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What will Trump do in 2025

Hopefully he'll contract shingles about the crotch, which might take his mind off ever having entered into politics.
 
tacomancer said:
If he has control of government in 2025, I expect liberals to start being killed for “legal” reasons like we saw in places like Myanmar
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Oh no, not at all, killing people in that manner is immoral, and anyway we are going to need labor for the “Putin-Trump Friendship Bridge” across the Bering sea. Which will of course be constructed in ecologically sustainable manner with as much manual labor and as little fossil fuel machinery as possible, for the earth, by poster happy workers living in simple communal camps
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Oh no, not at all, killing people in that manner is immoral, and anyway we are going to need labor for the “Putin-Trump Friendship Bridge” across the Bering sea.
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While the second point is obviously sarcastic, the first point is incorrect because that whole Trumpy ideology is based on immorality.
 
Ishm said:
I posted this in another thread, but got no response. I assume because it was a little off topic. So lets start a dedicated thread to what is possibly an important question.

For those who hope/believe Trump will be reelected in 2024, let's say with a GOP controlled congress, what are you expecting Trump to do to fix the economy? What is it you are so excited to see him do?

Secondary question. What other major policy/legislative shifts are you expecting him to make

Whilst I was about 50/50 on Trumps 2016 - 2019 actions (liked his agenda more but he failed to deliver key parts), I have little idea what to expect if he returns post 2024. Today I am probably 50/50 on Bidens agenda as well, but sort of know what to expect if a Democrat gets elected in 2024. So what exactly is it that Trump supporters expect him to achieve if elected back to office. Please give a liitle detail rather than broad sweeping statements that mean nothing. If you have already committed your support, you must surely have some tangible expectations?
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He will do what he is an expert in doing because he did it 4 times and that is declare bankruptcy.
 
Ishm said:
While it is looking ever more likely that he deserves it, it won't happen imo.
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tRump jumped the shark. I don't see a way out that doesn't embolden the MAGA/Rabid Right to throw rule of law out and do extreme harm to the Republic. Reading about the fall of Rome doesn't reassure me. I hope history won't repeat itself... ✌️
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Only one thing at first, ELIMINATE democracy, all of it.
Then he will secure a permanent lock on power to assist his desire for global fascism.
Then come the mass arrests and show trials.
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...and the confiscation of personal firearms... Shhhh !

Link to archived image of this article, https://archive.ph/xeTDF
www.nytimes.com

How Journalists Wrestle With Covering Threats to Democracy (Published 2022)

A new report challenges news outlets to provide richer, more urgent coverage of the rise of authoritarian movements in the United States and abroad.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
June 10, 2022

"...In an interview, Dresden said she was driven by the conviction, backed by decades of research, that “authoritarianism doesn’t happen overnight.” Like a stalagmite, it develops from the slow drip of infringements on freedoms and breaches of longstanding democratic rules and traditions. That process is now well underway in the United States, she worries....Protect Democracy assembled a panel of academic luminaries for the project, including Sheri Berman, Larry Diamond, Timothy Snyder, Kim Lane Scheppele, Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt. The group also consulted editors at various news outlets, including The New York Times, to help gain insights into how newsrooms are approaching this task.

The panel reached a consensus on “seven basic tactics” authoritarian leaders and movements use to pursue and maintain power, which are listed verbatim below:

  • They attempt to politicize independent institutions.
  • They spread disinformation.
  • They aggrandize executive power at the expense of checks and balances.
  • They quash criticism and dissent.
  • They specifically target vulnerable or marginalized communities.
  • They work to corrupt elections.
  • They stoke violence.
Each bullet point comes with its own section, along with suggestions for journalists meant to influence their coverage. But the advice is all guided by the overarching question that animated the report: What’s politics as usual, and what’s not?.."

 
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They attempt to politicize independent institutions.
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Well the Democrats have already politicized most of American life. Schools must teach gender theory, the public must support celebration of homosexual conduct, my local transit agency has official signs on the trains saying “we drive in support of (fentanyl added wannabe handgun abortionist) George Floyd”
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  • They spread disinformation.
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Very common in today’s society, see repeated references to a fictitious “insurrection” or the bald faced lie that “Ukraine is a democracy”
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  • They aggrandize executive power at the expense of checks and balances.
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Barack “Pen and Phone” Obama
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  • They quash criticism and dissent.
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See arrest of Flynn, Navarro, Bannon etc on false or trumped up charges
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  • They specifically target vulnerable or marginalized communities.
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The de-industrialization of America is largely punishment of working class whites
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  • They work to corrupt elections.
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This doesn’t even require explanation, the Democrats absolutely use corruption to win elections
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  • They stoke violence.
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Like when the Senate Majority leader actually called for violence against Trump’s Supreme Court nominees and then a man was arrested outside Kavanaugh’s house while armed.
 
Road Kill said:
Don't know..Maybe its because you Liberals just cannot let go of this homophobe you have with Trump.
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What a completely ignorant post that butchers sensible English
 
yankintx said:
Eat, lie, bang a porn star, write a check

In that order
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If that’s what it takes to bring back 2.79 a gallon gas I’m ok with it
 
Mycroft said:
Go look at his previous campaign positions, identify what he wasn't able to accomplish because of a Congress that opposed him and then think of what he can do with a Congress that supports him.

That will answer all of your questions.

On the other hand, you can see what his updated campaign positions are if he decides to run again. You know he'll tell you.
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Typical Mycroft response: when backed into a corner where he is unable/unwilling to answer a question, he defers to generalities and being vague so he won't be forced into a position to defend that he may not be able to.

Mycroft: as other posters have asked, they want an idea/opinion from you on what Trump might or might not do that affects the current economic situation. His previous policies don't really address what is happening right now. Since, an idea/opinion is being asked of you, it's actually OK if you turn out to be wrong. Or you could turn out to be spot on about future policies he might go for to solve current problems.

Why don't you turn your ego off for a moment? Just straight up answer the question (and no, you haven't been answering questions directly), stop trying to project the fanciful way you see yourself here on the forum that makes us either roll our eyes or laugh at you, and for once give a thoughtful, detailed opinion on what you think might happen.
 
Ishm said:
I imagine a few of his more crazy supporters think that, but not 10's of millions of them. And to be fair, you can find similar on the far left, but they are not rabid Biden followers.
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Why are those "10's of millions" silent if they exist? AT this stage, if you are not vocally denouncing the Trump/GOP you have signed onto the coup and treason. There is just the Lincoln project, the two in the January 6th Committee and a very, very few Republicans raising concerns, the rest of them support trump and his coup.
 
Ishm said:
Actually I think way more center right than center left. I don't do the hero worship thing for anyone, so I really do want to look at policies, estimate their impact, estimate their 'achievability', consider the likelihood that the person promising something is up to the task, then work out what/who is worth supporting. I am also much more pragmatic than political. Means I am much more worried about measurable results than about political 'theology'.

I struggle to understand the blind support for Trump, who I consider delivered a mostly poor (average at best) performance previously. So what am I missing? What are people expecting from him that woukd deliver tangible benefits that someone else wouldn't deliver?
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Trump will go along with 90% of what the radical right wants him to do. Same as his first term. Trump doesn't have policies. His mind changes with the wind direction. His only calculations are based on what Trump can get out of it. He will be Mitch's puppet along with Putin's if he's still around, God save us.
 
post said:
...and the confiscation of personal firearms... Shhhh !

Link to archived image of this article, https://archive.ph/xeTDF
www.nytimes.com

How Journalists Wrestle With Covering Threats to Democracy (Published 2022)

A new report challenges news outlets to provide richer, more urgent coverage of the rise of authoritarian movements in the United States and abroad.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
June 10, 2022

"...In an interview, Dresden said she was driven by the conviction, backed by decades of research, that “authoritarianism doesn’t happen overnight.” Like a stalagmite, it develops from the slow drip of infringements on freedoms and breaches of longstanding democratic rules and traditions. That process is now well underway in the United States, she worries....Protect Democracy assembled a panel of academic luminaries for the project, including Sheri Berman, Larry Diamond, Timothy Snyder, Kim Lane Scheppele, Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt. The group also consulted editors at various news outlets, including The New York Times, to help gain insights into how newsrooms are approaching this task.

The panel reached a consensus on “seven basic tactics” authoritarian leaders and movements use to pursue and maintain power, which are listed verbatim below:

  • They attempt to politicize independent institutions.
  • They spread disinformation.
  • They aggrandize executive power at the expense of checks and balances.
  • They quash criticism and dissent.
  • They specifically target vulnerable or marginalized communities.
  • They work to corrupt elections.
  • They stoke violence.
Each bullet point comes with its own section, along with suggestions for journalists meant to influence their coverage. But the advice is all guided by the overarching question that animated the report: What’s politics as usual, and what’s not?.."

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What will Trump do in 2025​


Tee it up on the front nine?
 
hopefully he will be resting peacefully
 
Trump will not be re-elected. He will lose again.
 
Dayton3 said:
Ignoring the obvious. Nothing that happened or attempted on 1/6 would've made Trump president.
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So not the case. If Pence had decided to throw out votes from certain states, it could sent the decision to the House, where Trump could conceivably prevailed.
 
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