When did healthcare problems start?

[Boo Radley]

Yet people could still find quality doctors. Just go to an institution that you trust. This isn't difficult. Also, remember that malpractice suits wouldn't go away and neither would fraud cases. If you say you can do something and you can't then you'll probably be charged with fraud.

how would you know? How are you measuring quaility? Many trust people they shouldn't.

But you really aren't answering my argument. technology plays a larger role. The world before technological advances was so different that there is no way to go back to what was then. There will be standards now. No treating mostly at home with hosptials and tests being rare. No return to home remidies and acceptance of untrained or limitedly trained pracnitioners. We are simply too different today to return to where we were, and too different to make healthcare affordable to anywhere near everyone without insurance and aid.

 

[phattonez]

how would you know? How are you measuring quaility? Many trust people they shouldn't.

Businesses that want to keep a good reputation will only hire good doctors.

But you really aren't answering my argument. technology plays a larger role. The world before technological advances was so different that there is no way to go back to what was then. There will be standards now. No treating mostly at home with hosptials and tests being rare. No return to home remidies and acceptance of untrained or limitedly trained pracnitioners. We are simply too different today to return to where we were, and too different to make healthcare affordable to anywhere near everyone without insurance and aid.

Go to those institutions that you know hire only those doctors that are trained well.

 

[Boo Radley]

Businesses that want to keep a good reputation will only hire good doctors.



Go to those institutions that you know hire only those doctors that are trained well.

Doctors are indenpent contracters for the most part and don't need to be hired. Like a poor plumber who still gets work, it is likley, no certain, that poor doctors, less qualified, even dangerous will get work, will treat people, and largely get away with it. It still happens today, at a much lesser degree, even with high standards. Without those standards, lord look out.

You second sentence doesn't answer the block you quote above it, so I'm not sure how to respond.

 

[phattonez]

Doctors are indenpent contracters for the most part and don't need to be hired. Like a poor plumber who still gets work, it is likley, no certain, that poor doctors, less qualified, even dangerous will get work, will treat people, and largely get away with it. It still happens today, at a much lesser degree, even with high standards. Without those standards, lord look out.

You second sentence doesn't answer the block you quote above it, so I'm not sure how to respond.

You keep arguing that we'll have this hectic world where no one will know what doctor to go to and all hell will break loose (exaggerating a little, but still). I've argued, on the contrary, that if people want a good doctor, then can just go to a hospital that they know only hires good quality doctors. It's a misunderstanding of how business works if you think that people will have no assurances of quality beforehand. Do you expect the same quality products from 99 cents only stores that you would expect from Nordstrom's?

 

[Boo Radley]

You keep arguing that we'll have this hectic world where no one will know what doctor to go to and all hell will break loose (exaggerating a little, but still). I've argued, on the contrary, that if people want a good doctor, then can just go to a hospital that they know only hires good quality doctors. It's a misunderstanding of how business works if you think that people will have no assurances of quality beforehand. Do you expect the same quality products from 99 cents only stores that you would expect from Nordstrom's?

Most people don't go to a hosptial for a doctor. And hosptials don't neccessarily assure quality in a doctor. Nor do many actually know a good from a poor one. A good bedside manner can cover a lot of sins. And if you do away with all the protections and standards you suggest, there will be less measures with which to know.

There is no liklihood that we can get enough doctors to reduce price. And lowering standards and protections will hurt more than help.

 

[phattonez]

Most people don't go to a hosptial for a doctor. And hosptials don't neccessarily assure quality in a doctor. Nor do many actually know a good from a poor one. A good bedside manner can cover a lot of sins. And if you do away with all the protections and standards you suggest, there will be less measures with which to know.

There is no liklihood that we can get enough doctors to reduce price. And lowering standards and protections will hurt more than help.

Please prove the claim in bold, or at least argue why that is the case.