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What should DEM mayors and govs have done to STOP protests?

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According to Trump, the protests must be ended, with DOMINATION. That means, that all the people that are having a problem with being murdered by cop must shut the **** up. Those that dont trust cops, must SHUT UP. Those that are profiled and targeted, must SHUT UP.

Trump has told all those that dont like him or his people or his policies, you dont have a voice in this. And we are going to conspire to make the right wing retain power in perpetuity. We will deem all Democrat theory and intention as terrorist. And criminalize anything but what Trump tells America they are.

This will enrage all those that used to live in a democracy. They will no longer feel they have a stake in this country. Which is EXACTLY what Trump intended from the start.

And so I ask. Had the DEMOCRAT mayors and governors done what they are SUPPOSED to, according to the right wing, what would they have done to HANDLE the protestors?

I dont want blather, I want concrete actions.
 

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According to Trump, the protests must be ended, with DOMINATION. That means, that all the people that are having a problem with being murdered by cop must shut the **** up. Those that dont trust cops, must SHUT UP. Those that are profiled and targeted, must SHUT UP.

Trump has told all those that dont like him or his people or his policies, you dont have a voice in this. And we are going to conspire to make the right wing retain power in perpetuity. We will deem all Democrat theory and intention as terrorist. And criminalize anything but what Trump tells America they are.

This will enrage all those that used to live in a democracy. They will no longer feel they have a stake in this country. Which is EXACTLY what Trump intended from the start.

And so I ask. Had the DEMOCRAT mayors and governors done what they are SUPPOSED to, according to the right wing, what would they have done to HANDLE the protestors?

I dont want blather, I want concrete actions.

Do you mean the violence, or the actual peaceful protestors?

Because the violence is what the right has been against this whole time.
 

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According to Trump, the protests must be ended, with DOMINATION. That means, that all the people that are having a problem with being murdered by cop must shut the **** up. Those that dont trust cops, must SHUT UP. Those that are profiled and targeted, must SHUT UP.

Trump has told all those that dont like him or his people or his policies, you dont have a voice in this. And we are going to conspire to make the right wing retain power in perpetuity. We will deem all Democrat theory and intention as terrorist. And criminalize anything but what Trump tells America they are.

This will enrage all those that used to live in a democracy. They will no longer feel they have a stake in this country. Which is EXACTLY what Trump intended from the start.

And so I ask. Had the DEMOCRAT mayors and governors done what they are SUPPOSED to, according to the right wing, what would they have done to HANDLE the protestors?

I dont want blather, I want concrete actions.

Trump is right. To qualify as a civilization police officers must stop the violent from committing crimes.
 

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Do you mean the violence, or the actual peaceful protestors?

Because the violence is what the right has been against this whole time.

It is what it is. Now how do you right wingers intend to deal with it?
 

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It is what it is. Now how do you right wingers intend to deal with it?

Not really a right winger, but I would insist on having the mayors use the police to arrest and charge these offenders to get them out of the equation. With only the federal forces stepping in if they need to. Then, when all of the smoke has cleared. Initiate sweeping changes where they are needed. Police reform to allow for more accountability, without making them feel demonized, or tossed out with the trash. Allow them the right to defend themselves and put pressure on the media to have their facts straight before putting up such information. That would have people calling for the police officer's head.

The mayors and governors need to step in. Admit that the riots, no matter how small, or how large. Need to be stopped and order needs to be restored. This is all playing into Trump's favor anyway, so I don't see why the democrats are dragging their feet here and actively defending the rioters elsewhere.

They've been releasing rioters with no charges and have even been trying to pass a bill that would make attacking an officer into a misdemeanor. This honestly can't go on for much longer. Because a form of critical mass will be reached eventually and we've already gotten a total of 32 dead at this point.
 

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Not really a right winger, but I would insist on having the mayors use the police to arrest and charge these offenders to get them out of the equation. With only the federal forces stepping in if they need to. Then, when all of the smoke has cleared. Initiate sweeping changes where they are needed. Police reform to allow for more accountability, without making them feel demonized, or tossed out with the trash. Allow them the right to defend themselves and put pressure on the media to have their facts straight before putting up such information. That would have people calling for the police officer's head.

The mayors and governors need to step in. Admit that the riots, no matter how small, or how large. Need to be stopped and order needs to be restored. This is all playing into Trump's favor anyway, so I don't see why the democrats are dragging their feet here and actively defending the rioters elsewhere.

They've been releasing rioters with no charges and have even been trying to pass a bill that would make attacking an officer into a misdemeanor. This honestly can't go on for much longer. Because a form of critical mass will be reached eventually and we've already gotten a total of 32 dead at this point.

Except that you are forgetting that the Democratic Party not only instigating the riots and violence, they continue to support it. Both BLM and ANTIFA are domestic terrorist organizations under 18 U.S. Code § 2331(5). Democrat Mayors and Governors are harboring/concealing terrorists and need to be charged under federal law. Since the Democratic Party is supporting and sponsoring these terrorist organizations under Public Law 107-40, the Democratic Party leadership needs to be imprisoned in GITMO, with the assets of the Democratic Party seized, and the terrorist organization disbanded, just like ISIS, al Qaeda, and other anti-human terrorist filth.
 

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Except that you are forgetting that the Democratic Party not only instigating the riots and violence, they continue to support it. Both BLM and ANTIFA are domestic terrorist organizations under 18 U.S. Code § 2331(5). Democrat Mayors and Governors are harboring/concealing terrorists and need to be charged under federal law. Since the Democratic Party is supporting and sponsoring these terrorist organizations under Public Law 107-40, the Democratic Party leadership needs to be imprisoned in GITMO, with the assets of the Democratic Party seized, and the terrorist organization disbanded, just like ISIS, al Qaeda, and other anti-human terrorist filth.

While I do agree with the spirit of your argument. You'll be hard pressed to find any official in office to set that precedent, who isn't wholly biased against the GOP. Or is too scared of the reaction that it would cause, to do so.

This is the age that you can be doxed by someone with a smartphone and people actually show up to your house to threaten you, your spouse, or your children. Much the same happened with Tucker Carlson and he's just a right wing commenter. A federal judge on something this important, would have to take serious steps to be protected.
 

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Not really a right winger, but I would insist on having the mayors use the police to arrest and charge these offenders to get them out of the equation. With only the federal forces stepping in if they need to. Then, when all of the smoke has cleared. Initiate sweeping changes where they are needed. Police reform to allow for more accountability, without making them feel demonized, or tossed out with the trash. Allow them the right to defend themselves and put pressure on the media to have their facts straight before putting up such information. That would have people calling for the police officer's head.

The mayors and governors need to step in. Admit that the riots, no matter how small, or how large. Need to be stopped and order needs to be restored. This is all playing into Trump's favor anyway, so I don't see why the democrats are dragging their feet here and actively defending the rioters elsewhere.

They've been releasing rioters with no charges and have even been trying to pass a bill that would make attacking an officer into a misdemeanor. This honestly can't go on for much longer. Because a form of critical mass will be reached eventually and we've already gotten a total of 32 dead at this point.

So, scrap the con? Conflate all protesters to terrorist? JUSt like you right wingers refuse to admit?
 

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While I do agree with the spirit of your argument. You'll be hard pressed to find any official in office to set that precedent, who isn't wholly biased against the GOP. Or is too scared of the reaction that it would cause, to do so.

This is the age that you can be doxed by someone with a smartphone and people actually show up to your house to threaten you, your spouse, or your children. Much the same happened with Tucker Carlson and he's just a right wing commenter. A federal judge on something this important, would have to take serious steps to be protected.

The very first thing Trump should have done once the violence began, with the Democrat Mayors and Governors supporting the violence, is to deploy the military. Public Law 107-40 (a.k.a. "War Against Terrorism") is still in effect, and using violence and violating the law as a form of "political speech" is how we define terrorism.

Trump already has congressional approval to use military force "against those nations, organizations, or persons" the President deems to be a terrorist threat. And that certainly counts the domestic terrorists in Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, and Madison.
 
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So, scrap the con? Conflate all protesters to terrorist? JUSt like you right wingers refuse to admit?
LOL....it is so funny watching obo fluffing glitch's frothing, over the top "imprison the Dems" screed, whut a circle j!
 

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The very first thing Trump should have done once the violence began, with the Democrat Mayors and Governors supporting the violence, is to deploy the military. Public Law 107-40 (a.k.a. "War Against Terrorism") is still in effect, and using violence and violating the law as a form of "political speech" is how we define terrorism.

Trump already has congressional approval to use military force "against those nations, organizations, or persons" the President deems to be terrorists. And that certainly counts the domestic terrorists in Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, and Madison.

If you would like to see large military forces stop unlawful protests, you can move to China or Russia. A much better approach is for President Trump to work with mayors and governors to figure out how much force is needed, where to apply it, and how to apply it to prevent giving the impression that police force was increased beyond reason. The National Guard is meant to be used in these situations for that reason because they have a better understanding of the cities' dynamics.
 

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If you would like to see large military forces stop unlawful protests, you can move to China or Russia. A much better approach is for President Trump to work with mayors and governors to figure out how much force is needed, where to apply it, and how to apply it to prevent giving the impression that police force was increased. The National Guard is meant to be used in these situations for that reason because they have more understanding of the cities' dynamics.

You are forgetting. The Democrat Mayors and Governors were complicit with the terrorists. They are supporting the acts of violence by telling law enforcement to stand down. That is also a violation of federal law: 18 U.S. Code § 2339 (Harboring/Concealing terrorists).

The National Guard are week-end warriors and have no real training. They are merely for show to make the self-deluded "feel" safe. Trump needs to deploy the regular Marine Corps and/or Army and begin rounding up these Democrat terrorist filth, including those Democrat Mayors and Governors providing support.
 

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Do you mean the violence, or the actual peaceful protestors?

Because the violence is what the right has been against this whole time.

You do know that many on the right don't see a difference and this actually pushed by trump himself.
 

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Yeah, and we see how they want to "stop the violence", by shooting protesters vigilant-y style.

Since you leftists want to abolish all law enforcement you are going to end up with vigilante justice whether you like it or not, and guess who owns the vast majority of the firearms? Maybe you should have thought it through before demanding that the police be abolished.
 

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So, scrap the con? Conflate all protesters to terrorist? JUSt like you right wingers refuse to admit?
No one is saying that and it's situated there in the 1st amendment. "To peaceably assemble"
By destroying property and causing bodily harm, these people have already broken a very basic law.

The constitution does not need to the scrapped and those on the right are not trying to have all protestors be recognized as terrorist.
 

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Since you leftists want to abolish all law enforcement you are going to end up with vigilante justice whether you like it or not, and guess who owns the vast majority of the firearms? Maybe you should have thought it through before demanding that the police be abolished.
Name the Democrat Leaders that want the police abolished.
 

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The very first thing Trump should have done once the violence began, with the Democrat Mayors and Governors supporting the violence, is to deploy the military. Public Law 107-40 (a.k.a. "War Against Terrorism") is still in effect, and using violence and violating the law as a form of "political speech" is how we define terrorism.

Trump already has congressional approval to use military force "against those nations, organizations, or persons" the President deems to be a terrorist threat. And that certainly counts the domestic terrorists in Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, and Madison.

Once again, a more stable precedent would need to be set and I don't think anyone in the media, or in political power. Would not jump at the chance to call Trump anything and everything in the book. Because even when the rioters started to damage federal property and he sent in agents. They took that chance to call him a fascist dictator. Even though he was well within his power to do as such.

You're going to have the media framing it in every way they can. To make Trump appear to be the violent aggressor, with only a few stations being completely truthful on the matter. The harmful propaganda alone would cause more than enough trouble for Trump.
 

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No one is saying that and it's situated there in the 1st amendment. "To peaceably assemble".... these people have already broken a very basic law.
Good grief. The 1st describes a protected RIGHT, you do understand this basic point.....yes? Or were you sick that day?
 

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No one is saying that and it's situated there in the 1st amendment. "To peaceably assemble"
By destroying property and causing bodily harm, these people have already broken a very basic law.

The constitution does not need to the scrapped and those on the right are not trying to have all protestors be recognized as terrorist.
The Protestors are not the ones destroying property, those are the small group of rioters. Once again learn the difference.

Ummm, the right wants to label BLM as a terrorist organization, you really need to read up on the topic before making claims.
 

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Once again, a more stable precedent would need to be set and I don't think anyone in the media, or in political power. Would not jump at the chance to call Trump anything and everything in the book. Because even when the rioters started to damage federal property and he sent in agents. They took that chance to call him a fascist dictator. Even though he was well within his power to do as such.

You're going to have the media framing it in every way they can. To make Trump appear to be the violent aggressor, with only a few stations being completely truthful on the matter. The harmful propaganda alone would cause more than enough trouble for Trump.

You can't be concerned what the propagandists say, because they are going to say it regardless of what he does. That is what propagandists do. Do you think they care about reality, facts, or even the law? They have only one motivation, and that is to get rid of Trump. They will say and do anything to accomplish that end, as Pelosi's illegal impeachment demonstrated. So caring what the anti-American leftist propagandists have to say should be the least of Trump's concern.

With regard to precedent, Hoover established that in 1932 by using the Army against the Bonus Marchers in DC, which Eisenhower reinforced with the 101st Airborne Division in 1957 in Little Rock, Arkansas. The President has the authority to use military force to enforce federal law, if necessary. Public Law 107-40 also gives the President congressional approval to use military force against those the President deems to be terrorists or terrorist organizations. Trump has the constitutional and lawful authority, and the precedent has already been established, so it becomes a question of whether or not Trump will "faithfully execute the office of President" as his oath requires.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the very first precedent of the President using military force to enforce federal law: The Whiskey Rebellion of 1791, when President George Washington personally took command of 13,000 militia troops provided by Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.
 
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According to Trump, the protests must be ended, with DOMINATION. That means, that all the people that are having a problem with being murdered by cop must shut the **** up. Those that dont trust cops, must SHUT UP. Those that are profiled and targeted, must SHUT UP.

Trump has told all those that dont like him or his people or his policies, you dont have a voice in this. And we are going to conspire to make the right wing retain power in perpetuity. We will deem all Democrat theory and intention as terrorist. And criminalize anything but what Trump tells America they are.

This will enrage all those that used to live in a democracy. They will no longer feel they have a stake in this country. Which is EXACTLY what Trump intended from the start.

And so I ask. Had the DEMOCRAT mayors and governors done what they are SUPPOSED to, according to the right wing, what would they have done to HANDLE the protestors?

I dont want blather, I want concrete actions.

Immediately deployed LEO's and National Gaurd to meet the violence with violence.
 

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The Protestors are not the ones destroying property, those are the small group of rioters. Once again learn the difference.

Ummm, the right wants to label BLM as a terrorist organization, you really need to read up on the topic before making claims.

Still telling that lie? :lamo
 

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You can't be concerned what the propagandists say, because they are going to say it regardless of what he does. That is what propagandists do. Do you think they care about reality, facts, or even the law? They have only one motivation, and that is to get rid of Trump. They will say and do anything to accomplish that end, as Pelosi's illegal impeachment demonstrated. So caring what the anti-American leftist propagandists have to say should be the least of Trump's concern.

With regard to precedent, Hoover established that in 1932 by using the Army against the Bonus Marchers in DC, which Eisenhower reinforced with the 101st Airborne Division in 1957 in Little Rock, Arkansas. The President has the authority to use military force to enforce federal law, if necessary. Public Law 107-40 also gives the President congressional approval to use military force against those the President deems to be terrorists or terrorist organizations. Trump has the constitutional and lawful authority, and the precedent has already been established, so it becomes a question of whether or not Trump will "faithfully execute the office of President" as his oath requires.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the very first precedent of the President using military force to enforce federal law: The Whiskey Rebellion of 1791, when President George Washington personally took command of 13,000 militia troops provided by Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.

Unfortunately, everyone on the left has fought Trump on designating them as such for a long time now. The problem being is that a group like Antifa, is mostly a disconnected collection of cells that will act independently of one another. Now for BLM, you'd have a much easier time in doing so. Seeing as they do have a group formation and they have higher representatives.
 
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