What you think about president Bush?

[nes]

If you think that president Bush is a bad president, I would like to see reasons why instead of just rhetoric and nonsense.

 

[Kandahar]

If you think that president Bush is a bad president, I would like to see reasons why instead of just rhetoric and nonsense.

Because your avatar is stupid.

 

[Hatuey]

If you think that president Bush is a bad president, I would like to see reasons why instead of just rhetoric and nonsense.

I don't think he's a bad president. He's just played too much politics, made too many mistakes and now like most baby boomers has been rendered impotent by his own arrogance. His dog Cheney can no longer make speeches where he pretty much implied that anybody who voted democrats was the "Al'Qaeda type" or supporter. The Republicans have turned on him and his administration and are now trying to distance themselves from anything that has to do with Pres. Bush. I don't think he's bad president. He's just managed to reach the top and fall back down. Thats not a good thing in anybody's book. It shows he had the opportunity to make this country right but sadly he let the chance escape through his finger tips.

 

[Pull My Finger]

Bush is a liar, cannot be trusted, ignores the constitution, favors the ultra rich (his base he calls them), is a liar, uses his religious beliefs in policy making, has destroyed the image of Americans abroad, ignores the people, is a liar, has run almost every company he started into the ground (and is doing the same with the country), has run up a massive national debt, has ignored or broken international treaties, is a liar, has stated he would rather be a dictator - twice, found Hussein in a hole but couldn't find a 6'7 Muslim on dialasys, is incompetent at implementing policies to help the middle class, thinks diplomacy and intimidation are the same thing, and is a liar.

Anyone feel free to expand on this as it is by no means exhaustive...

Why would you have an avatar of one of the most offencive symbols known to man? Do you know Hitler would have exterminated or enslaved you in a labor camp whether you were wearing that shirt or not?

Peace

Did I mention he's a liar?

 

[Adrian]

While I think his contempt for all things environmental is certainly very bad, probably the worst thing he ever did was foster an attitude that anybody who disagreed with him was anti-American. This has turned America viciously against itself. He was beyond irresponsible to happily allow the red-state/blue-state mentality. Real leaders try to bridge differences, not do everything to alienate half their country.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Bush is either a complete ****ing retard, incompetent politician or he is paid by someone to be all this someone elses puppet. Then those people are very retarded but very competent at the criminality they are doing. :mrgreen:

If George Bush is trying to sabotage the US, and ruin what the country has built up during centuries, if he is trying to crush all their support across the world and make everyone hate the US, then he is a pure genius, maybe the smartest man in history.

 

[nes]

Because your avatar is stupid.

I don't think he's a bad president. He's just played too much politics, made too many mistakes and now like most baby boomers has been rendered impotent by his own arrogance. His dog Cheney can no longer make speeches where he pretty much implied that anybody who voted democrats was the "Al'Qaeda type" or supporter. The Republicans have turned on him and his administration and are now trying to distance themselves from anything that has to do with Pres. Bush. I don't think he's bad president. He's just managed to reach the top and fall back down. Thats not a good thing in anybody's book. It shows he had the opportunity to make this country right but sadly he let the chance escape through his finger tips.

How did Bush imply that anybody who voted democrats was the "Al'Qaeda" type? Your making all of these assumptions without a shred of evidence. Nearly your entire post is your personal opinion based on nonsense.

Bush is a liar, cannot be trusted, ignores the constitution, favors the ultra rich (his base he calls them), is a liar,

How did Bush lie, give me statements. And did Clinton lie while in office and do you think he was a bad president?

uses his religious beliefs in policy making,

What evidence do you have of that and what wrongdoing is there.

has destroyed the image of Americans abroad,

America's image abroad was already "destroyed", the word gringo didn't come up after Bush got elected.

ignores the people,

How does he ignore people? Do you think politicians ignore people since they are always being bombarded with work?

is a liar,

Making statements with no evidence...

has run almost every company he started into the ground (and is doing the same with the country),

How has he ran almost every company he started into the ground? Was he the CEO of the company while it went to the ground? What does this have to do with his presidency?

has run up a massive national debt,

Your wrong, congress "ran up" massive national debt, congress approves the budget.

has ignored or broken international treaties, is a liar,

What international treaties did he break? And why would congress approve of funding for the Iraq war?

has stated he would rather be a dictator - twice, found Hussein in a hole but couldn't find a 6'7 Muslim on dialasys, is incompetent at implementing policies to help the middle class, thinks diplomacy and intimidation are the same thing, and is a liar.

nonsense, check how much large corporations pay on tax, far more than the average person.

Anyone feel free to expand on this as it is by no means exhaustive...

Why would you have an avatar of one of the most offencive symbols known to man? Do you know Hitler would have exterminated or enslaved you in a labor camp whether you were wearing that shirt or not?

Peace

Did I mention he's a liar?

Whats wrong with the Nazi symbol? Your assuming Hitler would have extermination or enslaved me in a labor camp. Besides, I think that Hitler was a genius in economics, he helped get Germany together and strong after ww1.

While I think his contempt for all things environmental is certainly very bad, probably the worst thing he ever did was foster an attitude that anybody who disagreed with him was anti-American. This has turned America viciously against itself. He was beyond irresponsible to happily allow the red-state/blue-state mentality. Real leaders try to bridge differences, not do everything to alienate half their country.

How is it his fault if he did, foster an attitude that anybody who disagreed with him was anti-American.

Bush is either a complete ****ing retard, incompetent politician or he is paid by someone to be all this someone elses puppet. Then those people are very retarded but very competent at the criminality they are doing. :mrgreen:

If George Bush is trying to sabotage the US, and ruin what the country has built up during centuries, if he is trying to crush all their support across the world and make everyone hate the US, then he is a pure genius, maybe the smartest man in history.

You are clueless and should listen to Rush Limbaugh.

 

[Hatuey]

How did Bush imply that anybody who voted democrats was the "Al'Qaeda" type? Your making all of these assumptions without a shred of evidence. Nearly your entire post is your personal opinion based on nonsense.

Bush Says 'America Loses' Under Democrats - washingtonpost.com

SUGAR LAND, Tex., Oct. 30 -- President Bush said terrorists will win if Democrats win and impose their policies on Iraq, as he and Vice President Cheney escalated their rhetoric Monday in an effort to turn out Republican voters in next week's midterm elections.

Nes. Dont ever question me. Specially when your avatar is stupid. Thank You.

 

[Pull My Finger]

How did Bush lie, give me statements.

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." —George W. Bush, State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003

Lie.

And did Clinton lie while in office and do you think he was a bad president?

Obviously & Yes & irrelevant

What evidence do you have of that and what wrongdoing is there.

Bush is an admitted 'born again christian'. Remember the whole 'faith based initiatives'?
Some quotes for fun...

"I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."
--George W. Bush commenting to Texas evangelist James Robinson in the run-up to his presidential campaign

"What we are going to do in the second term is to make sure that the grant money is available for faith communities to bid on, to make sure these faith-based offices are staffed and open. But the key thing is, is that we do have the capacity to allow faith programs to access enormous sums of social service money, which I think is important."
--George W. Bush, January 11, 2005

I personally don't think religion belongs in politics. JMO

America's image abroad was already "destroyed", the word gringo didn't come up after Bush got elected.

Astute.

How does he ignore people? Do you think politicians ignore people since they are always being bombarded with work?

Astuter...

How has he ran almost every company he started into the ground? Was he the CEO of the company while it went to the ground? What does this have to do with his presidency?

Look into his oil ventures back in the late 70's through 80's. You'll love the one about Arbusto being funded by Osama's half brother...

Your wrong, congress "ran up" massive national debt, congress approves the budget.

You say tomato I say tomah toh

What international treaties did he break?

Geneva Convention.

And why would congress approve of funding for the Iraq war?

Because they believed his lies. (probably a little more complicated but I have the feeling I should keep it simple)

nonsense, check how much large corporations pay on tax, far more than the average person.

Check out the tax breaks for the rich CEO's who own those corporations...

Whats wrong with the Nazi symbol?

Are you serious?

Your assuming Hitler would have extermination or enslaved me in a labor camp.

Uhm, no. Hitler considered black people inferior, unclean, and unpure. They were indeed exterminated or used as slaves in labor camps.

Besides, I think that Hitler was a genius in economics, he helped get Germany together and strong after ww1.

Hitler was definitely brilliant, but that is far outweighed by the fact that he was psychopathic.

I'm not sure how old you are, but you need to do a little (lot) more research before calling ANYONE else here clueless. IMO, Hatuey was easy on you, and so was I.

Peace

 

[Adrian]

How is it his fault if he did, foster an attitude that anybody who disagreed with him was anti-American.

Find for me just one quote by Bush that questioning his decisions is not unpatriotic, or one quote that we need to cut out this red state/blue state crap.

 

[RightOfCenter]

I voted average, but I would rather have put below average. I don't think he's the worst president we've ever had, but aside from the fiasco that is Iraq, he really hasn't done anything else.

 

[Devils.High]

They migh have actually found out that he was doing things with uranium but not in Iraq or Iran.

 

[nes]

How did Bush imply that anybody who voted democrats was the "Al'Qaeda" type? Your making all of these assumptions without a shred of evidence. Nearly your entire post is your personal opinion based on nonsense.

Bush Says 'America Loses' Under Democrats - washingtonpost.com

President Bush said terrorists will win if Democrats win and impose their policies on Iraq

I don't see how such a statement implies that a voter that votes democrat is an "Al'Qaeda" type. Do you think if we just pulled out that there isn't a risk of civil war?

Nes. Dont ever question me. Specially when your avatar is stupid. Thank You.

 

[1069]

What you think about president Bush?

Not much, I'm afraid.

 

[Hatuey]

I don't see how such a statement implies that a voter that votes democrat is an "Al'Qaeda" type.

Dan Froomkin - Did Cheney Go Too Far? - washingtonpost.com

Do you think if we just pulled out that there isn't a risk of civil war?

LOL. Do you even live on this earth? It's a civil war in Iraq already you fool. Sugar coat it all you want with sectarian violence. It's a ****ing civil war. Iraqi vs. Iraqi.

 

[nes]

Lie.

Obviously & Yes & irrelevant

Bush is an admitted 'born again christian'. Remember the whole 'faith based initiatives'?

What faith based initiatives?

Look into his oil ventures back in the late 70's through 80's. You'll love the one about Arbusto being funded by Osama's half brother...

Osama inherited money from his family, his half brother wasn't a terrorist. Its just as if your brother goes out and commits crime, does that make you bad since you would be related?

Geneva Convention.

How was the Geneva Convention violated?

Guantanamo Bay? Surveillance shows that no such torture took place and people have beds and toilets and is even better than our overcrowded jail system. Imagine having to sleep with 2-3 other people in a cell.

And for trials for unlawful enemy combatants...

On 29 September 2006, the U.S. House and Senate approved the Military Commissions Act of 2006, a bill which would suspend habeas corpus for any alien determined to be an "unlawful enemy combatant engaged in hostilities or having supported hostilities against the United States"[1][2] by a vote of 65-34. (This was the result on the bill to approve the military trials for detainees; an amendment to remove the suspension of habeas corpus failed 48-51.[3]) President Bush signed the Military Commissons Act of 2006 into law on October 17, 2006.

With the MCA's passage, the law altered the language from "alien detained ... at Guantanamo Bay":

"Except as provided in section 1005 of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider an application for a writ of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of an alien detained by the United States who has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant or is awaiting such determination." §1005(e)(1), 119 Stat. 2742.

Under the MCA, the law restricts habeas appeals for only those aliens detained as enemy combatants, or awaiting such determination. Left unchanged is the provision that, after such determination is made, it is subject to appeal in U.S. Court, including a review of whether the evidence warrants the determination. If the status is upheld, then their imprisonment is deemed lawful; if not, then the government can change the prisoner's status to something else, at which point the habeas restrictions no longer apply.

The people stuck in Guantanamo are the ones who refuse to cooperate. Military courts are at Guantanamo and people do have a trial.

Libs just want America to have a bunch of liberal ******s in power and give these terrorist regular trials :rofl. Appeasement doesn't work lib.

Because they believed his lies. (probably a little more complicated but I have the feeling I should keep it simple)

What lie, tell me one lie.

Check out the tax breaks for the rich CEO's who own those corporations...

Check out the tax bracket corporations are taxed on, CEO's would still be rich without Bush, you make no sense. Imagine owning a company worth billions and not being rich? The tax breaks for rich CEO's are barely anything compared to the tax they have to pay.

 

[FallingPianos]

bad for:

approximately 140 signing statements challenging approximately 1,140 bill provisions.

signing the patriot act

for calling himself a uniter, while calling everyone who disagrees with him unpatriotic

homophobia

to name a few reasons.

 

[Pull My Finger]

What faith based initiatives?

Faith-Based and Community Initiatives

Osama inherited money from his family, his half brother wasn't a terrorist. Its just as if your brother goes out and commits crime, does that make you bad since you would be related?

Bin Laden & the Afghan Rebels were funded through the ISI by the CIA to fight the Soviets. UBL was a CIA asset. The Saudi BinLaden Group were large investors in the Carlyle Group right up to the war in Iraq. They may not be any longer since it came to light, and doesn't look good.

"President Bush does not have a relationship with the bin Laden family. He's met them twice." (Jean Becker in the 'WSJ,' 27 September 2001)

The Saudi BinLaden Group also have ties to American Banks.

How was the Geneva Convention violated?

Torture. Interview of the Vice President by Scott Hennen, WDAY at Radio Day at the White House

Libs just want America to have a bunch of liberal ******s in power and give these terrorist regular trials :rofl. Appeasement doesn't work lib.

Your propensity for ignorance is only surpassed by your propensity for remaining so.

What lie, tell me one lie.

Seriously? Read a newspaper or at least climb out of your FOX hole. There have been so many lies from the current admin about the Iraq war alone.

"We know where they (WMD) are, they are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north of that." - Donald Rumsfeld, March 2003

"No one ever said that we knew precisely where all of these agents were, where they were stored," - Condi Rice, June 2003

CEO's would still be rich without Bush,

No fu.ck.ing guff.

you make no sense. Imagine owning a company worth billions and not being rich?

Please, give daddy back his keyboard so the grown ups can talk...

The tax breaks for rich CEO's are barely anything compared to the tax they have to pay.

:roll:

CNN.com - Bush tax cut won't be big deal for some - May 27, 2001
Bush Tax Cuts and New York (Gotham Gazette. January, 2004)
Dissecting Bush's Tax-Cut Plan | TIME
BW Online | February 24, 2003 | Bush's Tax Cut: Attacked from All Sides
BBC News | AMERICAS | Bush tax cuts become law

At first sight, I wondered how anyone could take you seriously with that avatar. Now I know you're avatar is the least of your worries...

Peace

 

[Gardener]

"you're either with us or against us".

The "us" in question is the Bush administration, of course.


I think one of the real tragedies of this polarizing language isn't just that it encourages a mindlessly partisan right, but has contributed to a mindlessly reactionary left -- and this effect is fet throughout the world and not just the U.S. In reacting against Bush, all too many people end up as apologists for anything else that is against Bush and thus play a role in validating that very frame of mind. Digging in one's heels and saying "o.k., I'm against you, then" is just as simple-minded as all the people who can't seem to avoid the term "you liberals"

Between all those for whom any mention of Islamism elicits automatic knee-jerk defense and all those for whom GWB might as well be a deity, there seem too few capable of treating politics on a level beyond "my team, your team".

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Libs just want America to have a bunch of liberal ******s in power and give these terrorist regular trials :rofl. Appeasement doesn't work lib.

If you wish for participants to avoid "just rhetoric and nonsense" you prob'ly should set the example.
When you add "just rhetoric and nonsense" yourself it encourages more "just rhetoric and nonsense"

Just a thought.

 

[DeeJayH]

"you're either with us or against us".

The "us" in question is the Bush administration, of course.

got a source for that
because everytime I heard him use it, it was in regards to the WAR ON TERROR
you either oppose terrorism, or you are enabling it, thus an enemy

 

[Gardener]

got a source for that
because everytime I heard him use it, it was in regards to the WAR ON TERROR
you either oppose terrorism, or you are enabling it, thus an enemy

It is through the implication that anybody who differs in terms of METHODS is Unamerican. One is either with them -- i/e/their entire package of policies, actions, methods and agenda -- or against them.

 

[DeeJayH]

It is through the implication that anybody who differs in terms of METHODS is Unamerican. One is either with them -- i/e/their entire package of policies, actions, methods and agenda -- or against them.

so thats a no, thought as much

 

[EAGLE1]

George W Bush.

Son of the privileged.

Scourge of the competent.

Nemesis of the English language.

Friend of the have's.

All Hat no cattle.

Ok Im British so its different for me. I dont need to be embarrassed, for example. But how can the world judge this politician except in his own words;

"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease." —Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001"

"Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a — you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004

"I'm the commander — see, I don't need to explain — I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president." —as quoted in Bob Woodward's Bush at War. Love that one.:lol:

And lastly, the most sickening one really; 'My answer is bring them on.' —on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces

Jesus I could go on and on. But thats all the world needs really to know that half of America voted in one of the most stupid, priviledged and intellectually lazy men in history. Even Reagan, a real conniving dumbass, hated across the world, could give a decent speech or two.

 

[Navy Pride]

God knows I have had my differences with President Bush on some of his policies but I have to give him and his administration credit for keeping us safe sine 9/11/01.......On 9/12/01 I would have thought we would have had and attack on this country every month but that has not happened in spite of the obstruction by the left and the democrats....

Thank you President Bush....