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what should be done about prostitution?

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What should be done about prostitution?


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This is an excerpt article from a local shelter for people escaping prositution, and provides counseling for former prostitutes.

How Prostitution Works
WHERE THE WORKERS COME FROM

The sex industry ultimately is about power. This is best demonstrated by the care with which the industry takes to ensure that those it uses are powerless. The predators are neither irrational nor stupid. They watch carefully for a kind of "victim profile," and avoid anyone who may be uncontrollable or dangerous.

They focus on young people coming out of families that are abusive, disorganized, or non-existent. One fundamental function of the family is protection of its members, especially its children. The family also is a team, and all players must do their jobs. If a member is lost or disabled, others in the extended family or community must step in to carry on. When one or more adults in a family are absent, addicted, mentally ill, or severely demoralized, the children are in danger.

When the family is poor, or part of a devalued minority group, and opportunities for education and good jobs are limited, some members of those families may be willing to take risks. If the young people are being terrorized, beaten, or sexually abused by the very people who should be protecting them, many are going to take their chances on the street. For some, nude dancing or even prostitution may look better than no job at all.

If they are under age, have no address, or cannot afford to have their parents involved, most social service agencies will not help them. Children are still treated as some adults' property.

The juvenile system has little interest in noncriminal runaways or "throwaways." There are age requirements for normal jobs, usually between 14 and 18 years of age. The very young are practically forced into the sex industry, even before the pimps and johns get involved. They may have to do prostitution from age 12 or 14, until they turn 18, and can get a "better job" such as nude dancing.

There are three general patterns for "breaking" someone into prostitution.

In slave taking, a young male predator "befriends" a victim long enough to be sure she is not dangerous herself, nor protected by anyone who is. He manipulates her into a situation where she can be kidnapped and held in isolation in a place the slaver and his friends control. Over a prolonged period, she is terrorized, tortured, and gang raped. She is threatened with her own death, and that of anyone she loves.

Once she is convinced that her only chance of survival is to do exactly as she is told, she is "turned out." Her first "trick" may in fact be a member of the prostitution organization, set up to make sure she performs as directed. After she has been properly "seasoned," she is put to work for her captors, or sold to another pimp.

The domestic violence transition targets young people coming out of abusive homes who are emotionally needy, and have no real idea of what a normal love relationship looks like. They become involved with a "boyfriend" who initially treats them better than they have ever experienced before. The boyfriend gradually becomes extremely controlling, and eventually violent. He introduces commercial sex in terms of his pressing need for money, and "If you love me, you will do this." He quickly transitions from "just this once" into "You are just a whore, my whore!" and requiring daily prostitution. He continues controlling the victim with alternating emotional manipulation and explosive violence, while living on her earnings, for as long as she lasts.

The "grooming" process is used by older and more sophisticated predators, and is especially used on younger children. These perpetrators become adept at identifying abused, neglected, and depressed children, and "befriending" them. They develop a "special" relationship, one that isolates the child from others, and makes the child feel indebted to the groomer.

Slowly, resistance is broken down, using gifts, money, alcohol, drugs, and pornography. In the sex industry, pornography is not only a profitable product, it also is a working tool.

They engage the child in progressively more direct sex, and begin to merge the abuse into the child's identity: "You want this", "You like this", "You make it happen", "Now you are dirty, perverted, queer". These predators often are only interested in children of a specific age or appearance. When they develop beyond that, the kids may be passed off to pedophiles interested in older children. Being suddenly "dumped" for no understandable reason often is very painful for the child.

Over a lifetime these predators may victimize an incredibly large number of children. The emotional damage they do leaves a child even more isolated and vulnerable to further involvement in the sex industry.

and a few statistics for kicks:

85% of prostitutes are raped by pimps. (Council on Prostitution Alternatives, Portland, 1994)

78% of 55 women who sought help from the Council for Prostitution Alternatives in 1991 reported being raped an average of 16 times a year by pimps, and were raped 33 times a year by johns. (Susan Kay Hunter, Council for Prostitution Alternatives Annual Report, 1991, Portland, Oregon)

83% of prostitutes are victims of assault with a weapon. (National Coalition Against Sexual Assault)

In 1993, 42% of women arrested in Seattle on prostitution-related charges were convicted, while 8% of men arrested in Seattle on prostitution-related charges were convicted. (Seattle Women's Commission, 1995, "Project to Address the Legal, Political, and Service Barriers Facing Women in the Sex Industry" Seattle, Washington.

The average age of entry into prostitution is 13 years (M.H. Silbert and A.M. Pines, 1982, "Victimization of street prostitutes, Victimology: An International Journal, 7: 122-133)
 
It should be legalized so it can be regulated. They don’t have those problems in the Netherlands.
 
what should be done about prostitution?

It should be legalized, unionized, and regulated by the State.
And those who sexually assault others should be penalized to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of what profession the victim happens to be employed in.
 
It should be legalized so it can be regulated. They don’t have those problems in the Netherlands.

Look, we posted the exact same thing, at the exact same time (4:06).

Great minds think alike? :cheers:
 
Make it legal or like in Sweden punish the punters instead of the women. Most prostitutes are in the game because they like it, unfortunately drugs is a big factor. These girls need help not punishment.
 
if we were to regulate prostitution, here are a few suggestions:

all prostitutes must have a license. buying from an unlicensed prostitute would be a crime, but it would not be a crime for an unlicensed prostitute to sell.

in order to get and keep the license the prostitute must:

be 18 years old and have graduated HS or have a GED.
not live with anyone that employs them or with a coworker
pass a drug screening every 6 months
pass an HIV test every month
pass a screening for other STDs every 3 months
be evaluated for mental health annually
pass an exam testing for knowledge of birth control and STDs

all johns would be required to use condoms.
 
The problems inherent with prostitution will be resolved with decriminalization, just like with the drug war. (Violence, Coercion, People getting sick, Bad men getting power/money, etc..)
 
It should be legalized, unionized, and regulated by the State.
And those who sexually assault others should be penalized to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of what profession the victim happens to be employed in.
Why unionized? If a sex worker chooses to work independent of unions why should s/he be suppressed? Unions are insidious to societal welfare and only reduces competition while raising prices for the customer.
 
Legalize and regulate. We really need to get over the victemless crime laws and remember that not eveyone shares our personal morality. Plus, regulation would mke it a safer industry.
 
Legalize and regulate. We really need to get over the victemless crime laws and remember that not eveyone shares our personal morality. Plus, regulation would mke it a safer industry.
That's pretty much the way I feel about the subject.
 
If you don't have a costomer base, you don't have a buisness.

Obviously, but do you really think that walking up to a john and telling him to save it for marriage is going to make any difference? How exactly do you plan on getting a customer to follow your advice?

"Keep it in your pants until your engaged or married to her" is not a practical solution, it's an ideology.
 
Make it legal or like in Sweden punish the punters instead of the women. Most prostitutes are in the game because they like it, unfortunately drugs is a big factor. These girls need help not punishment.
got alink to back that up?

the ho's at the Bunny Ranch like it
the whore on the corner doesn't, atleast not the majority of them
they are there out of slavery
slavery to drugs
slavery to human smuggling
slavery due to horrendous upbringing
slavery due to families turning their back on their child(ren) because they are gay

I would bet that 90% of ho's are not in the business because they like it
and the statistics provided in the OP negate what you state
unless you think they like being raped? :roll:
 
Obviously, but do you really think that walking up to a john and telling him to save it for marriage is going to make any difference? How exactly do you plan on getting a customer to follow your advice?

"Keep it in your pants until your engaged or married to her" is not a practical solution, it's an ideology.

A person not buying the service of a prostitute is not a practical solution?

If the collective ethical standard of society looked down on such a thing, that would reduce its frequency, sure.

I'm sure that the standard motto of moral relativism will shine through in the end:

No one's forcing you to ______, so if you don't like _______, don't _______.

It's like illegal immigration; if you want to stop it you lay heavy penalties on the businesses that higher them, not the immigrant.

It's like abortion; if you want to stop abortion then you lay heavy penalties on the physician, not the mother.

Regarding an individual, the John should keep it in his pants just as an immigrant should come into the country legally and a mother should keep her child alive.

Regarding a population, the John should be heavily punished just as a business who employs illegals or a physician who performs abortions.

At least people are now seeking to get money for what they so often give away for free. I mean, you might as well get paid for it right?
 
At least people are now seeking to get money for what they so often give away for free. I mean, you might as well get paid for it right?

I have yet to meet a woman who gave it away for free
you always pay
one way or another..........

and you dont pay a prostitute for sex
you pay her leave after you are done
 
got alink to back that up?

the ho's at the Bunny Ranch like it
the whore on the corner doesn't, atleast not the majority of them
they are there out of slavery
slavery to drugs
slavery to human smuggling
slavery due to horrendous upbringing
slavery due to families turning their back on their child(ren) because they are gay

I would bet that 90% of ho's are not in the business because they like it
and the statistics provided in the OP negate what you state
unless you think they like being raped? :roll:

I'm waiting for the feminists to start claiming that the legalization of prostitution is a pro-woman's health issue.
 
I have yet to meet a woman who gave it away for free
you always pay
one way or another..........

and you dont pay a prostitute for sex
you pay her leave after you are done

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
 
It's like illegal immigration; if you want to stop it you lay heavy penalties on the businesses that higher them, not the immigrant.

It's like abortion; if you want to stop abortion then you lay heavy penalties on the physician, not the mother.

Regarding an individual, the John should keep it in his pants just as an immigrant should come into the country legally and a mother should keep her child alive.

Regarding a population, the John should be heavily punished just as a business who employs illegals or a physician who performs abortions.

that answers my question.
 
I have yet to meet a woman who gave it away for free
you always pay
one way or another..........

and you dont pay a prostitute for sex
you pay her leave after you are done

if basic decency and respect is paying for sex, then yes, you always pay.

if you're too cheap to treat your partner like a human being, you give them (or their pimp) cash.
 
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