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What would you do?

What would you do? Comments please

  • Option A

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • Option B

    Votes: 10 90.9%
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Narph

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Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Option A

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.

Option B

BANG!

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Pull My Finger said:
I wouldn't kill him, just shoot him in the knee.

Peace
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I'd shoot myself.
Haha, just kidding.
Actually, I wouldn't have a gun in the first place. Or a wife.
 
Option B BANG!
I would shoot the attacker in the head.
 
Narph said:
Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Option A

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.

Option B

BANG!

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Yeah, he'd be dead. If he wasn't after the first shot, I'd make sure.
 
Shoot him in the knee. As long as I was that good and I could back my family away, I would not kill him unless no other option was there...
 
If it was obvious that my family was in imminent danger, I'd shoot him in the knee, I'd only kill him if there was absolutely no other way. However, your scenario leaves a lot to be desired and your options are leading, to say the least.
 
Since I'm supposedly an expert short I'd shoot him in the legs.
 
The diference is this guy might be high on drugs and the shots in the knees might not even slow him down and then its to late to save you family...

Don't take chances with your familys lives.....shot him in the head...........
 
Navy Pride said:
The diference is this guy might be high on drugs and the shots in the knees might not even slow him down and then its to late to save you family...

Don't take chances with your familys lives.....shot him in the head...........
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Knee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

n human anatomy, the knee is the lower extremity joint connecting the femur and the tibia. Since in humans the knee supports nearly the entire weight of the body, it is vulnerable both to acute injury and to the development of osteoarthritis.
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Yeah...
 
Cephus said:
If it was obvious that my family was in imminent danger, I'd shoot him in the knee, I'd only kill him if there was absolutely no other way. However, your scenario leaves a lot to be desired and your options are leading, to say the least.
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Police are trained to shoot the chest for many reason. The best being that is the largest mass. If there was a man charging you with a knife you have very few seconds to respond to defend you and your family. If you are willing to waist them trying to save the life of someone who is trying to do harm to you and your family by trying to take a very hard shot plus a higher chance of missing then i guess that guys life is very important to you. Also even if you hit him in the leg does not mean he will stop coming at you. It doesn't work like the movies.

Have you ever heard of the 21 foot rule?

http://www.policeone.com/writers/columnists/ForceScience/articles/102828

If you where charged buy I person at a distance of 21 feet with a knife and your gun is holstered you have good chance of getting seriously getting hurt or killed. That is also with the guy with the knife starting off standing still, level ground with good traction.
 
Narph said:
Police are trained to shoot the chest for many reason. The best being that is the largest mass. If there was a man charging you with a knife you have very few seconds to respond to defend you and your family. If you are willing to waist them trying to save the life of someone who is trying to do harm to you and your family by trying to take a very hard shot plus a higher chance of missing then i guess that guys life is very important to you. Also even if you hit him in the leg does not mean he will stop coming at you. It doesn't work like the movies.

Have you ever heard of the 21 foot rule?

Edged Weapon Defense: Is or was the 21-foot rule valid? (Part 1)

If you where charged buy I person at a distance of 21 feet with a knife and your gun is holstered you have good chance of getting seriously getting hurt or killed. That is also with the guy with the knife starting off standing still, level ground with good traction.
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If I'm an expert shot, I should have no problem stopping him without actually killing him. Right?
 
Hatuey said:
If I'm an expert shot, I should have no problem stopping him without actually killing him. Right?
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Even an expert shooter can miss a difficult shot when the pressure is on, especially a very small body mass such as the knee while it's moving. You saw the 21 foot rule. You will probably only get one shot. Are you going to go for the high percentage shot and take the chance of killing the man or the low percentage shot and take the chance of your family and yourself dying?
 
RightOfCenter said:
Even an expert shooter can miss a difficult shot when the pressure is on, especially a very small body mass such as the knee while it's moving. You saw the 21 foot rule. You will probably only get one shot. Are you going to go for the high percentage shot and take the chance of killing the man or the low percentage shot and take the chance of your family and yourself dying?
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"never bring a knife to a gunfight"...

Just messin' witcha...

Peace
 
Narph said:
Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Option A

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.

Option B

BANG!

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it depends on how many bullets you have in your clip.
If you have 6 shots:
5xBANG
the 6th one is the controlling shoot into his head.
Please answer the questions:
How else would you have the control of the situation?
How else would you know that 5xBANG have unarmed the man?
In order to control the outcome of the situation you have to place a bullet directly and for sure into his brain. Frankly I don't know how else you can stop him for sure.

As the result of your action you may be judged and sentenced .. and you may be judged and not sentenced.. but the result is not in the scope of the question – isn’t it?
 
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Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.
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So what's the point of your whole hypothetical scenario including your "A" answer? Are you somehow trying to imply that people who are concerned for the welfare of their fellow human beings wouldn't protect their family in an extreme situation? Or are you merely and somewhat snidely pointing out that is sometimes in an emergency situation you have to react very very quickly.(And did anyone here not know that you may have to react quickly in an emergency?)
Anyway the whole question is moot as no one knows what they would do in any emergency situation. I was a lifeguard when I was younger and it always amazed me when some cocky kid who sailed through training would crack when a really emergency was at hand. People never react how they think they are going to.
 
BodiSatva said:
Shoot him in the knee. As long as I was that good and I could back my family away, I would not kill him unless no other option was there...
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With the rat lawyers that are out there,wouldn't you be worried that the scumbag would try to sue you?
 
Narph said:
Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Option A

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.

Option B

BANG!

Comments Welcome.
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As any self respecting prepared life long NRA member. If my family was walking down a deserted street, my wife Jenny would be holding her 38 snub nose with hallow points, Josh would be holding his 22 rifle, and Kelly would have her pellet gun, and me Daddy would be holding his 12 guage sawed off, with his glock .40 as a backup. The first thing that I would do if this guy was coming towards my family is smile and be proud that us red-blooded Americans have this great opportunity to show the need to be walking around with our firearms in hand prepared for our deserted street weekend walks, and then we would all proceed to make swiss cheese out of this dirt bag. I would then gut him and mount him on my wall.
 
If the guy was running towards you, a knee is a pretty small target, moving irregularly. Not to easy to hit, and per your senario, you don't have much time.

In cases of self defense, with an armed perp running AT you, I advise you to shoot center mass, two shots at a time
 
Narph said:
Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Option A

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.

Option B

BANG!

Comments Welcome.
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I chose Option A in accordance with one of my central guiding philosophies "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer."


Duke
 
Narph said:
Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

Option A

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.

Option B

BANG!

Comments Welcome.
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Funny but what I answer to my students in Karate classes is this:
You need to learn the laws in your state AND any other state that you may have to use your body or something else as a lethal weapon. Many if not all states state that in order for you to use any kind of lethal weapon the attacker has to be carrying a lethal weapon and the attacker has to say that he-she is going to kill you or someone with you.
I also tell them that much they learned in their Karate classes will not do much good when in a street fight anyway. Such as the weapons they have trained with, they will not have those weapons with them on the street.
The attacker will also have that great advantage of having that element of surprise going for them by attacking you first. And most kicks and punches cannot be made in close quarters street fighting anyway.
OFF the record I state that its better if the attacker was injured or dead and you going to court than YOU or someone with you injured or dead and the attacker going to court.
The laws vary state to state and they seem to lean towards protecting the attacker.
 
Awesome! said:
As any self respecting prepared life long NRA member. If my family was walking down a deserted street, my wife Jenny would be holding her 38 snub nose with hallow points, Josh would be holding his 22 rifle, and Kelly would have her pellet gun, and me Daddy would be holding his 12 guage sawed off, with his glock .40 as a backup. The first thing that I would do if this guy was coming towards my family is smile and be proud that us red-blooded Americans have this great opportunity to show the need to be walking around with our firearms in hand prepared for our deserted street weekend walks, and then we would all proceed to make swiss cheese out of this dirt bag. I would then gut him and mount him on my wall.
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I understand where you are comming from BUT sadly, if you or your family had those weapons in hand walking down a street you would probably be arrested before you had a chance to get involved with an attacker.
 
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