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What would have happened to this country?

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We now know that Pence was trying to find a way to obey Trump and hold up the election and throw it into the House of Representatives. If the House had voted to make Trump the president as Trump hopped, what would have happened to our country? It seems that we came close to that happening and still the GOP in states they control are trying to find or invent fraud so they can now give the election win to Trump. If this had happened, what would have the majority of mericans do and if they rose up, would the GOP have used the military to put down any insurrection?
 
People would be pissed, act tough on the internet then cower in fear once shit for real and return to being a cyber special forces operative
 
We now know that Pence was trying to find a way to obey Trump and hold up the election and throw it into the House of Representatives. If the House had voted to make Trump the president as Trump hopped, what would have happened to our country? It seems that we came close to that happening and still the GOP in states they control are trying to find or invent fraud so they can now give the election win to Trump. If this had happened, what would have the majority of mericans do and if they rose up, would the GOP have used the military to put down any insurrection?
Our Republic would be MUCH weaker to the point of changing to another form of government. Keep in mind that MANY dictators of the past were elected in a republican form of government, like ours, before the dictator changed things. This nation will not fall from an outside enemy. It will fall from within. And Jan. 6th was the closest we came since the Civil war, or maybe the war of 1812.
 
We now know that Pence was trying to find a way to obey Trump and hold up the election and throw it into the House of Representatives. If the House had voted to make Trump the president as Trump hopped, what would have happened to our country?
We would be in much better shape domestically and around the world than we are now with a puppet in the Oval Office.

At least...as long as Trump would have been allowed to live.

(Let's face it, the Trump haters tried for years to get rid of Trump...even to the point of committing crimes. It's not inconceivable that they would resort to the ultimate solution.)
 
We would be in much better shape domestically and around the world than we are now with a puppet in the Oval Office.

At least...as long as Trump would have been allowed to live.

(Let's face it, the Trump haters tried for years to get rid of Trump...even to the point of committing crimes. It's not inconceivable that they would resort to the ultimate solution.)
We would have been in much worse shape if @Mycroft and his ilk were allowed to execute their ultimate solution. It's not inconceivable that they would have tried to line up opposing politicians against the wall. Fortunately most of America is against him and his seditionist friends and--let's face it--these people couldn't organize a bake sale without screwing it up, so it never really would have gone anywhere.

Fortunately, since January 6 a great many of us who previously didn't believe there was much of a threat have grown wiser and begun taking actions to make sure we can defend democracy from these fascists. The odds of something worse happening are pretty low--and if it does, in the aftermath @Mycroft will have little more to show for his uninspired polemics than the names or more Ashli Babbitts to whine about online. These armchair seditionists are, at the end of the day, a lot of talk but not much walk.

Oh, by the way, he is dismissed but we all knew that.
 
We would have been in much worse shape if @Mycroft and his ilk were allowed to execute their ultimate solution. It's not inconceivable that they would have tried to line up opposing politicians against the wall. Fortunately most of America is against him and his seditionist friends and--let's face it--these people couldn't organize a bake sale without screwing it up, so it never really would have gone anywhere.

Fortunately, since January 6 a great many of us who previously didn't believe there was much of a threat have grown wiser and begun taking actions to make sure we can defend democracy from these fascists. The odds of something worse happening are pretty low--and if it does, in the aftermath @Mycroft will have little more to show for his uninspired polemics than the names or more Ashli Babbitts to whine about online. These armchair seditionists are, at the end of the day, a lot of talk but not much walk.

Oh, by the way, he is dismissed but we all knew that.
"@Mycroft and his ilk"? Dude...I HAVE no ilk.

Take your hyperbole and insulting nonsense and shove it where the sun don't shine.

You are dismissed.
 
We now know that Pence was trying to find a way to obey Trump and hold up the election and throw it into the House of Representatives. If the House had voted to make Trump the president as Trump hopped, what would have happened to our country? It seems that we came close to that happening and still the GOP in states they control are trying to find or invent fraud so they can now give the election win to Trump. If this had happened, what would have the majority of mericans do and if they rose up, would the GOP have used the military to put down any insurrection?
At least land prices would come down again.
 
We now know that Pence was trying to find a way to obey Trump and hold up the election and throw it into the House of Representatives. If the House had voted to make Trump the president as Trump hopped, what would have happened to our country? It seems that we came close to that happening and still the GOP in states they control are trying to find or invent fraud so they can now give the election win to Trump. If this had happened, what would have the majority of mericans do and if they rose up, would the GOP have used the military to put down any insurrection?

We would be living Under His Eye.

That's why we will never forget 1/06.
 
We now know that Pence was trying to find a way to obey Trump and hold up the election and throw it into the House of Representatives. If the House had voted to make Trump the president as Trump hopped, what would have happened to our country? It seems that we came close to that happening and still the GOP in states they control are trying to find or invent fraud so they can now give the election win to Trump. If this had happened, what would have the majority of mericans do and if they rose up, would the GOP have used the military to put down any insurrection?
Where did you learn the bold? Is it from the new Woodward/Costa book, Peril?

Otherwise, source?
 
We now know that Pence was trying to find a way to obey Trump and hold up the election and throw it into the House of Representatives. If the House had voted to make Trump the president as Trump hopped, what would have happened to our country? It seems that we came close to that happening and still the GOP in states they control are trying to find or invent fraud so they can now give the election win to Trump. If this had happened, what would have the majority of mericans do and if they rose up, would the GOP have used the military to put down any insurrection?
Trump would've disbanded Congress and the deep state, been crowned Emperor and ruled for life. The institutions would've been purged of all liberals and other America-haters, and a new golden age would begin.
 
We now know that Pence was trying to find a way to obey Trump and hold up the election and throw it into the House of Representatives. If the House had voted to make Trump the president as Trump hopped, what would have happened to our country? It seems that we came close to that happening and still the GOP in states they control are trying to find or invent fraud so they can now give the election win to Trump. If this had happened, what would have the majority of mericans do and if they rose up, would the GOP have used the military to put down any insurrection?

I've posted about this before, how Democrats have no good answer to that question. There are scenarios we came close to where the election would have been 'stolen'. One involved a simple result which would move the election into the House where each state gets a vote, and trump would have won; another where a few state legislatures exercised their constitutional power to choose electors, and trump would have won.

Democrats don't really have (nor anyone) an answer to that 'what if'. We see the Republicans' answer now to the lie of it happening, which presumably is close to if it did happen.

At that point it really does enter a phase of:

- courts, who are loathe to get into the political issue, and partisan often when they do, see the terribly corrupt 2000 ruling
- A few officials like the Joint Chiefs of Staff deciding whether the military will settle the issue
- A big division in the country taking sides whether to support the coup or to criticize it as one, with a lot of 'talking heads' and media involvement
- Approaching the steps of violence - citizen attacks, martial law, and so on.

We are close to two threats: when public officials are willing to act in bad faith and betray the law to seize power, which the Republicans have shown clearly most elected leader are willing to do; and legal weaknesses, such as states very much having that power from the constitution to just end elections for president which they are now threatening to start using.

So what would have happened, is a loud public debate about the coup, lots of headlines about 'unprecedented' and 'America in crisis' and identifying leaders of each 'side', and the coup's side trying to solidify power and discourage any resistance, with growing voices of 'for the sake of the country, accept it' just as happened in 2000. Some calls for reforms that likely go nowhere.

And Republicans would have used the seized power to pass measure after measure to cement their power and prevent voters from voting them out.

There would be a widespread view that 'democracy ended', but people would 'get used to it', and recognize 'no democracy is perfect' and 'other countries are worse'. There would be ongoing opposition, but what could they do.
 
We would be in much better shape domestically and around the world than we are now with a puppet in the Oval Office.

At least...as long as Trump would have been allowed to live.

(Let's face it, the Trump haters tried for years to get rid of Trump...even to the point of committing crimes. It's not inconceivable that they would resort to the ultimate solution.)
A President that overturns s fair election and places him or herself in power deserves that.
 
Just think of how many lives would've been saved if Trump and his supporters were actually Americans who cared for other Americans instead of Covid terrorist Karens.
 
People would have knuckled under.
 
Just think of how many lives would've been saved if Trump and his supporters were actually Americans who cared for other Americans instead of Covid terrorist Karens.
Well that would have required him to give a shit about someone other than himself, and we know that could never happen.
 
We would be in much better shape domestically and around the world than we are now with a puppet in the Oval Office.

At least...as long as Trump would have been allowed to live.

(Let's face it, the Trump haters tried for years to get rid of Trump...even to the point of committing crimes. It's not inconceivable that they would resort to the ultimate solution.)

Your lack of loyalty to the republic has been adequately expressed.
 
We now know that Pence was trying to find a way to obey Trump and hold up the election and throw it into the House of Representatives. If the House had voted to make Trump the president as Trump hopped, what would have happened to our country? It seems that we came close to that happening and still the GOP in states they control are trying to find or invent fraud so they can now give the election win to Trump. If this had happened, what would have the majority of mericans do and if they rose up, would the GOP have used the military to put down any insurrection?


What would have happened to this country?​


The same thing that is still going to happen.
Second Civil War.
 
Our Republic would be MUCH weaker to the point of changing to another form of government. Keep in mind that MANY dictators of the past were elected in a republican form of government, like ours, before the dictator changed things. This nation will not fall from an outside enemy. It will fall from within. And Jan. 6th was the closest we came since the Civil war, or maybe the war of 1812.

I wish people would wake up to the fact that Trumpism will STOP AT NOTHING.
They're still on track to promulgate and trigger a Second Civil War and if anything, the radicalization and war prep is doubling by the week.
Stop pretending this is over, because it isn't.

They're actively planning to do the same rout they tried in California in several other states right now as you read this.
 
Second Civil War.

Not going to happen. Lone wolfs, militias, incidents are likely that you would have to really stretch to try to claim 'second civil war'. These are not the days of a rural country with muskets or the clear geographical sides that helped lead to war.
 
We would be living Under His Eye.

That's why we will never forget 1/06.

At least twelve million ARE living "Under His Eye" right NOW, the women of Texas, and about a third to half of them love it.
 
I've posted about this before, how Democrats have no good answer to that question. There are scenarios we came close to where the election would have been 'stolen'. One involved a simple result which would move the election into the House where each state gets a vote, and trump would have won; another where a few state legislatures exercised their constitutional power to choose electors, and trump would have won.

Democrats don't really have (nor anyone) an answer to that 'what if'. We see the Republicans' answer now to the lie of it happening, which presumably is close to if it did happen.

At that point it really does enter a phase of:

- courts, who are loathe to get into the political issue, and partisan often when they do, see the terribly corrupt 2000 ruling
- A few officials like the Joint Chiefs of Staff deciding whether the military will settle the issue
- A big division in the country taking sides whether to support the coup or to criticize it as one, with a lot of 'talking heads' and media involvement
- Approaching the steps of violence - citizen attacks, martial law, and so on.

We are close to two threats: when public officials are willing to act in bad faith and betray the law to seize power, which the Republicans have shown clearly most elected leader are willing to do; and legal weaknesses, such as states very much having that power from the constitution to just end elections for president which they are now threatening to start using.

So what would have happened, is a loud public debate about the coup, lots of headlines about 'unprecedented' and 'America in crisis' and identifying leaders of each 'side', and the coup's side trying to solidify power and discourage any resistance, with growing voices of 'for the sake of the country, accept it' just as happened in 2000. Some calls for reforms that likely go nowhere.

And Republicans would have used the seized power to pass measure after measure to cement their power and prevent voters from voting them out.

There would be a widespread view that 'democracy ended', but people would 'get used to it', and recognize 'no democracy is perfect' and 'other countries are worse'. There would be ongoing opposition, but what could they do.

And that is precisely why we MUST go ahead and have the Civil War.
Sorry, pull the Band-Aid off quickly, no matter how much the scab hurts and bleeds, get it overwith.

Start with humanitarian extraction of all friends of democracy.
 
Not going to happen. Lone wolfs, militias, incidents are likely that you would have to really stretch to try to claim 'second civil war'. These are not the days of a rural country with muskets or the clear geographical sides that helped lead to war.

I don't know why you still subscribe to antiquated notions of wars fought by armies on battlefields.
We don't do fife and drums either.
 
We don't do fife and drums either.

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