I know Polgara, I was being facetious based upon the suggestion that a comparative handful of separatists asked the West to help them overthrow Gaddafi. Never mind that UNR 1973 didn't authorize that.
Good evening to you :2wave:
Don't take any laxatives. There won't be anything left of you.
With all DUE respect, under the law, which you seem to claim to know a lot about, if someone accuses someone of being a "liar" tehy need to document that with proof, it's called "onus" of the accuser.
No where have I ever seen any credible evidence that Snowden "lied" as he never said anything, he merely released documents which should have been public information in the first place.
So, if you have anything credible please present it after reading rule #10. If not, please be so kind as to close the pie hole and allow this debate to get back to where it was intended.
have a wonderful day.
Once again, with disregard to your antagonistic tone, spewing on and on proves nothing. If you have any such evidence that these accusations you make are true, please present them under rule #10. Simply railing at unmentioned and unreferenced periodicals provides nothing positive except for those who need attention all the time.
And your wrong again, a 50/50 split is not "his people", that's half his people. But good day Hays, I knew you couldn't be trusted for honesty in this.
NATO expansion eastward.
Taking Fearandloathing's wise suggestion, more to the point of the US's involvement in Ukraine.
Kissinger's take on the Ukraine crisis.
Henry Kissinger’s Perspective on the Ukrainian Crisis | Defusing the Nuclear Threat
Oil, gas and nuclear power companies make up the top group lobbying on Ukraine, records show. Along with Exxon Mobil, Chevron Corp., Anadarko Petroleum Corporation, Westinghouse Electric Co., and the Nuclear Energy Institute also filed first-quarter lobbying reports that cover Ukraine.
Ukraine Crisis Drives a Quiet Lobbying Boom in U.S. - Businessweek
...in violation of both the Ukrainian and Crimean Constitutions,
A) The only reason why he went with Russia is because as he was about to sign the agreement Russia waged an economic war against the Ukraine.
B) It was a plurality if not a majority who supported entrance into the EU:
Public opinion about Euromaidan
According to December 2013 polls (by three different pollsters) between 45% and 50% of Ukrainians supported Euromaidan, while between 42% and 50% opposed it.[127][128][129] The biggest support for the protest can be found in Kiev (about 75%) and western Ukraine (more than 80%).[127][130] Among Euromaidan protesters, 55% are from the west of the country, with 24% from central Ukraine and 21% from the east.[131]
In a poll taken on 7–8 December, 73% of protesters had committed to continue protesting in Kiev as long as needed until their demands are fulfilled.[6] This number has increased to 82% as of 3 February 2014.[131] Polls also show that the nation is divided in age: while majority of young people are pro-EU, older generations (50 and above) more often prefer the Customs Union of Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Russia.[132] More than 41% of protesters are ready to take part in the seizure of administrative buildings as of February, compared to 13 and 19 percent during polls on 10 and 20 December 2013. At the same time, more than 50 percent are ready to take part in the creation of independent military units, compared to 15 and 21 percent during the past studies, respectively.[131]
Headquarters of the Euromaidan. At the front entrance there is a portrait of Stepan Bandera - fighter for the independence of Ukraine.
According to a January poll, 45% of Ukrainians supported the protests, and 48% of Ukrainians disapproved of Euromaidan.[133]
In a March poll, 57% of Ukrainians said they supported the Euromaidan protests.[134]
Public opinion about joining the EU
According to an August 2013 study by a Donetsk company, Research & Branding Group,[135] 49% of Ukrainians supported signing the Association Agreement, while 31% opposed it and the rest had not decided yet. However, in a December poll by the same company, only 30% claimed that terms of the Association agreement would be beneficial for the Ukrainian economy, while 39% said they were unfavourable for Ukraine. In the same poll, only 30% said the opposition would be able to stabilise the society and govern the country well, if coming to power, while 37% disagreed.[136]
Authors of the GfK Ukraine poll conducted 2–15 October 2013 claim that 45% of respondents believed Ukraine should sign an Association Agreement with the EU, whereas only 14% favoured joining the Customs Union of Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Russia, and 15% preferred non-alignment. Full text of the EU-related question asked by GfK reads, "Should Ukraine sign the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement, and, in the future, become an EU member?"[137][138]
Another poll conducted in November by IFAK Ukraine for DW-Trend showed 58% of Ukrainians supporting the country's entry into the European Union.[139] On the other hand a November 2013 poll by Kyiv International Institute of Sociology showed 39% supporting the country's entry into the European Union and 37% supporting Ukraine's accession to the Customs Union of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Russia.[140]
Kyiv on 12 December: The Christmas tree on Independence square decorated by posters erected by demonstrators
Euromaidan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Furthermore; the reason why opposition likely existed at all were the lies regarding the signing of the agreement proliferated by Russian propagandists.
Yes because an EU associate agreement = NATO. Where do you people come up with this nonsense?
It was Russia that started all of this first with economic warfare in order to prevent the Ukraine's right to self determination which prompted peaceful protests supported by the majority of Ukrainians which resulted in a Russian puppet at the direct behest of Putin, sending in his jack booted thugs to attack and murder the protesters which resulted in his impeachment followed by his treasonous self imposed exile to Russian occupied territory, then what happened next is Russia invaded, occupied, installed an occupation government with Spec Ops holding AKs and rocket launchers in the Crimean parliamentary building during the swearing in of a new Crimean "prime minister" and this was followed by the outright illegal annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory by the Russian Federation through a fraudulent and illegal referendum, in which only two options were offered cessation or annexation rather than maintaining the status quo and which did not allow for the majority of Ukrainians to participate in direct violation of both the Ukrainian and Crimean Constitutions,
There's been plenty of propaganda to go around, you serving some up yourself. You quoted the same poll that I have before which shows a 50/50 split
You criticise Russia claiming they began an economic war while the US is waging an economic war on Russia presently.
China Backs Russia on Ukraine
Chinese foreign ministry spokesman on Ukraine,
However, Qin also cryptically said that “there are reasons for why the situation in Ukraine is what it is today.” Qin didn’t go into detail about what those reasons might be, but Chinese media sources offered some suggestions. A Xinhua commentary argued that the West’s “biased mediation has polarized Ukraine and only made things worse in the country.” The article said that the West should work together with Russia to find a solution, and “stop trying to exclude Russia from the political crisis they failed to mediate.”
Further, the Xinhua commentary had no criticism for Russia’s decision to send troops to Crimea. “It is quite understandable when Putin said his country retained the right to protect its interests and Russian-speakers living in Ukraine,” the commentary said. Rather than opposing the move, the West should “respect Russia’s unique role in mapping out the future of Ukraine.”
China Backs Russia on Ukraine | The Diplomat
India Backs Russia's "Legitimate Interests" In Ukraine
India Backs Russia's "Legitimate Interests" In Ukraine | Zero Hedge
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