I got bored because everything the Truthers ever claimed has been thoroughly debunked--but the Truthers simply ignore the debunkings and go on trucking. When someone debunks the Truthers, they just say it was a "hit piece" and move on.
I've seen a few of them that were nothing more than a 'hit piece'... especially when you have an architect showing a BASIC example of how strucutres support their weight, gets called fake??
I mean even the links that a person sent was 'debunking' through rhetoric... nothing more.
For the record, I have never seen a debunking of Truther myths that looked or sounded like a "hit piece." The Truthers, by contrast, call anyone who dares to disagree with their brilliant theories an idiot or an agent.
Oh, and how anyone who DARES question the official story is called a 'twoofer', 'tinfoil hat wearer', an 'ally of the terrorists', or worse... often simply for ASKING questions??????
For me, a proper 'debunking' of all questionable aspects of this event and investigations would be able to use their own videos against them, the physics involved, and/or an adequate thorough explanation.
Here are my three favorite 9/11 conspiracy theory debunking sites. They will cure a normal person in a few minutes:
911Myths
Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition Homepage
911 Links - Links for 9/11 Research
Three sites loaded with rhetoric, hit pieces, and well... only addresses maybe HALF of the legitimate issues raised in a half-assed 'debunking' style. Kinda like how it was someone from the Bush administration that 'debunked' the downing street memos by simply claiming that they were fake.
Another oddity of the Truth Movement is that no two Truthers agree on the theory. In fact, virtually no two Truthers in the world agree on any of the details of the story--who did 9/11, how they did it, the evidence for a conspiracy, anything. It's different for each and every Truther. Truthers make lists of 9/11 "smoking guns"--but no two of them are the same.
They all have a common thread : they see the government explanation for what it is; inadequate, unprecedented, and/or a cover-up.
The explanations will vary based off what the person actually believes (Yes, there are 'truthers' out there that have come up with some pretty rediculous theories, 'no planers' especially as in the ones that think that it was some sort of hologram encompasing a missile to be shaped like a plane)... the firefighters on camera on scene were talking about 'secondary devices' in the buildings, heard explosions, injured by explosions in the basement... YET STILL people will deny that there was explosives... to mention 1 example.
Truther like to say they have tons of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job. But if there were really so much evidence, they could agree on the story, or at least on what the evidence is.
The government can't even decide if the hijackers had faked their identity or not follow this logic :
a) Hijackers used false names on their tickets
b) No FILM of the hijackers in the airport???
c) Their car had a flight training manual yet they were all trained (failed) pilots that executed extremely skillful maneouvers but needed a training manual on the way to the hijacking???
d) Terrorists used their credit cards to go to a stripclub for a night of drinking and such the night before they were gonna get their 72 virgins??
Also, their ID's were found at the base of the building (one at least)... So, they faked their names to get on the plane yet still carried around their REAL ID's?? They went out to bars the night before their 'big mission' (so to speak), to spite the religion before making themselves martyrs to be guaranteed a good spot in the afterlife according to their religion???
I could go on, but for brevity...
But they don't. If you look around the web, you'll see that Truthers attack one another and call one another simpletons and CIA agents all the time. It's really very funny.
Again, there is counter-intel and disinfo groups calling themselves truthers to help in trying to put the group as some sort of 'lunatic fringe'...
The government wouldn't really attack it's own people to suit its purpose... NO, the government loves you, they want to protect you untill you're old so they can send you your social security checks untill you die... they love you, they would NEVER think of using you just because they can.
No one that I know believes that however, they do believe (as I do) that the global jihadists whether they be AQ or not all pretty much have the same agenda IE bringing the world into the fold of dar al-Islam under puritanical sharia through offensive jihad.
I hear the kool-aid comes in purple?
Seriously though, YES there are terrorists that hate america, YES there are terrorists that would take away our security because we as a country have destroyed their freedom, or keep them so deep in poverty that they can barely sustain themselves and their families... however, the description of alquaida, with sleeper cells everywhere, etc... well, if that's not a description of the CIA, I don't know what is.
Most people believe in a lot of things that aren't so, however, the administration never once claimed that Iraq was behind 9-11.
No, never claimed, but implied the connection repeatedly... to the point that a portion of the population BELIEVED the connection. Even better since now people will defend the action saying 'they never said there was a connection, so why are you asking what Iraq had to do with 9-11'
:roll: no I don't as the global jihad is currently the largest threat to the free world, but it's o.k. Europe will be a majority Muslim entity by the end of this century so just accept your sharia and third class status like a good little dhimmi.
:roll: NO, the 'free world' is the largest threat to the free world... because of it's smug sense of superiority, it will bomb countries at the cost of the citizens UNTILL the populations of the western world are living in the third class police state that is coming to fruition.
You'll deny that too, but that's ok... when the cops walk around asking 'papers please' you'll gladly present them, cause you're not a terrorist'
Well then blame the global jihadists sport, it's "terrorism terrorism terrorism all the time" because there is not a day which passes in which the global jihadists do not strike between 5-6 times a day in every corner of the globe.
No, this is part of a formula : Presented problem (p) + guided reaction(r) + preplanned solution(s) = public manipulation (m)
In this case p = 'global terrorism', r = people feeling insecure, s = patriot act spying powers... so p+r+s = POLICE STATE / Martial law.
Well because it's not just terrorism it's an ancient threat of global jihad which has destroyed countless civilizations and cultures from north Africa to Indonesia and now this threat has its sites squarely on the west, you may choose to ignore Islamist expanisionism and imperialist endeavors but some of us see the bigger picture.
yet, historically, it's been us white folks going to the middle east for 'crusades'... how many attempts have there been in history?
Because they already have with 3 official investigation IE the 9-11 Commission Report, the FEMA report, and the NIST report, you wish to waste more taxpayer dollars to appease some nutbag conspiracy theorists?
Many of the VICTIMS FAMILIES also feel that the investigations were inadequate... so, you would rob them of the chance to have all their questions answered so that they can properly mourn their loss??
Sorry jack, but we as individual citizens have taken up where the government has left off and today there is not a single twoofer lie that has not been completely debunked
Saying : LIES,LIES, LIES is NOT debunking in my humble opinion.
as every response on this thread by me has clearly demonstrated, the twoofers bring absolutely nothing new to the table just the same old **** and it's getting really old,
It's funny how you can even deny things like PNAC documents, video evidence, witness video taped testimony the day of, etc... that FLIES IN THE FACE of the goverment fabrication, and somehow you'll just deny these things out of existance and call it debunked??? It's gettng really old trying to explain logic and simple physics to people that have fallen so hard for the lie...
"I truly feel sorry for you peoplem" but I sympathize, I would like to deny evil is part of this world too, but in the near future this type of escapism is going to come back and bite us ALL in the a$$, whether or not you're a 'truther'.
and I do include you because your OP clearly shows that you are a twoofer the fact that you're to embarrassed to admit it now now because your bull****s been debunked in this thread changes nothing, you'll be back in another thread in a couple weeks still claiming the same old tired horse ****.
And when it comes back, you'll just link youre rhetoric filled hit pieces passing them off as legitimate sources thinking that you present a valid argument because the guys at NIST, and your other 'investigations' would like you to believe their story.
Ultimately we'll never know what really happened, who is culpable, who helped, and who covered up information... not so much to save 'taxpayer money' since we'd much rather spend the money blowing up some third world village than to spend it on things that might actually prove a benefit to the human species.