in the U.S. Are there individuals who are racist living in the U.S. today, I'm pretty sure that there are, both white and black. I don't agree with the often stated claim that minorities can't be racist. Anyone can be if he just disliked another because of their skin color. Racism is America and any other country likely exists but the idea that it's systemic is just propaganda. Sine the end of slavery in America the nation has made innumerable strides in correcting the countries past. Some just don't want to admit it because it doesn't serve their political agenda. Nothing wrong with remembering history or teaching history, that's how we know who we were and who we are and where we are trying to go. Claims of systemic racism today are just as racist as some of the things that happened over our countries history. Don't ignore the huge improvements and don't exaggerate what is happening in America and don't cover up bad behavior on either side.
 
Systemic racism is gone in the U.S. Are there individuals who are racist living in the U.S. today, I'm pretty sure that there are, both white and black. I don't agree with the often stated claim that minorities can't be racist. Anyone can be if he just disliked another because of their skin color. Racism is America and any other country likely exists but the idea that it's systemic is just propaganda. Sine the end of slavery in America the nation has made innumerable strides in correcting the countries past. Some just don't want to admit it because it doesn't serve their political agenda. Nothing wrong with remembering history or teaching history, that's how we know who we were and who we are and where we are trying to go. Claims of systemic racism today are just as racist as some of the things that happened over our countries history. Don't ignore the huge improvements and don't exaggerate what is happening in America and don't cover up bad behavior on either side.
So, if all things being equal, a white person and a black person get caught with weed or apply for an apartment or go the Dr and get treated differently, why does that happen?

(Feel free to Google - racial disparity, healthcare, housing, justice system for more info.)
 
Systemic racism is gone in the U.S. Are there individuals who are racist living in the U.S. today, I'm pretty sure that there are, both white and black. I don't agree with the often stated claim that minorities can't be racist. Anyone can be if he just disliked another because of their skin color. Racism is America and any other country likely exists but the idea that it's systemic is just propaganda. Sine the end of slavery in America the nation has made innumerable strides in correcting the countries past. Some just don't want to admit it because it doesn't serve their political agenda. Nothing wrong with remembering history or teaching history, that's how we know who we were and who we are and where we are trying to go. Claims of systemic racism today are just as racist as some of the things that happened over our countries history. Don't ignore the huge improvements and don't exaggerate what is happening in America and don't cover up bad behavior on either side.

"There are good people on both sides" is how Trump phrased it when asked about the WHITE SUPREMACIST march at Charlottesville in which one of them ran over and killed a counter-protestor.
Really? What sort of "good" person would want to join an advertised WHITE SUPREMACIST march?
 
"There are good people on both sides" is how Trump phrased it when asked about the WHITE SUPREMACIST march at Charlottesville in which one of them ran over and killed a counter-protestor.
Really? What sort of "good" person would want to join an advertised WHITE SUPREMACIST march?
Complete BS. That is not what Trump said. He condemned the white the supremacists at that march.
 
I think even conservatives will agree that systemic racism was indeed a very real problem in the past. What else could one call the slave economy and Jim Crow laws of the South, the red-lining of cities, etc? But most conservatives say systemic racism is no longer an issue. So when exactly did it end?
"Racism" is an Orwellian term of (intentionally) vague and indeterminate meaning. It has always been so.

If you're asking when America went from being (putatively) governed in the interests of whites to (putatively) governed in the interests of blacks, that change occurred during the 1940's, 50's and 60's (it did not occur all at once because USG is not a unitary entity).
 
Complete BS. That is not what Trump said. He condemned the white the supremacists at that march.
When a person dances around condemning white supremacy and then has others explain his statements and then backtracks the explanation, that is not condemnation.

- Trump's initial statement did not specifically condemn white supremacy.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides."

-The WHITE HOUSE issued a statement of condemnation specifically calling out white supremacy and 'splained Trump's statement.

"The president said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry and hatred, and of course that includes white supremacists, KKK, neo-nazi, and all extremists groups. he called for national unity and bringing all americans together,"

- A few days later at an infrastructure (LOL) press conference, Trump backtracks.

you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.
 
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